surreal1272

Because much like every other industry out there, not all of them can be "winners" but maybe I'm just guilty of using common sense here instead of using sensationalism and exceptionalism to make a point.

A century in use overall yet some folks still can't build a manual transmission worth a damn. It also adds to why I think the Gladiator is one the most overhyped vehicles released in the last 30 years (at least) and I'd have a hard time finding one from the past that was so overpriced, so utterly useless as a pick up (apparently it can not safely tow anything), and so typical of the company that owns it now. How do you F up a six speed manual in a JEEP? https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a34761896/2020-jeep-gladiator-mojave-reliability-maintenance/

What exactly doesn’t make any sense? That’s exactly what they did. And again, that article you linked was flawed from top to bottom for reasons are covered so maybe it’s just time to move on.

Then you didn’t pay attention to what he actually said since he was clearly talking about the early 1900s when this took place, ie. he was correct. Moving along...

So people having to go to a nearby store with (presumably) gas can in hand, isn’t EXACTLY what David was saying? Seems like your making excuses a bit here by sidestepping that. Help me out here.

You didn’t read the second link I provided, where it talks about what folks used to have to do in order to get gas. Also, one really important thing to consider in that second part of your math. Gas stations of today have up to five times as many pumps per station as gas stations in the 1920s which, again, skews your math a bit. And you didn’t want a complete historical overview yet it is 100% relevant to what was being discussed. One important thing to note about that survey is what it said in the article. “…that surveyed Californians who purchased an electric vehicle between 2012 and 2018.” Thats three years ago. Now I’m not saying everything is better now but again, three years ago. One last thing. The writer of said article (about the survey) needs to review his stuff before posting. Kind of dings the credibility a bit. And I quote: ”Even with the faster charging, a Chevy Volt he tested still needed nearly six hours to top its range back up to 300 miles from nearly empty” Read that again if you don’t see the issue there. And some people can’t even handle putting gas in their damn car. Years ago, when I was driving a tow truck, I picked up two Camrys in which the drivers managed to put full tanks of DIESEL in them, on the same day!

There were 15,000 in 1920, not 22,000. That skews your math a bit and it also doesn’t consider density of numbers (filling stations) as it relates to the population (and where people were living) at the time. https://uh.edu/engines/epi975.htm https://americanhistory.si.edu/america-on-the-move/fill-up Hell, because of our dependence on foreign oil, we had this in the 70s so maybe you need to stop acting like gas has a trouble free existence in just its firsts 60 years in this country. Just saying.

Would have never taken you for a chrome guy in a truck but I guess, given your affinity for the classic rides, it shouldn’t be too surprising. Either way, it’s a sharp looking truck.

Looks sharp from here. Really like the Black trim as opposed to all the chrome they normally come with. Seems like a Balth kind of ride.

Really? Their own “design”? Well, they may have “designed” it but that’s it. “Mercedes-Benz will source batteries from Chinese firm CATL for its upcoming EQS electric car. Scheduled to launch in certain markets next year, the electric luxury sedan is targeting a range of 435 miles, as measured on the European WLTP testing cycle.” And you think that’s an up sell for Mercedes? LMMFAO!! Sorry, but I’ll trust LG and their decades of experience on Batteries over some no name Chinese company. It’s also not some “off the shelf” battery either. Where in the hell do you come up with this nonsense? How to say “I don’t know what I’m talking about” without actually saying “I don’t know what I’m talking about”.?

Crazy looks or otherwise, it also gets 36MPG, which is far better than ANY 3 row full size SUV that will see just about as much "off road" use. I see zero problem with this.

The “hurry up and wait” part of this is the hardest part, I’m sure. Can’t wait to see some good pics of your new ride.

Good grief bar mover. It’s more expensive than all of those (not to mention the XT4 is a whole class smaller), and it’s only rocking a four banger at entry level. Just stop and pay attention to what’s actually being said instead of making up new criteria and kicking that bar around. Why in the F would they? All that proves is that Porsche buyers have more money than sense. Just a stupid, stupid comparison.

It should be noted, while some folks here are bitching about a hypothetical price jump with AWD, that the Lyriq undercuts two of its competitors in the segment, the Jaguar I-Pace ($70K with LESS range) and the Audi E-Tron ($67K, also with less range) so even if AWD is $10K, it is right in line with the competition so maybe these phantom complaints should sit this out until its known for certain what AWD will cost.

Actually the early comments here were about it possibly not having AWD at all, which is why David posted that again.

You missed the point of that by a country mile (nevermind the fact we have now gone from a $10K jump to a $15K because apparently that makes for a better exaggeration). They do if you want performance to go with that AWD (the GLC alone requires a $16K bump if you want AWD and an actual powertrain that will move it). Besides, until they release an AWD model, you are just assuming the worst about it, as per the usual.

No. The question is why does it matter. All companies do this with entry level (which, in this case, is still very nice) models and then adding more expensive models with more options like AWD and more power. Take Benz for example. They do that with the AMG lineup yet folks like you don’t blink twice at the obscene price jump so it should not be any different for Cadillac regardless of how much more a higher performance AWD model is. Much like base model E-Class autos with glorified pleather seats, it gets the customer in the door so I see zero problem here while you are trying to make up a problem.

A car that size doesn't need a lot of torque.

Because reading is fundamental and some readers are just mental.

Is that why 95% of Mercedes sales volume involves vehicles that are all CHEAPER than the Escalade? You said what you said and it was a rather ignorant thing to say, no matter how you try to explain it. So many contractions, so little time.

You cannot be serious. I guess buyers of $100K Escalades don’t have money. I must have missed that memo but then again, I have to give you credit for yet another move of the bar. The excuses you offer to Benz, that you don’t extend to others, is just pathetic at this point. Umm, A Class, GLA, and Metris van on lines 1, 2, and 3. If they weren’t reliant on entry level products, none of those three would exist. Just pure nonsense.

Guess that doesn’t apply to Mercedes.

I love my sister but we are only 18 months apart (I’m the youngest) so it was a constant struggle for my parents, like herding feral cats. I should have been sending them sympathy and thank you for not killing us cards. Remember what you said about the XT5 vs the XT6? Let me find that for you. “2. XT5 has been on market longer and has more name recognition” The Blazer and Envision are both far newer named models than their big brothers. Guess that doesn’t apply here (hands SMK his bar back so that he can move it yet again). Again, no direct data to support your third row claim, using that name recognition logic you threw out.

Was a beautiful 78 degree day today so I sat outside with the camera (and 200mm telephoto attached) and caught some of the wildlife out and about.

The XT5 is not that great compared to its rivals either but I guess that requires you to move that bar again. I’ll give you a minute. Again, bar moving. Make up your mind.