Robert Hall

That interior looks like it would have been right at home in a '90s GM product (cheap gray plastic everywhere).

I don't think I saw that one..there was the blue (from the car magazines) ZR1 on display in the Chevy exhibit in the main hall, but I don't think it was the car up for auction. I did see a black Z06 w/ gray/black wheels that had the most evil exhaust note I've ever heard a Corvette make...idling and revved, it sounded like an old radial airplane engine or something..

I don't know about ethanol, though..don't E85 cars get worse mileage w/ ethanol than they do compared to gasoline? Diesel is a better answer, IMHO.

Well, Toyota has/had a Land Cruiser Colorado in Europe..

It's an Isuzu truck sourced from Thailand, with Chevy trim?

Yes, the countdown to oblivion...maybe PCS wants to be the new Roger Smith..return GM to a lineup of all-generic FWD mediocrity..

Nah..I need to get a new digital camera..we only had a couple disposable cameras, pics probably won't come out that good...

It was quite the circus..walked around for about 6 hrs, spent an hour or so sitting down watching some of the actual auctioneering. A little something for everyone, mostly '60s-70s muscle cars (massive #s of Chevelles, '67-69 Camaros, Impalas, Bel-Airs). Many, many Mopies ('68-70 Road Runners, '70-72 Cudas, Challengers, '68-70 Chargers, etc). Lots of Mustangs (incl. 2 red '69 Boss 429s) and various Shelbys.. There were quite a few '50s-60s big cars as well..the usual '57 Bel Airs, Corvettes and Thunderbirds, along with a massive '57 Roadmaster conv..a couple '59 Buicks, '59 and '60 Olds, a couple '59 Pontiacs and 4 '61 Catalinas and Bonnevilles.... Some '70s and '80s cars as well--a very clean '74 Impala sport coupe Bicentennial edition (all-white), a all-original, low-mileage '76 Caddy deVille (4dr ht, silver blue), a '75 Olds 88 convertible (lt green w/ white interior), and an '83 Olds Cutlass Supreme w/ 23k original miles (lt brown w/ brown interior). There were a bunch of the Monster Garage crap there up for auction also (a Panoz w/ an airplane engine, a Mustang lawn mower, a cut-and-shut shortened Lincoln dragster, a '90s Impala SS w/ odd mods, etc all very poorly done). Inside, amongst the automobilia vendors were hawking, Ford, GM and Honda had sizeable displays...in the GM display, there was the 50 Cent G8, a blue ZR1 (looked like the car from all the magazines), a black CTS, gray Malibu, Escalade hybrid, Tahoe hybrid, and a massive 1911 Oldsmobile touring car (with those massive wheels it was like an early Donk). At the Ford stand, they had the '08 Bullitt Mustang that I liked a lot, along with various other Mustangs and a couple of Flexes (incl. the Funkmaster Flex Flex). Outside, they had a drift exhibit w/ Mustangs. A lot of fun in sunny, warmish (65) Scottsdale... got to head back to frigid Denver this afternoon..

Chevrolet Europe: A Korean Revolution. All FWD generics, all the time. Will Chevrolet NA have the same fate?

Excellent.

???? I thought the Venza was a wagon based on the Camry..nothing like the Harrier/RX (the Highlander is related to the Harrier/RX).

Yeah, but GM's playing the same game... they have a lot more (and bigger) beasts than Toyota...(Hummers, Tahoe, Escalade, Yukon, etc).. yet they are hyping the hybrids and promising the Volt, etc...

Whatever... the downward spiral continues.

Interesting...they will probably use that platform for the next Impala also..

The new LaCrosse or Regal or whatever it's called is supposed to be on EpsyII, right? So it will likely be larger than the new Malibu?

That's a big if....who knows what form Chrysler will exist in in five years or so..

Basically, don't blame 'them'...you have to blame the American people...they want SUVs. They want vanilla FWD sedans. Very, very few want RWD V8 models..

You figure the Zeta Camaro will have a 5 year run at least... so after that, the Camaro could be Alpha or Epsilon II?

Yes, for the Challenger, that redesign is 5 years down the road.... If it lasts 5 years, like the original, that will be great. They don't need to continue it beyond 5 years....

Agreed..Nova is the only historical small Chevy name that still would work, I think..

Hmmm...if they do build a Alpha for Chevy, maybe it could be named Chevette, Vega, or Nova!

You forgot the 4Runner. The Venza is not an SUV, it's a wagon...kind of like the Taurus X. It's no different from Ford--look how many SUVs and crossovers they have.

The pics I've seen of the concept and production prototypes certainly look better than the 4th gen interior...remember, this is a cheap Chevy..I wouldn't expect Cadillac quality interiors...

Yes, Hyundai has gone and built a better Buick...while Buick sedans are still stuck in the mid '90s...

I think the Camaro will do better with the under 35 crowd and the Challenger better with the over 45 Baby Boomers. Being between those two ranges, I find both appealing, along the Mustang.