Robert Hall

Here we go again..

Wasn't the Nissan Versa or Hyundai Accent around $10k?

Finally had time to read this...good write up, some good points. Things have definitely changed in the 20 years since I was 21...I couldn't imagine growing up w/o a car and the freedom to go out and explore..

One other important detail was the Electrovair was just a enginnering experiment, a prototype..not a production car. The Spark EV is going to be the real deal.

Maybe some platform development cost sharing for future Opel/Vauxhall models. Maybe access to factories. Not sure about the diesels, O/V already has plenty....

It has a similar greenhouse to the Optima, which is a rather handsome sedan (much nicer than the ugly Sonata, IMO). I assume it will be similar in size to the Genesis..

Someone was a Hot Wheels fan. Would have been more interesting if they had stretched the nose.

Like these on a '31? Pretty neat..they seem to pivot w/ the wheels.

I usually see them referred to as 'driving lights' more than 'fog lights'. I know w/ my Jeep I use them when driving at night when outside of a well-lit area as it is nice to be able to see the area 10-20 feet in front of the vehicle...most of my cars have had them (factory, not down w/ aftermarket lights) since 1987. Not sure if they really are effective in fog, I drive so very rarely in it.....probably 95% of my driving day or night is urban or suburban, but once in a while I'm out on the interstate at night away from the metro area and then usually use the driving lights..

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Prius sells quite well..they are ubiquitous. Pure electrics are still in their early adopter phase, will be interesting to see how they do over time.

Some people fear change.

I googled the van..found it..the '66 Electrovan, based on a Handivan. http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/gm-electrovan.htm

Interesting historical tidbit...don't think I'd heard of the electric Corvairs. Wasn't there an electric or fuel cell Chevy van in the mid '60s also?

My normal daily commute round trip is maybe 25 miles, but I like the predictability of approx 350 mile range and an abundant # of gas stations around..

Jimmie Johnson

I didn't look closely at the wheels of the green one on display at B-J last month, but they were probably 15s. Saw a green one behind a Scion iQ in traffic last week.

Chevy UK site lists them as 13s. Autoblog says the US version gets 15 inchers.

The taller height gives plenty of headroom, who knows, maybe retro-hipsters will make the tophat cool again...

Obesity is a national epidemic...the proliferation of fast food and poor diets are a major quality of life issue that needs to be addressed, but that's a topic for another forum...

Looking forward to the eventual thrilling magazine comparison tests w/ the Focus Electric, i, and Leaf...

The new dash seems to be an improvement over the current one with it's odd circular top to the center stack...

acreage

Yeah...I've heard that also..esp. with the younger crowd that don't know of the older cars..though the older ones have been featured in many movies over the years, so some have seen images of 'em..

WoW. I've only seen one of these in person, they are pretty incredible... I'd love to see one of the '59 or '60s..