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    2016 BMW X1 - The First Front-Wheel Drive BMW For the U.S.


    • When BMW Goes FWD For The U.S.


    BMW has pulled the covers off the 2016 X1 crossover that will go on sale this fall in the U.S. While the X1 was sold in other markets since 2009, it only came to the U.S. in 2012.

     

    Lets talk about the elephant in the room. This is the first BMW to be sold in the U.S. to be based on the German automaker's UKL platform that underpins the new MINI Cooper and other BMW vehicles sold in Europe. Our X1 will only come in all-wheel drive form.

     

    Power will come from the 2.0L TwinPower Turbo four-cylinder generating 228 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque. An eight-speed automatic gets the power to all four wheels.

     

    The design is heavily influenced by the X5 with a similar shape and distinctive character line running through the door handles. Inside is completely changed with a center stack that is in line with current BMWs - including a large screen ranging from 6.5 to 8-inches. Passengers will notice an increase in head and legroom.

     

    No word on pricing at this time.

     

    Source: BMW

     

     

    Press Release is on Page 2


     

    Woodcliff Lake, N.J. – EMBARGO: June 2, 2015 – 6:00pm EDT/3:00pm PDT… Today, BMW announced the all-new BMW X1 Sports Activity Vehicle. In its second generation, the new MY 2016 BMW X1 builds on the success of its predecessor (61,974 sold in the US to date) by incorporating a roomier interior, greater efficiency and technology on the forefront of innovation. The second generation takes to the stage with a body design typical of a BMW Sports Activity Vehicle. The BMW X1 xDrive28i will be the exclusive model in the US at launch featuring a 2.0-liter TwinTurbo 4-cylinder engine from BMW’s new family of modular engines with maximum output of 228 horsepower, making the all new BMW X1 the most powerful entry model in the segment. It will be mounted to an 8-speed Steptronic automatic transmission. An efficiency-optimized version of the BMW xDrive intelligent all-wheel-drive system and newly developed chassis technology all help to enhance sporting ability and ride comfort compared to the outgoing model. The all new BMW X1 also showcases its exceptional versatility with increased cargo area and greater interior room with more headroom than before. The 2016 BMW X1 xDrive28i will arrive in US showrooms in Fall 2015.

     

    Its cutting-edge premium ambience and functionality ensure the BMW X1 will stay ahead of the competition. Alongside its market-leading dynamics and efficiency, a host of innovative equipment features also help to secure the all new BMW X1 position in the class. Among the items on the options list are full-LED adaptive headlights, BMW Head-Up Display and Driver Assistance Plus.

     

    Greatest interior roominess and versatility in its class
    The all new BMW X1 is defined by its cutting-edge vehicle concept and advancements in the areas of functionality, safety and comfort. This multitalented model not only boasts more space for passengers and luggage, it also offers additional flexibility when it comes to utilizing its load-carrying capacity. Extensive standard equipment and numerous attractive options underline the premium character of the compact BMW Sports Activity Vehicle.

     

    Merging functionality and versatility, the BMW X1 is the roomiest vehicle in its class. The overall interior room and comfort of the all new BMW X1 treat passengers to additional head and legroom. The horizontal surface design in the interior, create generous levels of space and an ambience typical of a BMW Sports Activity Vehicle. Power front seats are now standard and provide a seating position raised by more than one inch in the front and more than 2.5 inches in the rear when compared to its predecessor. Leg room in the rear has increased by 1.5 inches in standard specification and by up to 2.6 inches with the optionally adjustable rear seat while accessible storage areas like the compartment in front of the shifter emphasize the versatile character of all new BMW X1.

     

    The driver focused cockpit and generously sized surfaces define the interior of the new BMW X1 as a classic Sports Activity Vehicle. The flat surfaces of the instrument panel and center console controls all angled towards the driver aim to help and maintain control over the surroundings at all times regardless of changing road conditions
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    The rear seatback can be split 40:20:40, with the three sections folding down individually or jointly. An optional sliding and reclining rear bench with individual elements that can slide forward or back by up to five inches allowing seating comfort and storage capacity to be adjusted even more precisely. The tilt angle for the rear-seat backrest can also be adjusted when fitted with the optional equipment seats and ranges from 31 degrees all the way to a near-vertical cargo position of 1 degree. A power-folding feature enables the rear seats to be folded at the touch of a button inside the luggage compartment. Cargo space has been increased by more than 15 percent (based on European measurements) allowing plenty of storage practicality.

     

    The standard automatic tailgate operation makes using the X1’s load-carrying capacity even easier, and Comfort Access, offered as part of the Premium Package also includes a hands-free tailgate opening and closing function.

     

    The passenger compartment of the all new BMW X1 has large door pockets and offers a selection of smaller storage areas. A storage compartment is integrated into the instrument panel on the driver’s side. Positioned in front of the gearshift selector lever in the center console beneath a sliding cover are two cupholders. The front armrest for the driver and front passenger includes an integrated storage compartment. The standard storage package includes features such as nets in the backrest of the driver and the front passenger seat and a central armrest with cupholders for the rear adding to the new X1’s storage offerings. Safe transportation of goods is assured with a strap and net in the trunk.

     

    Attractive equipment variants and exclusive comfort-enhancing options
    Customers can choose between two non-metallic and nine metallic exterior paint finishes, allowing them to tailor their new BMW X1 to their individual tastes. Estoril Blue metallic is exclusively offered in combination with the M Sport package. Mirroring brand specific characteristics, the new BMW X1 offers a broad range of individualization. The M Sport package, available later this year, provides a sportier, quicker and slicker look and feel thanks to the 8-speed Sport Automatic transmission featuring steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters supported by M Steering Wheel and M Sport suspension and Sport Seats.

     

    The Premium Package highlights once more BMW core attributes achieving an even higher look and feel of quality. The optional panoramic moonroof, increased in size compared to the outgoing model, underlines the roominess of the vehicle’s interior whereas the full LED headlights, both available with the Premium Package, highlight a strong and powerful stance on the road.

     

    Standard equipment also includes front fog-lamps, alarm with remote-controlled central locking and keyless engine ignition, electric window controls, electrically adjustable and heated exterior mirrors, a multifunction leather steering wheel adjustable for height and reach, a rain sensor including automatic headlight control and Dynamic Cruise Control.

     

    Commanding presence, robust proportions, dynamic lines
    The signature BMW X model design cues shape the all new BMW X1, while the height has been increased by an additional 1.7 inches, for a robust stance in all driving situations. The large, upright BMW kidney grille, lower air intake done in three sections and characteristic “six-eyed” looked formed by the twin round headlights and fog lamps give the new BMW X1 its distinctive face. Emphasizing the bold look of the new BMW X1, LED Daytime Running Lights are now standard with LED headlights available in conjunction with the Premium Package.

     

    Flared wheel arches and lines converge in an X-shape into the kidney grille, contributing to the authoritative presence of the new BMW X1. Black borders on the lower edge of the body, the square contour of the wheel cutouts and the generous volume of the surfaces above them, all underline the solid statute of the compact BMW X-models. The center of the new BMW X1’s rear apron rises up significantly, mimicking the characteristic element of the front design. Their flat outline emphasizes the width of the rear end, with the vertically arranged black aeroblades which perfectly mirrors the roof spoiler, adding sporting accents.

     

    The all new BMW X1 offers standard 18-inch run-flat all-season tires with non-run-flat all seasons and a space saver spare available as a no-cost option for the first time. Our sport oriented customers can chose 19-inch run-flat performance tires as optional equipment.

     

    The interior offers harmonious balance between driver focus and elegance befitting the classic style of a BMW Sports Activity Vehicle. The flat surfaces of the instrument panel and center console controls angled towards the driver providing great overview inside and outside the vehicle. The controls located in the lower section of the center console are surrounded by high-quality surfaces and are with a newly designed trim accent bar. The instrument cluster, consisting of two circular instruments and framed by a small binnacle, also helps the driver to focus on driving.

     

    The iDrive operating system’s Control Display comes in the form of a high resolution 6.5-inch or, optionally, 8.8-inch freestanding monitor. The interior trim accent and air vents are surrounded by an interior trim spanning the full width of the instrument panel. The interior trim and accent strip extend through the door panel trim, with the effect that occupants in all seats are surrounded by premium surfaces with a uniform material and color structure.

     

    Other standard interior features include: Power front seats with driver-side memory, Anthracite headliner, storage package and multifunction sport leather steering wheel. Standard equipment for the new BMW X1 also includes an all-new SensaTec seat surface available in both Black and Canberra Beige and a Black high-gloss interior trim with Pearl chrome accent strips. Perforated Dakota leather trim is available in Black, Canberra Beige, Mocha, and Oyster as are interior Brushed Aluminum and fine-wood matt Oak Grain and Fineline Stream interior trims.

     

    The standard sound system with 7 loudspeakers provides high quality audio. The optional Harman Kardon HiFi system, complete with 12 loudspeakers and a digital amplifier with 360-watt output, provide an outstanding audio experience while on the road.

     

    Powertrain and driving experience
    The second generation BMW X1 uses an all-new powertrain and chassis technology to build systematically on the compact BMW X model’s versatile sporting ability in its segment. The newly developed chassis technology, which ensures not only precisely controllable handling, but also noticeably improved ride comfort is another key factor that further enhances agility on the all new BMW X1. Together with the car’s low center of gravity, a wide track, short overhangs, optimized weight and the impressive rigidity of the body and chassis, all contribute to lay the foundation for a driving experience familiar to BMW drivers but without parallel in the class.

     

    Highest power in it’s class
    The all new BMW X1 will be available from launch with an all-new 2.0-liter BMW TwinPower Turbo engine featuring a twin-tailpipe design that draws further attention to the sporty character of the all new BMW X1. The BMW X1 xDrive28i features BMW’s new modular BMW EfficientDynamics engine, a 2.0-liter TwinPower Turbo 4-cylinder unit with a TwinScroll turbocharger, High Precision Injection, VALVETRONIC fully variable valve lift, and Double-VANOS variable camshaft timing. This powerful engine develops 228 hp at 5,000 rpm, representing the highest power output in the entry model class and thanks to BMW’s EfficientDynamics technology. The peak torque of 258 lb-ft, which is available between 1,250 rpm and 4,500 rpm ensures once again that the driving torque is effortlessly and instantly delivered for a dynamic and agile driving experience. Its instantaneous pulling power enables acceleration of 0 to 60 mph in 6.3 seconds. The new BMW X1 xDrive28i CO2 emissions stand at 152– 49 grams per kilometer (in the EU test cycle, depending on the tire format specified). US EPA mileage estimates will be available closer to launch.

     

    Flexible, quick to respond and more efficient than ever: the xDrive intelligent all-wheel-drive system in the new BMW X1
    The compact, low-weight and efficient all-wheel-drive system distributes the engine’s power between the front and rear axle exactly as the situation requires – at all times. Working closely with DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) allows the system to act preemptively to counteract any tendency on the car’s towards oversteer or understeer. The BMW xDrive system therefore ensures excellent traction, optimized directional stability and enhanced cornering dynamics in all weather and road conditions. Furthermore, the combination of the DSC system and xDrive also includes Hill Descent Control.

     

    The xDrive system of the all new BMW X1 consists of a single-speed bevel gear and a rear-axle drive unit with an electrohydraulically controlled multi-plate clutch than controls longitudinal torque distribution. The two are connected by a two-piece drive shaft. When required, the multi-plate clutch – with the help of an electrohydraulic pump – diverts up to 100 percent of the engine’s power to the rear wheels. It does so in less than 250 ms and unnoticed by the driver. The DSC system keeps the pump’s control unit constantly supplied with important data for analyzing the driving situation. The data includes the vehicle’s speed, lateral and longitudinal acceleration, steering lock, wheel-speed, pitch, accelerator position and the Driving Dynamic Control and DSC settings. This information is used to determine – and instantly generate – the ideal power split between the front and rear wheels, seamlessly and flexibly.

     

    A recipe for enthralling agility: sophisticated chassis technology
    The chassis technology of the original X1 has been totally redeveloped for the new model with aluminum wheel hubs, as well as axle carriers and control arms made from high-strength steel, reduce weight and increase the rigidity of the front axle, which in turn helps to ensure an agile turn-in response and direction-changing precision. The rear axle also employs a high proportion of high-strength steels. Tube-shaped anti-roll bars at the front and rear axle, innovative axle mounting and specially tuned elastokinematics contribute to the agility and ride comfort of the all new BMW X1, as do the connection of the dampers to the body via sophisticated three-way support mounts.

     

    The all new BMW X1 is equipped with standard Servotronic speed-sensitive steering assistance. This system allows parking and turning maneuvers to be completed safely and comfortably with little steering effort, and at higher speeds drivers can also benefit from steering precision and straight line stability as the steering effort is increased just the right amount.

     

    The Driving Dynamic Control switch on the center console allows the driver to give the car’s set-up an even sportier, more comfort-oriented or efficiency-optimized character. Calling up COMFORT, SPORT or ECO PRO mode at the touch of a button adapts the responses of the accelerator pedal and steering as well as shift characteristics of the automatic transmission are also adjusted if the relevant equipment has been specified.

     

    The Dynamic Stability Control stability system includes features such as the Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), Dynamic Traction Control (DTC), Cornering Brake Control (CBC), Dynamic Brake Control (DBC), Brake Assist system, Brake Fade Compensation, Brake Drying Braking and Start-Off Assistant and Performance Control. When DSC is deactivated, an electronic locking function for the front axle differential – known as Electronic Differential Lock Control (EDLC) – comes into play. In tight corners the system brakes a spinning wheel as required and ensures power is diverted to the other wheel.

     

    The enhanced functional effectiveness of all powertrain components, intelligent energy management, the rigorous application of BMW Lightweight technology and far-reaching measures designed to optimize aerodynamics all play a role in enhancing the efficiency of the all new, second generation BMW X1. The innovations developed under the BMW EfficientDynamics umbrella delivers greater driving pleasure.

     

    Optimized exterior design
    The all new BMW X1 also has smooth underbody paneling, air deflectors on the front wheel arches and vertical aeroblades, which form a unit with the roof spoiler to channel the airflow around the rear of the car to best effect. The Air Curtains integrated into the outer air intakes channel the onrushing air precisely behind the front fenders causing it to hang over the wheels like a curtain and thus reduce turbulence.

     

    Engine, gearbox and BMW xDrive: lower weight, improved efficiency
    The engine in the BMW X1 xDrive28i benefits from the latest incarnation of BMW TwinPower Turbo technology with TwinScroll turbocharger and the most recently updated generation of VALVETRONIC. This latest 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine incorporates aluminum crankcase and cylinder head, forged steel crankshafts with an integrated balance shaft drive, low-weight pistons, forged connecting rods, friction-reduced cylinder coatings and map-controlled oil pumps.

     

    With the reduced weight and enhanced internal efficiency, the new 8-speed Steptronic transmission also helps to optimize efficiency. The reduced converter slip of the new automatic transmission cuts energy losses, and its wider gear spread keeps revs lower at higher vehicle speeds contributing to the reduced emissions.

     

    The BMW xDrive intelligent all-wheel-drive system developed for the new BMW X1 is considerably lighter with powertrain losses that are reduced by 30 percent in normal driving situations .The improved functional effectiveness of the new rear differential also helps to deliver a particularly efficient all-wheel-drive experience.

     

    Intelligent energy management, ECO PRO mode with coasting function
    The BMW EfficientDynamics technology employed in the new BMW X1 includes intelligent energy management. Brake Energy Regeneration enables extremely efficient power generation for the on-board power supply. The Electric Power Steering and on-demand fuel and coolant pumps work with maximum efficiency.

     

    ECO PRO mode – activated via the Driving Dynamics Control switch – also allows drivers of new BMW X1 to make use of the coasting function. At speeds between 30-100 mph, the powertrain is disengaged when the driver takes his or her foot off the accelerator. Further efficiency gains have been achieved with items including reduced-friction wheel bearings.

     

    BMW EfficientLightweight technology ensuring efficiency
    The enhanced functional effectiveness of all powertrain components, intelligent energy management, BMW Lightweight technology and measures designed to optimize aerodynamics all play a role in ensuring that the new BMW X1 it is significantly more efficient. The innovations developed under the BMW EfficientDynamics banner form an overall package that delivers greater and more efficient driving pleasure.

     

    An intelligent mix of materials for the body structure and chassis components of the new BMW X1 allows increased agility, lower vibrations and enhanced safety to be combined with optimized vehicle weight. The targeted use of hot-stamped, high and ultra-high tensile steels reduces the weight of the X1 yet also significantly improves torsional rigidity and strength. Contributing to the Lightweight construction of the BMW X1, components like the hood, the bumper supports and wheel hubs – among other areas of the car – are made of aluminum.

     

    The weight of the chassis has been reduced by the deployment of components such as tube-shaped anti-roll bars, output shafts and damper piston rods, not to mention the increased use of aluminum. The integrated BMW EfficientLightweight concept also contains solutions for construction details, such as the production of steel with optimized material strength – in the form of tailored rolled blanks – for the front bulkhead and B-pillar support beams.

     

    BMW ConnectedDrive: Progress through intelligent connectivity
    The second generation BMW X1 also brings significant advances in the field of intelligent connectivity over its predecessor. The new selection of options designed to optimize comfort; safety and the use of infotainment functions, such as the Head-Up Display, take their cues from those available from other BMW Sports Activity Vehicles.

     

    BMW ConnectedDrive features on the new BMW X1 now include the newest BMW Head-Up Display which projects driving-related activities directly onto the windshield. The optional high-resolution 8.8-inch Control Display with touchpad controller will host BMW Online, BMW Apps, Remote Services and provide Advanced Real-Time Traffic Information. As an option, a high-resolution 6.5” screen navigation with BMW Online, BMW Apps, Remote Services, Advanced Real Time Traffic Information is also available. By adding to the functionality of the infotainment system the new BMW X1 allows for increased safety by simultaneously providing greater comfort, all based on user selection.

     

    Technology Package including BMW Head-Up Display
    The Navigation option assists route guidance on the standard Control Display with direction arrows and sophisticated map graphics, including views from various angles. With the standard multifunction steering wheel, the destination can also be entered by voice command. Another, in many respects pioneering option is the Navigation system, which comprises a bigger 8.8-inch Control Display, an instrument cluster with extended features, including a split-screen function as well as the BMW Head-Up Display. This system allows High Guidance instructions including lane recommendations to be shown in the instrument cluster’s TFT display or projected onto the windshield, as desired. The BMW Head-Up Display projects this and other information directly into the driver’s field of view, allowing him or her to register the information without having to divert their gaze from the road ahead. The graphics are displayed using the full spectrum of colors. The 8.8-inch Control Display in conjunction with the standard multifunction steering wheel destination also allow for info input by voice command.

     

    Driver Assistance Plus
    The camera-based assistance systems available for the new BMW X1 ensure greater assurance and safety in different driving situations. The Driver Assistance Plus package encompasses Lane Departure Warning, Speed Limit Info, Automatic High Beams, as well as Frontal Collision Warning with Pedestrian Warning and City Collision Mitigation. In addition to these functions, the Driver Assistance Plus package also features the Active Cruise Control system with Stop & Go function. Park Distance Control and the Rear-View Camera are part of the Driver Assistance Package that transfers images onto the Control Display, making precise and comfortable parking maneuvers that much easier. Parking Assistant is included with the Driver Assistance Package and also helps the driver to find and make use of parallel parking spaces.

     

    BMW ConnectedDrive Services and apps
    The ConnectedDrive Services option enables the use of the BMW Online internet portal via the SIM card embedded in the vehicle, as well as the integration of smartphone apps into the car. Standard features also include BMW Assist eCall and BMW Teleservices. The steadily growing selection of smartphone apps comprises web radio functions as well as the use of social network services such as Facebook and Twitter or services like Spotify, Life 360, iHeartRadio among many more.

     

    The ConnectedDrive Store offers even more flexibility. A one-time registration allows customers to adapt the range of services available to their individual needs – there and then or at a later stage. The ConnectedDrive Store is not only available on the internet but also directly in the car. The functions purchased are made available for use just minutes later.

     

    Pricing will be announced closer to launch.

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    So first we had an all-wheel drive 3 series, now a front-wheel drive X1?

     

    This feels a bit wrong, just even thinking of a BMW with a drivetrain other than rear-wheel just feels wrong.

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    Reread the story, the US market is only getting this in AWD. I think BMW has realized that  only a FWD CUV gives them a black eye. So bring AWD.

     

    I hope this pushes others to bring Torquey AWD Compact CUV's to the market. This thing should do well for them even with blending in with the X5 but smaller and an interior that clearly looks so 1990's.

     

    What is up with this really dated interior look that BMW is using. Just ugly.

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    I think this looks better than the GLA and Q3.  BMW somehow made this look both truckier and sportier than the other 2 Germans.

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    I think this looks better than the GLA and Q3.  BMW somehow made this look both truckier and sportier than the other 2 Germans.

    Nothing about how it must automatically must suck because the engine is mounted transversely?

    Does this mean you'll finally being to accept the SRX, which has been ahead of all of the Germans in sales (sometimes even in combined terms) for most of its model run?

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    I think this looks better than the GLA and Q3.  BMW somehow made this look both truckier and sportier than the other 2 Germans.

    Nothing about how it must automatically must suck because the engine is mounted transversely?

    Does this mean you'll finally being to accept the SRX, which has been ahead of all of the Germans in sales (sometimes even in combined terms) for most of its model run?

     

    I dont know you guys long enough...but if smk4565 has had issues with the Cadillac SRX being FWD and he is willing to give the BMW X1 a pass, well, that is too funny...smk4565 sounds like he is soooo much like  my snobby Euro Friendly, BMW lovin' close friends of mine...I hate BMW  since the late 1980s because of them...

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    SMK has issues with anything and everything Cadillac does. Cadillac could sneak an S-Class off a Benz lot and swap the badges out and he would suddenly have all sorts of complaints about the shape of the radio knobs to the feel of the ash tray liner, to the type of screws used to hold the radiator in place.

    He'll complain about the SRX Being FWD while extolling the virtues of the CLA and looking the other way when Audi comes up. When Mercedes models sell poorly, they're "exclusive". When Cadillac models sell poorly, "Is this the end for Cadillac?!?" The SRX outsold the X3 and GLK (sometimes combined) for years, but the SRX "sux" beause it is front wheel drive and is slightly larger outside while having the same interior room.

    The Escalade is "just a Chevy" while the G-Class is "best evar!!" exposed screwheads and all. If you're looking for a laugh, wander over to the Benz forum and find the thread on G-Class quality. I took pictures at the auto show just for SMK.

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    I think this looks better than the GLA and Q3.  BMW somehow made this look both truckier and sportier than the other 2 Germans.

    Nothing about how it must automatically must suck because the engine is mounted transversely?

    Does this mean you'll finally being to accept the SRX, which has been ahead of all of the Germans in sales (sometimes even in combined terms) for most of its model run?

     

     

    You realize you're talking to smk right?

     

    I think pigs taking flight will happen sooner than this.

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    Oh boy, a transverse-mounted engine in a BMW! The ultimate front-wheel driving machine!

     

    I wonder how this will be spun by fans once it's filtered through the BMW reality distortion field.

     

    Did BMW pilfer Hyundai's turn-of-the-decade design team to make that chintzy looking dash? And what's the deal with making infotainment screens look like tablets? Give the last-gen CTS credit, the designers had the right idea with the hideaway screen. 

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    All I said was the X1 looks better than the other 2 competitors.  The GLA interior might be a little better. 

     

    I don't like front wheel drive, but I understand why all 3 Germans offer a compact SUV in the low 30s because they want that entry level buyer.  The GLK and X3 can then start around $38k, the mid-size SUVs around $50k.

     

    My problem with the SRX is that it was RWD, and targeted against the X5 and ML, and then they made it a Lincoln MKX/Lexus RX clone.   It was counteractive to the rear wheel drive plan Cadillac was on, and said Cadillac is a Lincoln/Acura competitor, not a German competitor.  And the Cadillac brass keeps saying they are on par with the Germans.

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    Well. With this Bimmer...it looks like BMW is on par with Pontiac...

     

    Here...FWD based AWD...and in the 1980s...who woulda thunk that? (Back when BMWs were Ultimate Driving Machines...)

     

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    Oh...a small crossover FWD/AWD Pontiac from this millennium...and the X1 looks like it could be the next generation Vibe...

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    So...you understand BMW going that direction...but you dont understand why Cadillac went that direction...when BMWs were tooting their own horn by saying they are...

     

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    Gotcha...

    I aint gonna waste anymore time with that as I understand you have double standards...

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    But BMW didn't make the X5 a $35,000 front drive SUV.  Cadillac moves products around segments and change names like crazy.   There is no clear direction.   If Cadillac comes out with a new XT1 front drive crossover to compete in this segment, and makes the XT5 a CTS based $50k crossover to compete with the X5 then the product mix would make sense.  But suppose Cadillac made the next gen CTS a $36k front drive Lexus ES competitor, after 15 years of saying it is a 5-series competitor.  It wouldn't make sense.

     

    On a side note,  how badly does Cadillac want to be BMW with XT1, XT3, XT5 to compete with the X1, X3, and X5.  They need to think up some new names in Detroit, errr New York.

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    But BMW didn't make the X5 a $35,000 front drive SUV.  Cadillac moves products around segments and change names like crazy.   There is no clear direction.   If Cadillac comes out with a new XT1 front drive crossover to compete in this segment, and makes the XT5 a CTS based $50k crossover to compete with the X5 then the product mix would make sense.  But suppose Cadillac made the next gen CTS a $36k front drive Lexus ES competitor, after 15 years of saying it is a 5-series competitor.  It wouldn't make sense.

     

    On a side note,  how badly does Cadillac want to be BMW with XT1, XT3, XT5 to compete with the X1, X3, and X5.  They need to think up some new names in Detroit, errr New York.

    No...it made the X5 into a Sports ACTIVITY vehicle to brainwash the likes of you.... and then it made the X1 into a front driver to further brainwash the likes of you...

     

    So...you tell me how a BMW 325's name is logical...when its engine displacement is 3.0 liters....because I swear in the 1980s...a 318 Bimmer was named 318...because the engine size was 1.8 liters...

     

    the rest of your post is laughable...double standard idiocy...

     

    Oh...in Europe...a 3 Series Bimmer was an econobox...I dont care if you dont believe me...Ive actually been to Greece...drove those 3 Series econoboxes...in the 1980s and 1990s...and...BMW...to brainwash the fools like you in North America...they brought this lovely guy over and called it entry level luxury...

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    Crappier than a Chevrolet Cavalier form the 1980s....which reminds me...Cadillac did that in the 1980s...and called it a Cimarron...yet BMW did not learn that lesson...20 years later....the thing is...BMW played its cards right...and brainwashed many light headed Americans with their Sports ACTIVITY BS that people like you...welll...they have dumb double standards...

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    I actually don't like BMWs in terms of styling, never have.  They make good engines and suspensions, I'll give them that.  The 3-series has always been rear wheel drive, they have always had handling.  If the stuff Cadillac made in the 80s and 90s was so good, they wouldn't have been overtaken with such ease by BMW.

     

    The numbers after the 3 on a BMW are getting rather inconsistent, but engine displacements are always changing, I don't know why they don't just stick with a number.  But it is also complicated because they have two 2.0 turbo fours making different horsepower.   But at least they still call it the 3-series.

     

    I am also aware of the 80s econobox base models, the E-class taxis, the fleet cars, and whatever else the Germans sell in Europe that would be seen as poor image in the USA.  But no one has been able to go to Europe and challenge them. Not Lexus, not Infiniti, not Cadillac.  So it doesn't really matter what they do in Europe because they have the monopoly and high barriers to entry.

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    I actually don't like BMWs in terms of styling, never have.  They make good engines and suspensions, I'll give them that.  The 3-series has always been rear wheel drive, they have always had handling.  If the stuff Cadillac made in the 80s and 90s was so good, they wouldn't have been overtaken with such ease by BMW.

     

    The numbers after the 3 on a BMW are getting rather inconsistent, but engine displacements are always changing, I don't know why they don't just stick with a number.  But it is also complicated because they have two 2.0 turbo fours making different horsepower.   But at least they still call it the 3-series.

     

    I am also aware of the 80s econobox base models, the E-class taxis, the fleet cars, and whatever else the Germans sell in Europe that would be seen as poor image in the USA.  But no one has been able to go to Europe and challenge them. Not Lexus, not Infiniti, not Cadillac.  So it doesn't really matter what they do in Europe because they have the monopoly and high barriers to entry.

    I never said that Cadillac were soooo good in the 1980s....but...since you want to be a dummy regarding that...and since you want to give BMW and the Germans a pass for building crap....and you cant forgive the mere 20 years that Cadillac built crap over their 110 year history...something that BMW has not touched yet....because BMW has built crap MORE than 20 years...

     

    let us visit memory lane with a history of crappy BMWs...

     

    1930s.

    Let us not forget that Cadillac at this time was in Rolls Royce Territory and Mercedes-Benz territory with Duesenbergs...remember V16s...

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    Then War....motorcycles and airplane engines...

     

    From the 1950s...

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    1960s...

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    the 1970s...

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    Cadillac NEVER went that low even with  20 years worth of Allantes and Cimarrons and funky assed 1980s Sevilles with 8-6-4 technology at their mercy...because 8-6-4 technology is something that works today...with the help of computers...something that Cadillac engineers did not have access to in the 1980s...BMWs luxury image is only now passing the total of crappy years that Cadillac had....but somehow....you want to dismiss the 90 years worth of excellence that Cadillac has under their belt...and want to dismiss the 50 years worth of crap that BMW shoved our way....like I said...dumb double standards you have...

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

    OK...so the SRX sucks...that is more of a tit for tat argument you got going on...but whatever.

     

    lets see how BMW will make the X1 handle like an ultimate driving machine. You know...FWD...Because GM knows how to make FWD cars handle...and the Equinox and SRX aint that bad...lets see how BMW paid journalists will spin the negativity that will surround it...because...it is wrong wheel drive after all....and coming from BMW...because while some of us can huff and puff over a FWD Cadillac crossover...Cadillac jumped into the FWD pool with its Flagship Eldorado in the late 1960s...and Cadillac continued to refine FWD performance and handling waaaaay into the 2000s with their cars...so people can smirk all they want about a FWD SRX...it just shows the stupid double standards you German friendly BMW lovers have...

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

    So Dingo, Please reread the story above as this DOES NOT have the I6 but a lowly 4 banger that is transverse and being used to mostly go FWD but on slippage use the AWD system to work.

     

    Also if the SRX and Equinox suck so bad, then state facts please, do not just say it sucks unless you want to clarify it by saying some other personal pet peeve with the auto's.

     

    Please support and back up your statements with facts not just useless english words.

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    Don't mind it being FWD-based (though I still think SAAB should have been bought by BMW to take this FWD-based market and serve as a bridge between the MINI and BMW brands). What I don'ty understand is why on Earth this is X1 while the other FWD-based models are badged as 2-Series, together with RWD 2-Series coupes and convertibles...How hard is it from a marketing and branding perspective to be coherent and offer the 1 names in FWD/AWD and have the 2+ names for the RWD models?

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

    OK...so the SRX sucks...that is more of a tit for tat argument you got going on...but whatever.

     

    lets see how BMW will make the X1 handle like an ultimate driving machine. You know...FWD...Because GM knows how to make FWD cars handle...and the Equinox and SRX aint that bad...lets see how BMW paid journalists will spin the negativity that will surround it...because...it is wrong wheel drive after all....and coming from BMW...because while some of us can huff and puff over a FWD Cadillac crossover...Cadillac jumped into the FWD pool with its Flagship Eldorado in the late 1960s...and Cadillac continued to refine FWD performance and handling waaaaay into the 2000s with their cars...so people can smirk all they want about a FWD SRX...it just shows the stupid double standards you German friendly BMW lovers have...

     

     

     

    Please show me a SINGLE instance in which I have applied double standards to the vehicles/brands in question. I'll wait...

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

    So Dingo, Please reread the story above as this DOES NOT have the I6 but a lowly 4 banger that is transverse and being used to mostly go FWD but on slippage use the AWD system to work.

     

    Also if the SRX and Equinox suck so bad, then state facts please, do not just say it sucks unless you want to clarify it by saying some other personal pet peeve with the auto's.

     

    Please support and back up your statements with facts not just useless english words.

     

     

     

    I don't need to reread the story, YOU need to reread my POST.

     

    I understand this vehicle no longer will use an I6. I specifically stated 'current X1' in my post- the E84. Which is available with the N55.

     

    State facts? Okay.

     

    The interior is cheap, they're outdated, they're overpriced, and until the 3.6 got shoved in them, they were powertrain disasters. Hows that?

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

    So Dingo, Please reread the story above as this DOES NOT have the I6 but a lowly 4 banger that is transverse and being used to mostly go FWD but on slippage use the AWD system to work.

     

    Also if the SRX and Equinox suck so bad, then state facts please, do not just say it sucks unless you want to clarify it by saying some other personal pet peeve with the auto's.

     

    Please support and back up your statements with facts not just useless english words.

     

     

     

    I don't need to reread the story, YOU need to reread my POST.

     

    I understand this vehicle no longer will use an I6. I specifically stated 'current X1' in my post- the E84. Which is available with the N55.

     

    State facts? Okay.

     

    The interior is cheap, they're outdated, they're overpriced, and until the 3.6 got shoved in them, they were powertrain disasters. Hows that?

     

    Yeah..but...like you said...the SRX sucks...while the X1 is...well...BMW could do no wrong...right?

     

    Looks are subjective...and no...the X1 looks like it could be a Pontiac Vibe replacement...nothing wrong with that...but it aint "the looker" in this category...a Mazda CX-5 looks waaaaay better......but that is my opinion....but when someone makes a blanket statement about the SRX sucking...one may not take someone's opinion about a BMW's look too seriously...

     

    Underrated ride is how you want to spin things...

    Its all good...but the X1 aint exactly all that...especially when one makes a blanket statement about the competitions ride...

    Like I said...Cadillac has refined its FWD ride since the late 1960s...but we will diss the Caddy and just say the X1 has an underrated ride....yup...seems legit...

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    FWD is worse than RWD. Cadillac spent 1967-now refining the wrong drivetrain.   Once you get above 275 hp or $40,000 in price you start needing RWD to deliver the superior ride and handling and handle the extra engine power. 

     

    So far this category is the Q3, GLA and X1.  They all have a turbo 4 and all wheel drive riding on a front drive platform.  And entry lux cute-ute buyer is probably clueless about which way the engine is mounted, as long as it has awd they are happy.  There isn't a rear drive alternative in this segment, probably never will be, because on a platform this small and with 200-225 hp, you don't really need rear drive. 

     

    The SRX isn't this segment though, these SUVs are nearly Buick Encore size.  If Cadillac made a compact crossover that was FWD I wouldn't care because it would be too small a vehicle for the Alpha platform, they would have no other choice.  The SRX or soon to be XT5 is supposed to be a mid-size vehicle, thus it would fit on Alpha and it should be rwd.

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

    So Dingo, Please reread the story above as this DOES NOT have the I6 but a lowly 4 banger that is transverse and being used to mostly go FWD but on slippage use the AWD system to work.

     

    Also if the SRX and Equinox suck so bad, then state facts please, do not just say it sucks unless you want to clarify it by saying some other personal pet peeve with the auto's.

     

    Please support and back up your statements with facts not just useless english words.

     

     

     

    I don't need to reread the story, YOU need to reread my POST.

     

    I understand this vehicle no longer will use an I6. I specifically stated 'current X1' in my post- the E84. Which is available with the N55.

     

    State facts? Okay.

     

    The interior is cheap, they're outdated, they're overpriced, and until the 3.6 got shoved in them, they were powertrain disasters. Hows that?

     

    Yeah..but...like you said...the SRX sucks...while the X1 is...well...BMW could do no wrong...right?

     

    Looks are subjective...and no...the X1 looks like it could be a Pontiac Vibe replacement...nothing wrong with that...but it aint "the looker" in this category...a Mazda CX-5 looks waaaaay better......but that is my opinion....but when someone makes a blanket statement about the SRX sucking...one may not take someone's opinion about a BMW's look too seriously...

     

    Underrated ride is how you want to spin things...

    Its all good...but the X1 aint exactly all that...especially when one makes a blanket statement about the competitions ride...

    Like I said...Cadillac has refined its FWD ride since the late 1960s...but we will diss the Caddy and just say the X1 has an underrated ride....yup...seems legit...

     

     

     

    I did not say the X1 or BMW could do no wrong. Don't put words in my mouth.

     

    Looks are subjective, yes. I think it looks great, sue me. I also think the SRX looks pretty good. And I have no issue with it being on a FWD-based platform. That's not my issue with the SRX. It's virtually everything else.

     

    And yes, the X1 is underrated. All the people who lament the lack of wagons, but somehow find the F31 too soft, well, the E84 has been around since 2012. Just another case of people not putting their money where their mouth is.

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    Firstly, it looks great. The best looking crossover this size on the market, imo.

     

    That said, it sucks to see this being a casualty to the conversion to a FWD-based platform. I know it makes good business sense, but still. The current X1 is really an underrated little ride. It's essentially a slightly lifted E91. And with the 3.0 I6, it's quite the sleeper.

     

    Oh, and the SRX, like the Equinox it's based on, sucks.

    OK...so the SRX sucks...that is more of a tit for tat argument you got going on...but whatever.

     

    lets see how BMW will make the X1 handle like an ultimate driving machine. You know...FWD...Because GM knows how to make FWD cars handle...and the Equinox and SRX aint that bad...lets see how BMW paid journalists will spin the negativity that will surround it...because...it is wrong wheel drive after all....and coming from BMW...because while some of us can huff and puff over a FWD Cadillac crossover...Cadillac jumped into the FWD pool with its Flagship Eldorado in the late 1960s...and Cadillac continued to refine FWD performance and handling waaaaay into the 2000s with their cars...so people can smirk all they want about a FWD SRX...it just shows the stupid double standards you German friendly BMW lovers have...

     

     

     

    Please show me a SINGLE instance in which I have applied double standards to the vehicles/brands in question. I'll wait...

     

    You said that the SRX sucks....while saying that the X1's ride is underrated...

     

    In what way does an SRX suck? No explanation was made from you.

    In what way was the X1's ride underrated?

    No explanation was made by you...

     

    My hatred for BMWs is well documented...maybe not in these forums....but at least I ADMIT my hatred towards BMWs in THESE forums...I also have shown reasons why I hate them...in this thread and in the CSL Hommage thread....and to boot....I actually like that Hommage car....while you dont like it...

     

    What does all that mean?

    I dont know...Im just fed up of bickering like old ladies...

    Frisky, this FWD X1...it sucks....it sucks big time for us enthusiasts...what sucks even more is that BMW has lowered itself to these standards to pay the bills...because BMW was ALWAYS a NICHE car manufacturer...and niche car manufacturers...if they dont produce mainstream cars...they will go bankrupt...

     

    And THAT is another reason why I HATE BMW...no...not because BMW is a niche car maker...but because BMW guys...will always find ANY excuses to defend BMW's decisions...and failures...while OVER EVALUATING strong points and successes... 

     

    I dont hate the X1...I hate fanboys defending it...while putting down a similar offering by a competitor...

    Hate an SRX...it dont bother me...while this is true for SMK4565 and NOT you...let us not forget that besides Cord, Citroen and Oldsmobile and a nd maybe 1 or 2 more......not too many other car makers had the guts to pull off FWD before the 1970s and 1980s...and Cadillac did that with their flagship Eldorado....that would be mojo and a half right there...yet...in the 1990s and 2000s...we laughed at the STS and its platform mate...yeah...Eldorado...same lineage...that they were FWD...and we smirk that an SRX also went FWD....yet...we dont bat an eyelash for BMW...going down the FWD road...you know...ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINES!!!

     

    And...we dont bat an eyelash for a NICHE maker of Ultimate Driving Machines producing big, heavy, clunky  and clumsy SUVs...sorry...SAVs because Sports Activity Vehicles rings better for that niche market they are in...

    Oh...and big, heavy, clumsy and clunky is not only relegated to the SAVs...the 8 Series fits that bill quite nicely....and same goes for that E63/64 6 Series...which now has evolved from a 2 door coupe...into a 4 door coupe...and I hear the last gen 5 Series aint that hot either...because BMW has a history of confusion of what its cars are to be...including the M1 that you are soooo fond of...which is cool...because I like underwhelming vehicles too...at least I can admit to them being underwhelming...but not BMW fanboys...they will defend them tooth and nail...which is all good...but dont try to make me drink from that BMW kool-aid...'cause I aint buying...

     

    If...BMW fanboys were more realistic in their view of BMW...Id be drinking from the BMW koo-aid myself...

     

    Remember...I LOVE me some E31 8 Series,  E24 M 635CSi 6 Series, E34 M5s and E34 V8 5 Series,  and that famous M5 E39,  E36 M3s and E37 1Ms...

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    • By William Maley
      When I go back and look at the various Kia Optimas I have driven for Cheers & Gears, there has been one variant that I haven’t driven, the 2.0L turbo-four. But this changed back over the summer when a 2016 Kia Optima SXL came into the Cheers & Gears’ Detroit bureau for a week-long evaluation. The SXL serves as the Optima’s flagship trim with more premium materials and the turbo-four.
      As I mentioned in my Optima EX review from earlier this year, the redesigned Optima looks familiar to the previous model. But that isn’t a bad thing per say. It is still as sharp looking as the previous model and the changes done such as a new trunk lid, LED taillights, a smaller grille, and reshaped headlights. The SXL takes it a step further with a set of 18-inch alloy wheels, Turbo badging on the fender vents, and a little bit more chrome. Finished in a dark blue, the Optima SXL is damn good looking midsize sedan. You won’t find many differences in the SXL’s interior compared to other Optima’s. The key one is the seats being wrapped Nappa leather with a quilted pattern. If I am being honest, I can’t really tell difference between the Nappa leather and the standard leather used on other Kia models.  But what I can tell the difference with is the materials used in the SXL’s interior. Kia swaps the soft-touch plastic used on the dash and door panels for stitched leatherette. This is to give the impression that you’re in something more expensive and it works very well. The Optima SXL’s backseat is slightly tighter than the one found in the Optima EX. Why? The SXL comes with a panoramic sunroof as standard, which eats into headroom. Let’s talk about the engine. The SXL features a 2.0L turbocharged four-cylinder with 245 horsepower and 260 pound-feet of torque. This is paired with a six-speed automatic. Leaving a stop, it takes a moment for the engine to fully wake up and you can’t help but wonder where is the power. At first, I thought this new 2.0L developed a bad case of turbo-lag. But I soon realized that it was a lazy throttle that was causing this issue. This is something we have been noticing in recent Hyundai and Kia models equipped with the turbo engine. Once you get over the lazy throttle, the engine moves the Optima with some authority. Merging onto a freeway or making a pass is no problem as the turbo quickly spools up and gives the necessary thrust. It doesn’t hurt the engine is very refined. EPA fuel economy figures stand at 22 City/32 Highway/25 Combined. I achieved a not too shabby 26.1 mpg average for the week. One of my biggest complaints about the last Optima I drove was the uncomfortable ride. The tuning on the EX model let in more bumps and road imperfections inside than what I was expecting. To my surprise, the SXL featured a more comfortable ride. Despite featuring larger wheels, the SXL was able to iron out most bumps and imperfections. I can’t explain why there is a vast difference in terms of ride quality between the two trims at this time. The SXL does retain the sharp handling that we liked in the Optima EX. Body motions are kept in check and the steering provides a nice heft when turning. Some will lament that the steering doesn’t have the same feel as something like the Mazda6, but this has to be Kia’s best effort yet.  The Optima SXL begins at $35,790 and that includes every option available on the Optima as standard equipment - 18-inch alloy wheels, dual-zone climate control, heated and ventilated front seats, a Harman/Kardon audio system, navigation, blind-spot monitoring, adaptive cruise control, surround view camera system, and much more. Some might balk at the price. But considering what the SXL brings to the table, along with its improved ride quality, it is very much worth the price. Plus, you might be able to work out a deal to where you’ll be able to cut the price. We’ve seen dealers cutting about $2,000 to $4,000 off Optima SXLs in an effort improve sales of the midsize sedan. Who knows, you might be able to get one of best equipped and decent driving midsize sedans at a surprising price. Disclaimer: Kia Provided the Optima SXL, Insurance, and One Tank of Gas
      Year: 2016
      Make: Kia
      Model: Optima
      Trim: SXL
      Engine: Turbocharged 2.0L DOHC Four-Cylinder
      Driveline: Six-Speed Automatic, Front-Wheel Drive
      Horsepower @ RPM: 245 @ 6,000
      Torque @ RPM: 260 @ 1,350-4,000 
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 22/32/25
      Curb Weight: 3,594 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: West Point, Georgia
      Base Price: $35,790
      As Tested Price: $36,615 (Includes $825.00 Destination Charge)
      Options:
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