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Except that is factually not true. Like them or not, they are above average reliability and have been consistently so for many years compared to companies like GM and Ford. They are not "no better than average" and it can be proven again and again. Sorry. Not praising Toyota here but facts are facts.
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And Toyota had fewer recalls on their entire lineup for 2020 than Chevrolet and fewer totals recalls than GMC. The 2020 Sierra alone had nine recalls for ONE trim level model.
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Again, recalls do not equal long term reliability. On that same site, for Chevrolet, it's 7 pages to Toyota's 4 for 2020 model year cars. Hell, there are 4 pages for GMC alone. Are GMCs overrated as well?
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Holy hell! I forgot they were still sporting a four speed, four pot in those. Good lord! I'll take any year 5 speed operated 4 Runner over even the best and "newest" Journey!
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(Still looking for the part where number of recalls=reliability and finds nothing)
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I was a longtime Porsche fan, even after VW ownership (and that is exactly what it was, in the end) but they are just ridiculous high for all the wrong reasons, even with being great driving machines. I miss my dads "undercover VW" '74 914. That had the old VW flat four with fuel injection. My dad swapped out the fuel injectors for a couple of twin barrel Webers, that ran great for about a month before the backfiring problems started and ruined everything lol. Such a fun little car that I only got to ride in, as my dad was not about to let his 16 year old son drive his baby, especially after that same son got a speeding ticket in an '81 Chevette (yes, it is possible to get one in a Chevette).
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That has already been pointed out to him and his only response was to post the low volume G-Wagen (at least he spelled right that time) number. When I post the GLS numbers vs the Navigator, he moved the bar yet again to change the subject. I also showed him an article stating that the market will come crashing back down so his initial comparison were moot anyway. Fanboys only see what they want to see and run away form the rest. Of course you don’t see it. That’s the point that EVERYONE here is trying to make to you. I remember the 90s and not many folks thought Porsche could make it long term before VW took over. That was common knowledge then.
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I’m not “bashing” though. I have presented facts that back up everything I’ve said about whereas you tend to make blanket, and non researched, statements. Fact. Furthermore, outside of Tesla, you bash domestics every chance you get. Find me ONE Cadillac thread here where you are not trying to pass off your opinion as fact. You chime on those threads constantly but are surprisingly absent the few Mercedes threads there are here. Sorry, that’s bashing and trolling. We are not the same here. I actually like Tesla, in principle, but I’m not blind and when you’re not making a profit over the last decade and building cars with a Yugo like quality to them, you’re damn straight I’m going to bash them, bash them with facts. Again, we are not the same and neither is the “bashing”.
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Actually we do know. And Alfa lost money because Sergio is an idiot and no one wanted their piss poor built cars. https://manufacturingglobal.com/smart-manufacturing/ford-motor-company-reports-strong-2021-q1-results Yep they sure can because they have actual experience in mass producing cars without the countless quality issues still plaguing a newbie like Tesla. It’s not that hard to figure out unless you are just looking for any excuse to $h! on domestics. And just stop with the bar moving. As soon as you got called out over the depreciation of the GLS, you moved on to something else. Just stop it. Tesla can’t even compete with Ford levels of quality. https://autos.yahoo.com/comparison-test-2021-ford-mustang-110000731.html
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Maybe you should look at this first. There was “only” a $25K price difference between them brand new so I don’t know where in the hell you got this “they were the same price” BS from. That literally kills your entire argument there. The Benz is even easier to dismiss since it is a low volume vehicle. Hell, the discontinued Chevrolet SS sedan used prices sell around original MSRP for the same reason. It was a low volume production car. F that G-Wagen. You are still missing the point. A three year old Ford is still selling at or near its original MSRP and the value is still going up (much like that 4 Runner you can’t source properly), hardly this big drop bull$h! you keep throwing around about Fords and Lincoln’s. Btw, the volume model is the SE.
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Alternative Fuels & Propulsion RANDOM
surreal1272 replied to G. David Felt's topic in Electric Vehicles and Alternative Fuels
In an effort to get this back on track, I am just going to leave this little Tesla Y vs Ford Mustang Mach-E article right here. Go ahead and act like Tesla isn't sweating the competition and remember what's been said here (repeatedly) about their quality that clearly hasn't been fixed after more than a decade in existence for Tesla. People notice stuff like that, you know? https://www.yahoo.com/autos/comparison-test-2021-ford-mustang-110000731.html -
Then your 4 Runner example does not fly because its high value was a direct result of what has happened to EVERY OTHER BRAND out there. That's what you are clearly not getting. You also assuming the term levels in question here without a direct link or comparison. Just pulling stuff out of thin air. Now please read the chart in the link below. Lincoln has been pulling higher 90 increases than Lexus and Mercedes. https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/price-trends/
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You have a reading comprehension problem. My car is six years old and went up in value, not a year ago. Again, this is a trend on ALL cars but some do better than others. Feel free to refer my post at the top of this page. Let me add to that part: The CarGurus tool also lets you see how much the particular model you want has increased in price. So, for instance, the average price of a 2018 Volkswagen Atlas is up 14 percent, while the average price of a 2018 Ford Escape is up 24 percent year over year. That particular Toyota (RAV4 hybrid) is a lower volume model because of it being a hybrid but you knew this already before you decided to slam a domestic ride yet again. Base model RAV4s sure as hell don’t do that. Again, stop the BS routine.
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@smk4565 And again, educate yourself. From an article about increased used car prices. Interesting the omission of certain brands here. There are 11 brands in CarGurus' data set that have seen used car prices go up more than 30 percent, year over year. The list is led by Ram (up 40.5 percent), followed by Aston Martin (38.1), Ford (38.7), GMC (37.9), Chevrolet (37.3), Dodge (36.4), VW (35.1), Lincoln (32.9), Toyota (30.5), and Hyundai and Kia (both 30.1).