A Horse With No Name

Things will be very, very different three or four years from now in the automotive sector. I wonder what will happen with Lexus? Chris

I really think and hope your right. To me, the Camaro is one of the neatest designs to come out in a long time. The short deck, long hood, and spanked roofline.... Chris

I actually like the Genesis BETTER than the G37, thank you very much....and yes I realize the G37 is more "polished" but.... Chris

...it may do just fine...but IMHO it is still second fiddle to the Camaro. One interesting thing...I wonder if some groups of people will be put OFF by the retro styling of the Camaro. Asian people who identify with asian products for one...younger people who don't remember the first gen Camaro's for another? Just thinking out loud... Chris

The sunburst orange looks soooo goood also. Good luck with wherever you and the BF end up. Back on the Honda end of things...I think they have killed their fun to drive thing. The older cars (Prelude, older Accords, Civic Si's et al) were decent handling and driving cars. The only "new" Honda I'd even remotely consider is the Civic Si and Honda pretty much killed the steering on the latest Si, it just doesn't have the feedback of the earlier cars. I liked the previous gen Fit, but hate the restyle the more I look at it. And IMHO the new Accord is "dumbed down" in the way it drives. If I want a Buick, I want a proper Buick dammit, not a pretender to the throne. The only Japanese car company I like is Mazda...although the 370Z is growing on me. Chris

The product may be wrong, on that I would agree with you. However, I do think that Hyundai does really well in promoting their products, so I am interested to see whee this ends up. Chris

The newer Avalanche without the plastic body cladding looks much better, IMHO. Your going to kill me for this, but I think the Avi looks good in the bright yellow they offered it in a few years ago. Chris

The 4 speed probably isn't as smooth as the CTS auto either, is it? Chris

I would agree. Lexus seems just so ungodly bland to me. Chris

...wasn't it one of the guys from Top Gear who said that driving a Lexus was like sitting in a vat of wallpapaer paste? Sounds like you had a similar experience. Chris

Not real impressed with the CRV. One of my wife's friends replaced an Astro Van with a CRV, to me the Astro was a better vehicle and it wasn't one of GM's better efforts. Be interesting to see what you wind up with when you wind up wherever your going to wind up. Chris

...but Cavi's do make great winter beaters. My friend Matt used one as a winter beater for years...that car would run through anything! Chris

I had friends with each when I was younger. Both were pretty decent little vehicles. Personally, I'm kind of odd when it comes to pick-em ups. I like Ranchero's and Camino's, I love the realy small trucks and the one ton dually's....but find a basic half ton two wheel drive truck to be about worthless and unappealing. That is unless it's a classic...right now I am thinking about a 66 Chevy Shorbed stepside I saw for sale... Chris

I would agree. Chris

Thinking like a car buyer for a second... Let's not forget aboput resale. Hyundai has terrible resale, while the Camaro (or the WRX I just mentioned) has a fan base and should have really decent resale. Chris

I agree with the direction I think your going. For the import crowd, it is kinda really going the wrong direction. For not alot more scratch you can get a WRX, which is a real performance car. Why you would buy a Genesis when you could have a WRX is beyond me. The WRX is just so much more car, as is the Camaro. Chris

Off topic, but did Hummer ever build an H3 SUT? Chris

Camaro could be quite the car for the daughter. Should attract quite a bit of male attention, which could be either good or bad. Chris

Seriously, if the doors rust out 5 years from now, the rest of the car is prob. not far behind. It's a Cavi...get your use out of it and move on to a Cruze or an HHR. Your wife and your son will enjoy the upgrade in a few years. Chris

It's well done I think...but I still like the Camaro better. Which is strange, because if it were 1968 and I were buying a GM pony car methinks a Firebird 400 would wind up in my driveway over an SS 396 Camaro. Chris

A Traverse based Camino would be interesting... Chris

...and actually, I welcome competition for the new Camaro. Competition equals controversy which seems to equal interest from people. To me the Camaro shoudl more than hold its own. I was amazed to see that they were only a point or two apart in the comparo. Chris

Not just yes but hell yes... Chris

POR...good stuff. That and move to Alabama and you should be all set. Didn't you say something about needing to move because your neighborhood was rough? Here's your excuse. I think I hear Birmingham calling... Chris

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