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But according to you, those kind of 0-60 numbers aren't good enough for everyone else so thanks for confirming the exception being Benz because there is "going to be" a supposed faster version. BTW, it is not jouster the Plaid S that dusts that Benz. It's pretty much every trim of the Model S doing that (they all do better than 3 seconds). Just interesting to see the excuses granted to one but not the other.

@David I will say this. Performance aside, most reviews spoke highly of the luxury component and the interior of the EQS but as a luxury maker, that's the way a Benz should be. It's downfall is less than stellar performance numbers (again, we have heard non-stop crowing about Tesla's 0-60 numbers as the be all, end all so let's see if it's a big deal for a $100K Benz) and looking like a ten year old jellybean from VW.

A snippet from recent MT article about the Mercedes Benz EQS. "The EQS580's dual motors combine for 516 hp and 631 lb-ft of torque—with the rear motor being the same 329-hp, 419-lb-ft unit used in the EQS450+—and Mercedes says it'll reach 60 mph in 4.1 seconds. That's quick for something so large, but that 4.1 seconds is nearly twice as long as it'll take a Tesla Model S Plaid to reach the same speed. The EQS450+ moves more deliberately still, needing a claimed 5.9 seconds to reach 60." So, are 0-60 times still important? Asking for a friend who insists that Tesla's 0-60 times are what makes them so great. Source: https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-mercedes-benz-eqs-electric-luxury-car-first-drive-review/

I’m guessing you are figuring if you mention it enough times, they’ll actually produce the damn thing? Oh and for $2.7 million, it better the fastest on the ring. God forbid a just over $100K Vette (from an economy car company, according to you) make it sweat lol.

Semantics because it still broke the record without AWD. That kit, btw, is basically an aero package and it doesn’t matter that it’s not “stock”. It can still be added by Porsche at a Porsche dealership so your attempt to dilute its achievement over the Benz is pretty obvious.

They’ve been marketing against those cars for decades now. Not sure what planet you’ve been living on. You need to stop this obsession of yours where you constantly $h! on cars like the Vette just because it’s still a Chevrolet. That hasn’t mattered since day one the car came out and it matters even less now except to silly little German fanboys who have to find any excuse to tear down a domestic. Sorry, but your game is just old at this point. They won’t go that route because it’s dumb. Not sure what you’re not getting here.

Just stop it. Just about every import there is new by word market standards and even the Chinese know about the Vette and those with the dough won't give two $h!s about Chevrolet being an "economy" brand. Again, GM knows the China market pretty well and much better than you do. No. And thanks for confirming why you are not in marketing.

And? There is big money in China and the rich folks there will swoop up any new Vette in droves regardless of the import tax. Other brands have succeeded like there and so can GM. They know the China market quite well, actually.

Agreed. It should also be noted that I'm not sure that Bowling Green can handle those kind of numbers anyway so unless they add to that plant or something of that nature, those numbers are never going to happen.

I get what your saying and they should see an increase once everything is back to normal with part shortages and such but I do not see it ever hitting 80-100K. Color me surprised if it does, even as good as it is. I agree but I don't think it's too risky, price wise, given the fact that the GT is already expensive as hell lol.

You sure about that? https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/history-of-turbo/amg-new-flat-plane-v8-explained https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a33298784/mercedes-amg-gt-black-series-flat-plane-crank-twin-turbo-v-8/ In other words, Benz is copying Ferrari as well but its only a issue for SMK because the Vette is copying them (skip the part where Ford has already used the motor in the Mustang) Again, https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a33298784/mercedes-amg-gt-black-series-flat-plane-crank-twin-turbo-v-8/

I hate to agree with him but SMK is right. The Vette has never sold more than mid-30K a year so 80-100k is never going to happen unless they sell them everywhere and not just here and a few select countries. But you are still wrong in saying "always". It would be more accurate to say that they used to suck gas. Thats all I'm saying. So a POS Ferrari is your case study on that engine but not the AMG-GT that ALSO USES IT?

Not exactly true. Over the last two decades, they have routinely gotten mid-20s on the highway. So much context missing here, one doesn’t even know where to begin.

Probably huh? And this assumption is based off of what exactly? Maybe you’re basing that off of the Mercedes AMG-GT and their flat plane V8?

The yellow was a Trans Am, if I recall correctly. I know it was a Pontiac.

The same year Monte Carlo SS comes close but still, no Buick.

Thats kind of my thing. Yes, I was bummed it wasn’t a legit GNX but both of those cars were restored to almost new and there is just something about those in black.

A shame about both the GNs. They were both sharp looking rides but the GNX badging where it doesn’t belong almost kills it.

McLarin 720. And yes, there were some really nice rides. The vintage aqua ‘71 C10 (talked to the owner for a few seconds) was probably my favorite. Just a super clean ride and one of favorite gen pick ups from back in the day.

So I accidentally posted this to the June thread insets of this one and I too lazy to do it all over again here.

A lot of car spotting today. There is a little local car show here every second Saturday a month (during the warm months). Some nice rides out there but I could only get a few pics because I was working at a shop on that very street today. Some more... I also just realized that I posted this on the June thread instead of the July thread. F***! Oh well.

Let me just say that if they manage to give an EV Challenger 500 miles of range, I am selling some organs for it. I only need one kidney.

Well, this is certainly interesting and an about face for some in the Dodge crowd. https://www.yahoo.com/autos/dodge-launch-worlds-first-electric-132500545.html

It’s called “everyone has different tastes”.

A little Soundgarden through a resurrected 5th gen. iPod video.