balthazar

I have learned not to be surprised when seemingly nice people finally show their scumbag side. This, due to repeated example.

Standard Catalogs are much better than wikipedia of course, tho the SCs are also not without erroneous information. Still: the best general hard data source out there, IMO. As far as making an 'autopedia'.... do you guys know how much information we're talking about??? And if it's all posted from other sources, how do we go about fact-checking it? If it's not more correct that the already-available sources, I don't know if it's worth the mountain of time. Unless we have experts on certain vehicles or multiple sources to cross-reference.

There already is product they have little or no cause to disparage, but backhanded disparaging still continues. And my comment was not a systematic analysis of the piece, merely a singular comment on the ancient mindset of the reviewer. Whether you see it regularly or not, it's also part of the problem and it needs to be corrected, not ignored.

I'm going to hit Hershey on it's weekend instead. May sleep in the truck and make it 2 days, if I can hold out for that many miles of walking....

Over half a million square feet of new facility and only 400 jobs?? yay, toyota.... moving you..... zzzzzzzz Collect a 1 billion dollar business licensing fee for the privaledge to do business in that state & this country. Get it the same way 'Joe Paycheck' 'gets' his: a notice in the mail after everything's done.

It really seems like complete technical overkill, but then again; that's obviously what dives the market.

Chevy / GMC GMT800s had about 4 different side mirrors depending on model/year/options. There's the standard folding mirror, the power extendable folding, a 'twin stalk' mirror, and then a thin single stalk one that is easily replacable with one with a longer stalk. Some have horizontal glass, some vertical, some GMCs have slightly diagonal glass. RE the W/T: my buddy just bought an '06 W/T: it has a black grille insert, chrome surround & the same chrome bumper as on my LS. This sort of optioning/customization is where the import trucks do not even come close and have little hope of becoming major players.

Wow... and I wasn't even trying to be topical.That BS is bad enough in a stand-alone review, but in a comparo.... idiotic.

The "ouch" is paying $34K for a car that could be an up-trim-level sentra.

I'm complaining because his approach (at best) is ridiculously outmoded and the playing field is still on a crazy tilt. I don't remember about which vehicle a recent writer's article stated: 'a good choice if you must own a domestic' {paraphrase}- WTF is that S? Why are some writers still practicing segregation? It's BS.

IMO, the car has no presence; if you told me it was $20K I'd believe it. Nothing stylistically wrong with it, but for me: meh.

No diesel?? Uh-oh.

Almost flukey in it's positivity. Off his meds?? >>"it may be the best car built in America, period."<< Lookie: both a compliment and a disclaimer! The positives are quantified by 'by General Motors' or 'in the U.S.'; the negatives are always compared worldwide.

razor- without checking I believe you're referring to J Frank Wilson's Last Kiss. Yup: a tearjerker.

Cruising down the highway Using lots of gas, Got hundreds of horsepower, Got the energy to pass. Miles of steel & concrete, Between my home & here, I'm heading for 120, In only second gear. --Crush, Kill, Destroy ~ Elvis Hitler Tooling down the hightway doing 79, I'm a twin pipe papa and I'm feelin fine, Hey man dig that was that a red stop sign- (scrreeech-BANG!! tinkle) Transfusion, transfusion, I'm just a solid mess of contusions, Never never never gonna speed again, Slip the blood to me, Bud --Transfusion ~ Nervous Norvus

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Congrats! This is your first, right? You do realize that you have no earthly idea of what you've walked into, right?

Not by a long shot. Unique for sure but I've never warmed to the form: far too ovaloid and too simplistic. Nice, but not necessarily engaging or aspirational. This concept is fairly far down on the lust scale for most enthusiasts, in my wanderings. The D'Elegance that sold a B-J in Jan is far more interesting. I can't remember offhand what that one went for, but I remember it being what I thought was a relative bargin. Was it $1.1M? If that awes-striking vehicle was worth $1.1M, the Diablo is a solid 6-figure car. $650,000 is my appraisal.

Hang tough, brother.

Of course C&D preferred the M-B in many areas; they drive one at least every 8 weeks!!

Wow- she's looking quite nice there. Where's my ping-pong paddle?

Car was sent to the infamous Warhoops junkyard in MI where GM sent many of it's 'decomissioned' concepts, with express orders for it to be crushed. Junkyard owner has always recognized the historic (and/or perhaps the monetary??) value and saved a great number of them, but he did cut some apart in order to -assumedly- save future contract work from GM. The Biscayne was cut into 8 major pieces and scattered around the yard to 'hide' it. Bought circa '90 by concept car czar Joe Bortz of IL, I've only seen resto tidbits in the last year or so; it must've been in storage for a number of years after '90. Both Bortz and that Warhoops owner(?) should be awarded the Congressional Automotive Medal of Honor.

Interesting: I quit the 'boards' 6 years ago too, tho my board was a drafting table(/computer screen). Since then I've also done everything from (steadily more primary) excavation to demo, grading, trenching, pouring concrete, stonework, framing, drywall, finish work (trim, cabinet building/installation), electrical, plumbing, roofing, windows & doors, welding & steel fabrication and a good dozen other areas.

Really, the only thing stylisticaly questionable on the Biscayne is the location/treatment of the headlights. Conceal them ala the '66 Toro and you have something. The rest is pretty slick, esp the 'reverse Corvette cove' that wraps around into the rear fascia.

razor- "? - are you saying 15" truck tires are becoming hard to come by ?" ocn- "Yup... 15 inchers are going the way of the covered wagon, I'm afraid, especially in the odd, 6 lug bolt circle of the GMT355." ocn's talking rims, not tires.