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Fantastic month for GM!

Hatches just plain rock in my world. I just hate that there is a premium for them over their sedan stable mates. Honestly, all I wanted was a mk7 Golf but there are very few(way more GTIs to be found which I thought was off. I'm assuming a very large chunk of Golf sales were TDIs) and half of the handful I've found are 2 door, which I don't want. Edit: Oh, or they are the station wagon version...which I also don't want. I'd take an Alltrack but those are only 2017's and there aren't used ones out yet.

I wish I knew other companies package levels like I do Ford and GM.. like I know I want a Titanium Ford or an LTZ Chevy.. It looks like EX-L is Honda's top package but it also seems like it hasn't been that way for too long. I'll check'm out. Those are hard to find.. But it does sound almost perfect with the power, luxury, and MANUAL for that kind of car. Room isn't crazy important but I think I would like a hatch for the versatility of being able to lay the back seats down and then basically having a little CUV again.

Reasoning? Is it anything other than the DCT?

I'll give them a shot. I'm not opposed to anything yet. Their looks are "okay" in my books but not much that I'm looking at really strikes me as attractive other than an ATS or GTI.

@FordCosworth ST is either out of my "cheaper" price range(or too high of miles) or if I'm spending 20k I'd be in a mk7 GTI. @dfelt I've only heard atrocious things about the Focus's transmission and that is the ONLY real reason I've been avoiding it. @ykX Yeah, no shet. I really like the look and design of the Mazda3 and the size and hatch are spot on for what I want/feel like I need.

Maybe it is just my area but I can't find a '14+(current gen) for shet. That was originally one of my top choices because I love Mazda's styling and they're sporty-ish for an economy car but there just isn't anything really available in my area of the current gen and I am looking more fully loaded. There are a couple " i Sport " or " I Touring" available but they're pretty stripped down or brand new and I'm just not taking the depreciation hit of a brand new vehicle.

..I know it would be a great freakin' driver's car but the lack of space if/when I'm a homeowner is when there becomes a problem because the backseat and trunk are..small. I know I'm also looking at small cars but they're cheaper(less room for depreciation) and/or hatchbacks that have great utility.

Well... Their insurance company checked out the Escape last week and did indeed total her out, as expected. They offered me $18,700 for the car + $1,215 for taxes + $120 for registration and plate transfer = $20,040 for my Escape. I owe $9,243.xx. Which is honestly way more than I expected from an insurance company. I expected them to really put it to me but maybe because I'm the innocent party they just want to make peace with me and maintain their good name because they have been really nice and open with me this whole time. I'm all sorts of torn on what I want to get.. When I picked up my POS Yaris rental last Wednesday in O'Fallon, IL I stopped at the Mazda dealer and drove a CX-5 and the VW dealer to just drive a mk7 GTI. I loved them both.. But the more I think about it the more I think I will buy something cheap, own it either immediately or within the year(really small loan). With that.. I've been pondering the ideas of Cruze LTZs and Fiesta Titaniums. Spending in the 12-15k range and even less if I find a hella deal. I know that I still want options/features in the vehicle which is why I'm looking at LTZ/Titaniums and I'm afraid that a Fiesta will be too small and I will get sick of it. I came across the idea of smaller, fuel efficient, and owing it because I'm looking at houses and I don't make a ton of money and going from my Escape payments to either of these and owing them will save me around $350/month(275 payment). Also paying in that range they've also depreciated a large chunk already so that's a good thing to get that out of the way... But then I also see that there is an ATS 2.0T AWD Performance for $22,300 with miles under 30,000 and I kind of want that too..

Are any of those companies other than Porsche, Audi, and Mercedes making any money? They can't sustain what they're doing if they don't change because of CAFE. Ford GT? Not trying? It'll run circles around anything on any Mercedes lot.

Except the KERS system in the LaFerrari. And rules and regulations constantly changed in F1 that it is not the same engine. And if so, it'll be a 6cyl hyper car? Sounds badass.. I can't wait to pilot a car that needs 15,000rpm to move. Just kidding, I'd still prefer a GM 6.2 that has this thing called TORQUE.

Best. Argument. Ever. "Wait till XXX comes out. It'll be the bestest."

Give us some scientific evidence that makes them "better" because that's a realative term. Blah blah blah. All I read was "they don't have $h! yet to compete in the performance game with GM's V Series". I couldn't find a comparison when they were all driven on the same day. But you know damn well the CTS-V will destroy the E63 in everything but 0-60 because AWD.

But but but.. Cadillac doesn't have a V12!

What's funny is his beloved Mercedes barely even competes in the performance spectrum against GM's V Series or Z06. ATS-V beats the C63 S and M3 in the 1/4 mile and to 150mph ATS-V: 19.8sec to 150mph C63 S: 23.7sec to 150mph M3: 23.3sec to 150mph Comparo Need another comparo? 'Nother Comparo Still quickest, brakes the best, and "dusted" the M3 and C63 in their skidpad as well.

Because that's completely unnecessary ..and CAFE.. Unlike those Euro companies GM sells Vettes in very good numbers. Especially when all of the recently tested AMG 65's are slower than the AMG 63's because too much power. Worthless without traction.

100lbs is negligible at highway cruising but I would agree with increased drag.

Interesting.. 4mpg highway is a big difference. I'd also assume the ATS-V is geared differently, more aggressively.

What're the mileage rating differences?

I can understand this point. Yeah... I'm just not a huge fan of V6's in general. I'd rather the 4cyl turbo in most applications.

I know I'm comparing 2 generations but fairly comparable.. 3.0V6 in the last gen Escape and the 2.0T in the current Escape. Both 240hp. V6 Tq: 223lb-ft 1500lbs towing 19/25 mpg(FWD) 2.0T Tq: 270 lb-ft 3500lbs towing 22/30mpg(FWD) The Explorer is the only one of those I would take the N/A V6 over the turbo mill. N/A V6's...blow. Maybe the Taurus as well.. but I just hate the Taurus so much I would never even consider this old as F one that is out now. My argument would be there CAN be replacement for displacement and it varies a lot on the application and intent.

I've only seen one Envision and it was driving. My local GM dealer has plenty of the Cascada and LaX though. The LaX is a very attractive looking vehicle.

There is more torque by a mile though. And in the usable rpm range as well.

Random observation... This was your 30,000th post. CONGRATS..?!? lol