A Horse With No Name

They really do it for me, though. Tell us more about what older Pontiacs you are thinking about...inquiring minds wish to know... Chris

An SS panel would be awesome! Chris

An HHR would be a nice choice. Chris

Actually I like the interior of the Camaro much better. The Hyundai interior is terrible. Chris

The Kammback shape of the Prius/insight is very efficient, however...they could do a lot more with the basic shjape. Chris

...more than bankruptcy I just want a cure. I grew up around GM people worried about the company in the 1970's and 1980's...and I just want them to be healthy financially. Chris

I would agree with you on the honest money thing. The only way to have a truely free market is to have honest money. Chris

I remember well a dark green 70ish Firebird making runs out at National Tral Raceway with a 428. There's a yellow 69 Firebird that I've seen run out there that I think runs a 428IIRC...or maybe its a 400 but methinks its a 428. Chris

Oh, and it's an import but a good friend of mine is thinking about buying this. If he doesn't, and I could come up with the cash.... http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8481 I'm dreaming, yes...but I like it. It would make a nice addition to my garage. Chris

IMHO the best jobs are blue collar. I had a nice Cutlass when I was your age... Chris

That 14.1 is impressive! Chris

Me, I'd be buying the 300 if I were you, DF. Chris

I'm a poor blue collar worker also. It was the blue collar boys who bought Z-28's, GTO's, Mach One Mustangs, Chevelles, et al back in the day. Don't ever let them give you $h!, 68.... Chris :camarosmile:

If I had 65k to blow on a car, one would be in my driveway fo sho....unless I could come up with the extra cash for a Z-06. Chris

I think the government has a real place in public life. To me, if you want to see a country without much government oversight, look at say, Somolia. However, I believe that the government should be smaller than it is now, and I believe regulations sould be simple and apply to everyone. I do think that we are heading in the wrong direction on this, big time. The Japanese government and the German government each help their auto industry without this level of meddling, for instance. Chris

...just get the HD version if you want to bring home a bag of dog food for Arkus in the bed, tho.... Chris

No, Camino, it just isn't. Remember the Trabant, that Eastern European P.O.S. that everyone east of the Iron curtain drove? Rumor has it that they are going to build a pick-em up based on a passenger car in the reshaped GM. Running prototypes have been spotted with the three cylender from the previous Chevrolet Metro model. The new vehicle is said to resemble the Trabant in size, quality, and labor arrangements. See, Camino, you really CAN get what you want from the new GM! Chris

I wouldn't forget that either. Chris

It's always sad to think of a nice old Pontiac going to the crusher. I had a co worker once who wold a nice 65 GTO to an idiot who totaled it. oh well...making the world safe for the Yaris and the Versa, I guess. Chris

Interesting Pontiac GP link... http://www.classicalpontiac.com/gp/index.html 272 Hursts for 70, 157 for 71, 60 for 72. Not a high production automobile. The production figures for Manual tranny cars were very low. I also really liked the 65 Pontiac Grand Prix. Chris

...boys...let's not just make it horsepower...let's make it GM horsepower... BTW, how is the wagon, Camino? Chris

...although I have seen several Olds 72 Pace car copes (and 1970, as well) W the Hurst package...Damn...Camino it seems like I remember an actual Hurst GP from a car show in my childhood or teen years somewhere. Chris

I recall the hurst as well. It just seemed odd to me that Pontiac would build a solid lifter 400 HO when a 455 would have been more in keeping with the "character" of the car. Chris

I love the new Camaro, Mustang and Challenger...and wish there was a Firebird, Javelin, and Barracuda to go with them. However, I'm 43 years old, I've been a car fan since I was 6 or 7, and I've been around the older versions of these cars for say 35 years. Kinda wanting to go a different direction. But I still lust after the new Camaro. Chris

I would like to know about the performance variants of the Grand Prix...sat down next to an old man at the local Waffle House eating breakfast the other day, and we started talking cars. Turned out he was a lifelong Pontiac guy, and his favourite car had been a 71 Grand Prix with of all things a solid lifter version of the Pontiac 400. Anyone here know how rare that car was? (he sold it in 83, so I'd venture to guess its sadly no longer around)Any other specs on the 69-72 Grand Prix models that were performance oriented? The old guys former GP was cool...bright yellow with a green interior and a green vynal top. THAT color scheme says 1971, fo sho... Damn shame we don't build cars like that anymore. In some ways I feel like it was all downhill for Pontiac after the last 74 455 SD TA rolled off of the line. Chris