A Horse With No Name

I'd settle for a sedan if it was a G8, or FWD for a MINI Cooper S or Cobalt SS. )Or perhaps a VW TDI. But yeah, I can look at a whole parking lot of modern cars and see nothing that I'd want to own. Chris

Hijack/rant I love some VW's, but let's hope it's decades before you have to remember these two cars again. The more I study or get to know other carmakers, the more I like GM. I kept seeing Volkswagen Cabriolet Ragtops in the local pick-n-pull. Asked the guys in the VW club why so many nice Cabrolet's were being scraped. The answer-Volkswagen can't build an autotrajic tranny to save itself, and the rebuild is very costly, so people scrap the cars. GM, of course, has been building world class automatics for decades. I think I've come to the conclusion that, as aratio of cars sold, GM has far fewer skeletons in its closet than any other carmaker. End of hijack/rant. Chris

Saw a nice white 66 Ford Falaxie 500 two door hardtop (Wimbledon white, NICE shape) in Tennessee driving down to see my parents in North Carolina. Chris

Carbiz, a bicycle makes perfect sense in a -30 degree Toronto winter. Your just not being creative enough in your thinking. The Lunacy of our leaders knows no end. But look at the bright side, we already have the engeneering done for the Trabant, and GM should be able to knock these out and sell them at a price all of the people working at fast food and lawncars jobs can afford. See, there is a rational plan... Chris

Not hijack...the GM A bodies from about 64-77 and the G body cars from 78-87 were about the best they ever built. May they rest in peace... Chris

...I'm really wondering if there isn't a future for me as a biker or walker if the present trend continues. Seriously. If GM goes and the Accord/Camry/Altima type V6 jellybean car is all that is left, I'm getting a bike. Chris

I would have the Cobalt SS. Already I'm scared that they will shut down the Solstice/Sky which is the GM car I most want right now...but at 300 units a month, it's not enough to keep any assembly lines rolling. BTW, I wonder how long it took to build the 300 53 Corvettes. ...and I agree about the Camaro individuality thing. I love it but would rather have the Cobalt SS/Sky/Solstice. It's a shame that the Astra has turned out to be such a dud, one of the best cars GM ever brought out in the North American marketplace. Chris

Mine too...but I agree, nothing good is going to come of this. Our C and G April fools thread about GM closing North American operations seemed like a farfetched fantasy to me when we posted it back in April. A lot has changed in seven months. Chris

This is what scares me. All of the import brands are working on development and refreshes, and GM, Ford, and Chrysler are kinda treading water. Until we can be profitable enough to do R and D and catch up, all we are doing is treading water and putting off the inevitable. Sadly, my family on my mohters side loved Hudson in the 50's and on my fathers side loved Studebaker in the 50's. I think that 50 years later we may well deal with the death of other car lines we love.. Chris

+1 Chris

Me too... Chris

GM has pretty much been the king of nice, midsized cars. I remember when cars like that used to rule the road. Much nicer than the jellybean cars of today. Nice work Camino! Chris

I would agree. The VW is kinda a soulful car, and not a crap-box like an average Toyota. Still want a GTI even with meyershifts problems...like I said I think it is a slave cylender and will be easily fixable. Chris

Wow, in that shade of blue...I'm pretty much tapped out at 22-24k for my next car, but if I could find a V6 G8 in that color for the mid twenties, I'd be tempted. I'd love to have that in my driveway. Chris

I hate to sound like a troll myself, but both the Infinity and Maxima are really bland IMHO. Chris

I could go for the heated seats, and I love the color combo! Chris

A very good point, she sells chevy's! Chris

Hell, in the USA today wednesday they were talking about the Detroit Lions and why they were loosing in football. There was then a picture of an Edsel and a comment about the auto exec's asking for a bailout. WTF does a 50 year old car have to do with a loosing football team? Although I will admit I actually feel bad for Michigan and how badly they lost to Ohio State. I would have liked a close game much better. Chris

Actually, Camino you make an excellent point about Pontiac products and BMW products hitting the same "sweet spot" in driving enjoyment. Out on the road, they really, really do. But then I'm not a brand snob. Chris

But for those of us who want a premium, performance oriented small car its a great choice. Chris

The whole vehicle seems to have a very high quality feel to it. Like I said, this is when I knew GM was coming "back" Chris

Beautiful! Chris

In its own way, the SSR was a nice product. It just kinda missed the market. Too heavy, too fuel inefficient, and not a real truck. I didn't like them at all when they first came out, but they ahve grown on me over time. One of our local Chevrolet dealers, BobMcDorman Chevrolet, has a couple of the first 10 SSR's built, and IIRC they both are purple or dark blue. It's been a few years since I've seen them. This (SSR) was one of the first vehicles that convinced me GM might really be on the right track, because once I got over my initial dislike of the SSR I began to see that it was built to a really decently high standard of fit and finish, and that GM had put a lot of passion into it. My fav. SSR moment is the GM ad where they run the SSR up onto the car carrier backwards after doing a 180. Chris

God will smite you...but only if you don't buy a Jesus thong. Chris

...the BMW, the Impreza, and the Pontiac are all wildly different cars. I'd love to have an old BMW 2002 for vintage racing, a WRX for Rallycross, and a Pontiac G8 for a family car. Right now I can't afford any of the above, but the point I think is clear-each car has to stand or fall on its own merits. And while I obvoisly have no hesitation at having a subie or bimmer in the garage, I think the G8 is the coolest of the bunch. Unless SMK can point to some real fault in the G8, I think my earlier point is still valid-people usually bash cars over the internet because they can't afford them. Just my two cents. Chris/66