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  1. surreal1272
    This, because that is what I was getting at. For most Americans (especially in urban and large metro areas), a long range EV is going to be the defacto choice for daily driving. Mark my words.
  2. surreal1272
    And with 258 miles of range, most owners would not have to plug every night as he is trying to insulate here. For me, I could go two weeks and two more days before I'd even have to charge the Bolt. The argument is just null for most folks like myself.
  3. surreal1272
    I love how some folks think their ONE case scenario fits most when it is only certain that it fits them. Betting more people will find great uses for these cars regardless of the misinformation and discrediting being perpetrated by one person here. Bitch about the price all they want but it is a hell of a lot cheaper now than even five years ago to own a proper EV and it will get cheaper.
  4. surreal1272
    And double the price with the same ugly as a Prius. Oh and it runs on hydrogen power.
  5. surreal1272
    You missed the point there. I posted that to illustrate that the Bolt is a far better value than those others due to having a much larger EV range and it was built from the ground up as an EV and not a horribly modified compact car that was never intended for such use.
  6. surreal1272
    Only one of these has a range of more than 120 miles (and in fact double that range).
  7. surreal1272
    I live in the Phoenix area and the Bolt would be a perfect second car for my work commute. All the towns here, like Scottsdale, Glendale, Chandler, etc are so close together with tons of charging stations, that cars like the Bolt are practically a no brainer.
  8. surreal1272
    How is it that some people seem to be incapable of separating what suits them on the road with what suits everyone else? EVs with more than 200 miles range serve a great purpose for a lot of folks who do nothing but city driving and short to medium range trips. It is more common than some here understand and I have a feeling that the problem with the Bolt and others like it is that it doesn't come from the right maker. Just my opinion though.
  9. surreal1272
    Well it is a little bigger than the Scion so it makes sense.
  10. surreal1272
    Yeah Scion dropped the ball with the 2nd gen xB. It added to much weight and killed the look that made the first one a hit with the young crowd.
  11. surreal1272
    I can attest to that. Test drove one for my wife about a year ago and I actually liked it for the very reasons you mentioned. My wife still wants one to this day but alas, we have to wait for now.
  12. surreal1272
    A huge red herring for folks who don't do their research. Five years ago, this would be a legitimate gripe but the landscape has changed in just a short time. Folks hanging on to these old notions of range anxiety better catch up with the times or get left behind because this is where the industry is headed eventually.
  13. surreal1272
    It's like some people don't understand the pure convenience factor of a car like the Bolt. Oh and let's not forget to mention, no oil changes EVER.
  14. surreal1272
    That's the only VW I want.
  15. surreal1272
    Never apologize for what you choose to drive. You owe an explanation of why to no one (referring to dfelt but applies to anyone).
  16. surreal1272
    Okay but that doesn't really answer my question. You are right to use your sales experience as a barometer here but others here may also have similar sales experience that contradict your assertions. Just seems a little presumptuous to say it like you are the only one here who can properly vouch for the success or failure of a car. Maybe I'm reading you wrong here but that's just the impression that I get.
  17. surreal1272
    Is there a reason why you assume you're the only salesman in the room?
  18. surreal1272
    Why is there a vaporware vs. actual product argument anyway? Sorry but I just don't get it.
  19. surreal1272
    I think there are a lot assumptions about buyers of both the Bolt and Tesla. That is the biggest hinderance as to understanding why or why not said car succeeds. If someone owns an expensive CUV/SUV and a Tesla, that doesn't mean anything other than the fact that one is for highway traveling while the other is perfectly suited to city and short range highway drives. Unless someone here has actually talked to these particular Tesla owners, it's pretty silly to assume anything else than what it's intended purpose is.
  20. surreal1272
    It does sound like the dealerships could be the only real hurdle for this car. If they are not serious about the product at a dealership level, then this car will be dead in the water. Like you said though, if they do it right, there is no reason why this can't succeed. Time will tell I guess. I would also like to clarify that I meant $35K and not $35 for the Tesla 3. Hell, if that's the case, I'll take ten!
  21. surreal1272
    On top of all that, I will say that while I like Tesla overall, the 3 looks awful. The proportions make it look like an S that has been pinched in from the front to the back. The Bolt, while not being a "looker" in the traditional sense, at least is (compared to the 3 at this point), A. A usable hatchback with a more than usable range for the price. and B. (and this is the most important part here) Real. I also think the 3 will not come in anywhere near $35 when it's all said and done.
  22. surreal1272
    @FordCosworth--So, what was the reason this time?
  23. surreal1272
    You need to stop using your imagination and understand reality. Those well off folks got that way by using the credits and saving money. That's personal economics 101. You know, you keep coming up with these wild excuses as to why the Bolt won't succeed while ignoring every reason why it can succeed. Could it be because it comes from GM because if this were an odd looking EV Benz for that price, I feel you would be singing a completely different tune. Sources please because I'm calling 100% BS on every bit of you claim.
  24. surreal1272
    That's exactly what I was thinking. It's like Takata part deux.
  25. surreal1272
    The problem is real simple here Drew. The problem he has is not because of the price range or how it looks. It's because of who makes it. Great point about the Prius. It is living proof that most folks don't care about looks when it comes to these types of cars. And GM has the solution to that gas problem as well, in case you forgot. It's called the Volt. And at $35K, Tesla is arguing for value. To think otherwise is just silly.
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