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Your attempts to rile me up are laughable. The ATS essentially replace the CTS in the Cadillac line and only the name goes back to what the second gen CTS was. The CTS currently is for all intents the STS from before. Thus.. no coupe. IN terms of sales the product mix: 2011 Coupe 27% 2011 Sedan 70% 2011 Wagon 3% 2012 Coupe 27% 2012 Sedan 70% 2012 Wagon 4% 2013 Coupe 29% 2013 Sedan 68% 2013 Wagon 3% 2014 Coupe 29% 2014 Sedan 69% 2014 Wagon 2% with almost 30% going to coupe sales 2011 55,042 2012 46,979 2013 32,343 2014 31,115 Means that almost 15K were coupe sales in 2011. BMW's 3series sales, when it was a coupe and convertible were 15% of that mix. Meaning that Cadillac sold almost double.. by percentage.. of CTS Coupes than BMW did coupes and convertibles combined Now go post a video or something clown While correct in % but with 3 series roughly doubling, in 2011, CTS sales at 94,153(and the ratio worsens beyond 2011 as CTS drop and 3 rise) they would still be selling the same total number of 3 Series coupes(now 4Series). They can just amortize the costs better and make a better business case for variants...which in my opinion they are way beyond number of choices at this point.. 3 Series Grand Turisno? One of the ugliest vehicles ever made. Proportions are dog $h!.

The CTS Coupe stopped production in 2013 only leaving the CTS-V Coupe in production til the 2nd quarter of 2014. That might explain some of those numbers... as it wasn't even being produced in 2015, and just selling off what was left. That makes sense then, thank you. Makes sense why there was such a drop of from year to year when I was looking at the numbers. Big difference.

Well 30% of nothing is still nothing! I kid I kid.. Okay well we can compare random month and year sales for comparison to see if it is actually good. August 2015 CTS Sales: 1730 * .3 = 519 CTS Coupes sold 4 Series: 2940 Cars sold Just numbers... Does the CTS and 3/4 series compete..Ehhh I feel like the CTS Coupe is kind of a tweener size.. but the previous gen I'd say was definitely closer to the current 4 Series.

Luckily this is an opinion based thread and nobody can be wrong!

One of my best friends just bought a 2015 Fiesta ST. I'm pretty freakin stoked to get to drive it!

If I'm not mistaken the e-Golf is the same way. I tried to shop around for one just for the heck of it to see prices and they are nowhere near me.

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..GuestDave.. that was a 10 year old post..lol You should sign up and join the daily community here at CnG!

Just different approaches.. especially concerning size. I mean one could make the same assessment coming out of a 535 and getting into a 335i. Also.. in terms of fuel economy.. as far as I kno.. the Cruze will be stopping at 30/35/42, while the Malibu does have a hybrid pulling in 47/46/46 and a 0-60 time in the exact same numbers as the Cruze, while being a larger car. Aren't we supposed to see a diesel Cruze yet? That thing will eat up that 47/46/46 of the hybrid Malibu. The ratings may not be there but diesels are known to easily out due their ratings anyway.

*Cough* Casa *Cough*

Make excuses all you want but there is simply no excuse for pleather in a $50k+ Benz. No excuse. If this were offered by Cadillac, you would have a field day talking about GM bean counters and them being cheap. 110% Correct.

Bell ordered one, eh?? Gettin rid of the ole Jag. That's exciting! I wish there was a good way to connect back to the handful of MT guys, like Bell, to keep in contact with them.

I guess I just assumed it was just every 2016 off the line was build with the additional reinforcements and 2015s weren't fixed or anything because they still passed the tests, just not with flying colors lol.

Have you seen it in person yet? The size and presence of it in person definitely outdue the pics because I don't think it looks like anything special in pictures either.

Even the Koreans? Aren't they usually on the overrated engine/optimistic with times? I definitely think the CT6 will be quicker than it but I'm not sure about the Korean jobs.

Really neat.. but also pass. If I was stupid loaded I'd like to buy it but w/o any special markings on the outside nobody would "get it" so the joke isn't that funny.

. Thou cannot also not call a car luxury when leather isn't even standard. Funny how you dodge those little facts that show how gullible most Mercedes buyers are. Worded perfectly. If leather is not a STANDARD FEATURE on a car.. it is not luxury. Maybe they make luxurious trims, and in my opinion they do, but not all E Class or C Class cars are luxury automobiles just because they have a nice chassis under the cloth seats.

Damn.. You guys ave gotten to see a P1 in person?!? Jealous. I have my jealous pants on right now. Well my post now sucks.. I was going to say I saw a TSX Wagon today and I thought that was rare..

Hey Casa, when you bought both of your Cadillacs... did you have to pay extra to have leather seats? Or do all Cadillacs come with leather?

I have this odd feeling that there has never been an E250 on the Nurburgring.. So the AMG is VERY LIKELY the only version of an E Class that was tested on the 'Ring. Some people don't care if it's RWD or FWD. Yeah it drips the base price to FIFTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS and you still don't get real leather. That's such a joke. They won't have a near 25% off sale like the S Class though. ( That's your bread and butter car too )

It really isn't. If all I wanted was freakin' leather in my MERCEDES BENZ I have to pay an extra $1,620. It's amazing what their clientele is willing to just piss money on, things that are standard on much lesser vehicles(price).

Wow, interesting. I know it was only an XL but the other F150 tested weighed only 4,388lbs I'm curious why they only tested 2WD models.

It looks so small.

Hahahahaha Yeah except it isn't competing with a sport sedan. Of course nothing American has great interiors because they aren't German. *sarcasm* What's funny is for $7000 you get 2hp, fake leather(MB Tex bull$h!), no keyless ignition like the Lincoln comes with, No heated seats like the Lincoln comes with, No rear view Camera like the Lincoln comes with, 17 inch wheels(Lincoln comes with 18's) Yeah, what a bargain the E Class is. Exactly! What really grinds my gears is the fake leather in a car that STARTS at FIFTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS. That's just insane and complete bull$h!.

How many miles did you get out of the OEM rubber and what were they? The duratracs?