NINETY EIGHT REGENCY

I enjoyed the photos again sir.. I have one question here for everyone.. Looking at your car and the others, why doesn't GM make cars like that anymore. I remember when you looked forward to every model year. I remember when you like each car from division to division. I remember you had a car that you just liked from GM. Everything was right on the car even control placement. There was not a thing you would change.. Now.. I can honestly say there is not one GM car that would make me want to trade my cars in. Even the ones that come close have too many short comings or control placement is wrong more it is lacking something. Maybe there is hope for the future...

Those cars look better in those photos than they do from GM. I mean really.. they look nice..

Oh dear....

I drove a current Grand Prix when my first Ninety Eight was totaled. I liked the styling and interior to some degree as it reminded me of the 1977 Grand Prix. Now.. that aside I missed so many of my features the Ninety Eight has. I also missed the comfort and room. The Grand Prix had great performance and speed and handling, but the car lacked the comfort and features I had become used to. Would I recommend it to others a midsize car to buy? Yes. The Impala has the room. Buick LaCrosse has the luxury. Pontiac has the ride. Wildman Joe I like your Ninety Eight picture in your signature. I used to have a signature here. It had a black Ninety Eight and was really nice.

Very nice photo spread. I must say I enjoyed this. I noticed several things: 1. That Lucerne concept is where Lucerne got its name from. That concept also was the basis for the 1995-1999 Riviera, but something got lost in the translation. You can see the similar lines too. That concept looks a bit better than the Riviera did... 2. That Voyage and Solitaire were the basis for the 1992-1999 Eldorado and the 1992-1997 Seville. That front end showed up on many early 1990's Cadillacs. 3. I liked the Toronado I saw. 4. GM takes its collection and cars very seriously. I also thought that Impala based El Camino had potential. Thank you for sharing...

I must say the photos are quite nice and the story behind them make it better! Thank you for sharing.. Waiting for the rest..

I saw it.. That was very nice and impressive. That is the kind of stuff dreams are made of...

Well.. at least Buick is starting to catch on with younger buyers and the people Buick and GM wants to make them hip again.. Change is slow, but it is coming..

That is something else. The front end is similar to Malibu. Whatever it is, it is two door.

From another website... This is why you will not get the Park Avenue: The main reason the Park Avenue is not coming to the U.S is due to content and features. As it was, the folks at PATAC (the Pan Asia Technical Automotive Center that GM runs with SAIC; they've worked in cooperation with GMDAT for products in the Chinese market) redesigned portions of the Commodore/Statesman's interior with added glitz and style to make a real high-luxury/chauffeur-style vehicle. With so much extra equipment and features (like massaging seats) and feature-devices a Park Avenue with the 3.6L would come close to $50,250-$64,468 to sell in the US --- effectively running the big Buick into Caddy's territory and making a difficult marketing problem to convince customers to buy a Buick priced so high (think VW pushing Phaetons on US customers at huge prices; not gonna fly)( no pun intended Flybrian). Plus add in the expenses of U.S compliance, tier 2 bin 5 emissions (the Park Avenue is only Euro3), and shipping across the Pacific --- and it gets considerably more expensive and unlikely to happen. The only way you could get it under $45,000 is if you de-content/stripped down so much to where it becomes lame...which would probably be met with howls of protest from folks like us. Also even if the Enclave does well in the mid to high $30's and GM goes on to price the Next Lucerne at starting around $36,000, it will not go over $45,000 as to not encroach on Caddy and also to keep Buick as “affordable” luxury. For this reason, in the U.S. market, the next Lucerne will NOT have some of the features that the current Chinese-market Park Avenue has like massaging seats, rear seats with tables, controls in the arm rest, etc.

Congrats!! Enjoy your new purchase..

If this should go into production, those other concepts look more Riviera than the actual one. I am sure that they would use more of that too.. Those drawings are quite nice and fantastic. The only thing that is sad to me is how the Chinese Buick designers know Buick more than the American GM designers do. That car says "Riviera".

Griffon and VenSeattle are both right. Several issues at play: UAW. They would be offended if this car was not built here. The Buick Dealers. They are having a hard time already and they need more than Enclave. The Saturn Aura, G6, Malibu. They are Vectra sized cars and stable mates. GM figures Buick has LaCrosse. Too many GM divisions are fighting for pieces of the pie.

To me the true touring sedan was the 1987-1993 Ninety Eight Touring Sedan. I almost bought one for my second car. I saw no point in having two Ninety Eights in the end... That is why I went with a touring coupe.. A Toronado with a bench seat. I admit I did look at the Aurora and the Intrigue too, but I still find analog gauges dreadful and boring and I did not want to compromise too much.

Thank for posting, but it was posted earlier in current cars: http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...showtopic=16905

Oldsmobile and GM would have come to their senses and called it Cutlass and offered a bench seat on the base model and called it Cutlass S.

They are trying to capture historical Buick cues with this car. I see them. The front is based on 1979-1993 Rivieras with the bold water fall grille. The rear and side scuplting is a modern interpretation of the boattail Rivieras. Grille: The rear and side sculpting:

I am glad you enjoyed your experiences in those cars..

I thought that too. It may be the hazard warning control.

You are most welcome.

Hi res photos: from: carconnection.com

That was classic!! Rick Wagoner said no brand is sacred. They have invested heavily in bring Opels here. If this brand was Oldsmobile, they could sell those cars, they could have brought the Holden Caprice here too on top of that. Oldsmobile maybe would have had a full sized car, a mid sized car and more. Who knows.. Bob Lutz said if this does not work, they do not know what to do with Saturn. It would not be too hard to change the cars to Oldsmobiles. the grilles are almost there any way and so are the tail lamps. Astra would have to go to Pontiac or Chevy.

This 1980's commercial symbolizes what Buick is in China. This is the way people want Buick to be in America again. I am referring to the song in the commercial not the car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9mptYFDT0M Interesting concept. It is called Riviera?? Wow.. Why doesn't American GM put the old names on the cars and back them up with style and substance like Buick China? They have LaCrosse and Regal and now Park Avenue. I wonder if they are getting Enclave there too... GM is up to something and not just with Buick. This is getting very interesting..

After what has been said here and at GM Inside News and then Jalopnik got wind of the Park Avenue thing and did a story too, I know someone will be listening. The story: http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/question-of-...-you-251749.php Watch what happens next.. You think that whole Chinese Buick Park Avenue thing upset people.. Since they will not be updating or replacing the minivan, watch Buick China get the Enclave to replace GL8 and redo the interior and upset people here again.

Comparison: 2008 Buick Park Avenue interior: 2008 Lucerne Super interior: 2008 LaCrosse Interior: 2008 Buick Park Avenue exterior: 2008 Buick Lucerne exterior: 2008 Buick LaCrosse front shot: 2008 Buick Park Avenue front shot: 2008 LaCrosse interior seats: 2008 Buick Park Avenue interior seats: 2008 Buick LaCrosse center stack: 2008 Buick Park Avenue center stack: