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I've heard that's really good. I'm yet to watch it though.. I heard it's quite eye opening.

I think a written review by journalists like Drew are a much better source than people who may or may not subscribe to JD/CR and may or may not report their issues back to them as well. According to that link Audi is more reliable than a Ram or a HONDA. That's why you take that with a grain of salt.

Those ratings are to be taken with a grain of salt... The things that get reported and the people who report them completely skew the results.

I think it is more for while you're driving to power smaller things so less is taken away from the main battery pack and there aren't going to be many(or any) parked outside while at home but parking for work or shopping there will be plenty left outside.

Very good to know. I would have thought the larger of the companies in Benz to have nailed that down the best. Goes to show you were companies place their resources.

This. This was my whole point. I don't think it looks bad and I even think this could be on lower trim models but I think an inch larger would make a much better impression. Something that may seem petty to pick at is one of the very first things a couple looking at one of these and cross shopping these to their competition will see and analyze. For something pushing 80k I just think larger would be better. Not Tesla large, but larger. Personally, I dig the S Class's setup. I think the dual screens looks super fancy and high tech. I am still a fan of actual buttons to touch but I have a feeling in a car of that caliber those screens work near flawlessly and I probably wouldn't have much of an issue with them.. but that's also in a car that starts at like 96k.

It is definitely much larger than the Continental's screen size.

Definitely, I'm not suggesting that they should have put a screen the size of the Model S's in there but a larger screen with larger icons(buttons) is definitely more luxurious when it makes it easier to navigate though. The screen in the Conti is most likely the same screen size(and likey the same exact screen) that is in my Escape. It's not small but I would want more in a car that can tip the scales with the 7 Series, A8, CT6, and Jag XJ. Looking at those three the Jag's looks the same size and those other 3 are all larger. But if I'm not wrong, the XJ is the oldest of them.

I don't think a Dodge Charger falls into "sport lux" or "premium". A Chrysler 300 could fall into the "premium" category but not a Dodge. As much as I love the ATS the engines just don't mesh well for premium. A n/a V6..kind of sucks.. and the 2.0T(which I want BTW) just isn't a $50k engine to me. I want north of 300 ponies for that much money. Jaguar XE PRESTIGE Supercharged V6, 340hp. (I couldn't afford any color other than black or white because they cost $550 and that put me over budget lol)

"Tesla has created its own glass technology group, CEO Elon Musk announced this week on a conference call, reports Eletrek. Not only will this special glass be used for solar roof tiles, but it will also have automotive applications. In fact, the first car to receive the new glass will be the Model 3, Musk confirmed. Last week, Tesla announced it would create actual solar roofs (as opposed to solar panels) that are highly durable and can provide power for homes. In a video posted to Twitter, Tesla showed off the strength of its new solar roof glass tiles. But the ultra-strong glass technology will apparently trickle down to the roof or windshield of the Model 3. The entry-level sedan offers a full-length glass roof spanning from the windshield to the rear window, making it the perfect vehicle for this tech. Then again, the Tesla Model S already features an open, airy panoramic roof, and the Model X has the largest glass panoramic windshield in production. Musk took to Twitter to explain the benefits of the special glass. Ads by ZINC "Solar glass tiles can also incorporate heating elements, like rear defroster on a car, to clear roof of snow and keep generating energy" The director of Tesla Glass is Mike Pilliod, who was a top materials engineer at Apple. He has patented innovations relating to glass, including glass touchscreens. Source: Eletrek, Business Insider " http://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-model-3-use-glass-technology-solar-roofs/ I just thought this was waaaay too cool not to share!

Agreed @Frisky Dingo. They entered the market of the two deepest rosters with the heaviest of heavy hitters in the Camry, Accord, and Malibu and just didn't execute it well. It would have ad to have been absolutely perfect but like you said the segment is shrinking anyway. I'm sure all of the other mid size sedan companies are glad to see somebody leave the segment to get a few sales back. The segment was just too damn deep. They need somebody else to leave the segment as well but I don't see that happening right away.

"All of the cabin’s touch points are high-quality; Lincoln has created its own switchgear for the Continental (and eventually the rest of the Lincoln line) with knurled-metal control knobs on the steering wheel and A/C system, and unique turn-signal stalks." " The Continental’s interior—at least on these two higher trims—is like nothing seen on a modern-era Lincoln currently on a showroom floor." MT Continental Review I think THIS is one thing that Lincoln needs. You can't be jumping in a 10k premium Lincoln and see bits and pieces from Fords. Hopefully this will help distinguish Lincoln from Ford and they can march on and take strides into the true luxury market.

Isn't the Model S sold globally?

YES, Very much so. I mean at 80k why would you even consider this next to an S Class for 20k more. I realize that is A LOT of money more but if you're buying a 80k luxury car you can afford to buy a 100k luxury car. It isn't the kind of car you finance 80% of it for 84 months. 96,600 for a S550e which gives you 436hp and hybrid efficiency. And if not the S Class there's a 7 Series that starts at 81,500, A8 starts at 82,500. Option them both up 8-9k and you're talking about an A8 and 7 Series for 10k more than a Continental.. That is easily doable for this clientele.

Well in an $80,000 car I would hope it would automatically dim in low light situations. I mean our phones know to do that.. can't cost much to add that feature.

Yeah... I just wanted the Conti to drop a bomb on the world with a world class car from top to bottom and nail the "quiet luxury" theme they're going for. It is by no means disappointing but that's something that I think should have been addressed for Black Label trim that you're paying a pretty good premium for.

I like the controls and layout of the center stack it is just the screen size on a car that can cost up to $80,000 seems smaller than it could/should be, IMO.

It's super gnarly looking but would you pay nearly 30k for something this small? I would have to believe it would only be available in high trim with added price for it as well...that's what GM tends to do..

Yeah it seem most people(and people I know and talk to) either want a smaller and efficient car or a SUV or truck for s larger vehicle. Nobody really seems to want large cars. If they want larger they want SUVs or trucks.

I know I'm being a little picky but the interior in general on the Conti does look very very good but the infotainment screen just seems small for the car and price it reaches up to. I think it should be an inch or even two larger and be a little more prominent in the center stack. Touching a smaller screen like that(which really isn't small but looks similar in size to my Escape's) can be work to correctly touch buttons while driving.

Agreed!!

Alright I want to clarify these sinking cars... Are they cars that we're saving? Cars that I'd like to see around in 50 years? Cars that I hate and want underwater? I'm kind of confused on that part..? I originally thought it was cars that I'd like to save but Frisky's post seemed more like 5 cars I want to get rid of forever.

I tried explaining this to him back on the first page here but because it is a Mustang and not a Camaro there is no rational thinking going on. Drew gave a great example of same engine losing power with rerouting exhaust and intake as well. That's just the science of the beast.

Because these are fun..I'll do another. And while I'm in love with the GT I'll leave it out of this one but it would definitely replace the M4 in this lineup. These are all brand new 2016/17 model year cars. 911 Turbo S (TT3.8) M4(TT3.0) ATS-V(Sedan - TT3.6) Raptor(TT3.5) S550e(3.0 BiTurbo V6 + Hybrid = 436hp)

Probably because car prices are increasing at a rate that people can't keep up with(inflation).