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This is exactly the first thing I thought of as well.

Is it really universal if there are three different ones? Both of which have been pretty successful in their EV sales in Nissan and Tesla..

That and to get a good universal plug going instead of each company having their own.

Not only do you get almost 30%(16mpg vs 22mpg) better fuel economy in the GLE, I would wager money that it's quicker than grampy's mobile. If you so choose(because there's an option) the GLE450 you get 21mpg combined. That's what is called a "Win, Win".

That 4.6 that makes 301hp also requires 91 octane. What a joke of a vehicle. Do you want horsepower?!? Do you want torque?!? Do you want remotely "okay" fuel economy?!? YOU GET NONE OF THOSE AND YOU GET THE LUXURY OF PAYING AN EXTRA $0.60/GALLON, TOO!

I guess everything new they're pumping out must be unreliable.. Lexus/Toyota couldn't possibly make a replacement as reliable.

I'm pretty sure that stuff can be disabled without any fuse removal.. At least they can on my MKC.. I'd only assume everybody would make that stuff disable-able..

People buying them obviously don't care just like GX owners don't care about anything about their vehicle, just reliability, apparently.

It is a "pretty dang good" off-roader. It is difficult to say it is a real off-roader when it is missing a locking rear diff(even the 4Runner TRD Pro and Land Cruiser are missing one...). There is no doubt they are a very good platform to build off of for off-roading. I've actually been following TFL and they're TRD Pro-ing a Land Cruiser. The guys can be annoying but I enjoy most of their content...

Such hypocrites.. Everybody here will ask for more power from a V8 that only puts out 300 ponies until that works for your personal narrative against smk. Everybody knows the combo of V8 + 300hp + 15/18mpg is dated as all hell. Those are literally pre-recession kind of numbers. It only has 64.7 cubic of space behind the driver.. A Chevy Equinox has 63.5 cubic feet of volume behind the driver's row. It better be reliable because it does literally nothing else very well or even adequate for the price they're selling for.

That's one thing that gets looked past with cars that have functional rear wings that create actual down force.. You have to be getting after it for any benefit. At regular speeds and even interstate speeds there's little to no benefit. Your real down force occurs past 100mph but then again even a minimal amount is helpful when on a track.

I don't think I've seen a 4-banger CUV with drilled and/or slotted rotors save for maybe things like a Mecan.

I'm sorry, Sweetie. Please forgive me. To quote the great surreal1272, " Don't tell me what to do." Sure do.

You have actual specific evidence that the owners were flushing transmissions, replacing shocks and struts, flushing cooling system, every 50k... like it is in those old manuals? Then not last 100k miles? I'm sorry but it is impossible to believe that.

Choosing your own categories to discredit another vehicle.. Value retention becomes discredited if it is low volume and has higher operating costs. What is the cost of ownership difference? What in the fck is "santanderconsumerusa.com" as a source? Over what span?

That would be any vehicle. It's impressive when the regular maintenance is getting skipped or pushed back tens of thousands of miles.

I'm just over here doing maths providing information. Numbers don't lie.

All of those brand new vehicles really get to show how well their value is retained 10-15 years down the road.. rEtAiNeD vAlUe

2007 GX $12,000/$46,000 = 26.1% retained value G500 $30,000/$84,000 = 35.7% retained value It doesn't have its scarcity simply to hold its value. At least until the brand new 2019's, it was still hand built. Mercedes isn't selling them at a low volume so their customers can have a slightly higher resale value. I've never heard of that before on a non-limited run vehicle.

Agree to disagree. An 8-12k mid 2000's GX hasn't held its value any better than a G Wagen.

I 100% agree. I wasn't bringing up the G Wagen though...

It might have dropped a lot in that 4-year span but they seem to hold their value pretty well. There are plenty of examples of 80-150k+ mile examples of the early-mid 2000's G500's still asking $30-40k. FWIW, 115k was the MSRP in 2015 and there aren't really options on a G Wagen. It's either a 550 or an AMG so it's roughly a 35% loss. I think the only options are exterior and interior colors. Yeah the G Wagen is actually kind of small to today's SUV standards. Personally, I think it is about perfectly sized.

Isn't the GLE, X5 and Q7 about as direct of competitors as they get?

+1 I've had it twice and I don't hate it but I don't love it. It's overpriced for how it tastes, imo.