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    2022 Cadillac CT4 and CT5 Blackwing Bring A Performance Edge

      Missing the hot V models? Here are their replacements.

    After months of rumors and spy photos, Cadillac finally spilled the beans on their new high-performance CT4 and CT5 Blackwing. These new models are planned to give German rivals a bruising when they start arriving at dealers later this summer. Here is what we know.

    CT4 Blackwing

    The smaller of the two Blackwing models starts with a twin-turbo 3.6L V6 engine with 472 horsepower and 445 pound-feet of torque. To achieve this power, Cadillac upgraded the various internals with titanium connecting rods and a revised crankshaft. Power is routed to the rear-wheels by either a six-speed manual or ten-speed automatic. Performance figures are impressive with a 0-60 mph time of 3.8 seconds (automatic transmission) and a top speed of 189 mph.

    In terms of handling, the CT4 Blackwing features an electronic limited-slip rear differential and latest version of Magnetic Ride Control 4.0 - Cadillac claims the latter is the quickest-reacting suspension in the world. A set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires keep the vehicle glued to the road, while optional optional carbon ceramic brakes bring it to a quick stop.

    Visually, the CT4 Blackwing uses a new grille with larger openings to gobble up more air; functional fender vents, front splitter, and a rear spoiler. A carbon fiber package that claims to reduce aerodynamic lift by 214 percent is an option.

    CT5 Blackwing

    For those who want something a bit more mad can direct their attention to the CT5 Blackwing. Under its hood lies a massaged 6.2L supercharged V8 engine with 668 horsepower and 659 pound-feet of torque. Again, power is routed to the rear-wheels via a six-speed manual or ten-speed automatic. 0-60 mph takes 3.7 seconds (automatic transmission) and can cruise towards 200-plus mph. 

    What does this massaged V8 engine have? For starters. there's a larger supercharger (1.7-liters), aluminum cylinder heads, titanium intake valves, and improved airflow. 

    Like the CT4, the CT5 Blackwing gets Magnetic Ride Control 4.0 and electronic limited-slip rear differential. A set of forged 19-inch wheels exclusive to the Blackwing come wrapped in a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. 

    Outside, a new grille with larger openings to allow for more air, front splitter, and rear spoiler are the key changes to note. A carbon fiber package is optional.

    How Much?

    The CT4 Blackwing will set you back $59,990, and the larger CT5 Blackwing will cost $84,990. Both prices include a $995 destination charge. You can head down to your nearest Cadillac dealer to place a pre-order for either model right now.

    Source: Cadillac

    V-Series Blackwing: Ultimate Track Capability, Zero Compromise

    • The 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing and CT5-V Blackwing, two of the most powerful Cadillacs ever, raise the bar on performance

    The 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing and CT4-V Blackwing represent the pinnacle of Cadillac performance and craftsmanship, leveraging championship-winning racing heritage to create the most track-capable Cadillacs ever, while continuing to set new standards for luxury and comfort.

    Leveraging a Cadillac racing history that began in 1949 and has seen sustained success over the last two decades, the V-Series Blackwing models were developed with driver engagement and performance at the top of mind.

    “V-Series Blackwing stands for the very highest level of execution from Cadillac and offers a distinctly American vision of performance: incredible power and luxurious craftsmanship, with absolutely zero compromise,” said Brandon Vivian, executive chief engineer, Cadillac. “We looked to our championship-winning racing heritage and brought an uncompromising eye for detail to create two cars that elevate the V-Series experience.”

    V-Series Blackwing vehicles build on the already excellent performance dynamics of the CT5-V and CT4-V to create the top tier of the Cadillac sedan lineup.

    Highlights include:

    • Evolutions of the track-ready Cadillac 6.2L Supercharged V8 in the CT5-V Blackwing and 3.6L Twin-Turbo V6 in the CT4-V Blackwing
    • Upgraded TREMEC six-speed manual transmission standard
    • Available 10-speed automatic transmission
    • Electronic Limited Slip Rear Differential enhanced to reduce mass and improve on-track reliability
    • Advanced suspension refinements providing greater body control and a more agile feel
    • Magnetic Ride Control 4.0, the world’s fastest reacting suspension technology, sharpening the balance between daily-driving comfort and high-performance track capability
    • Unique structural enhancements improving steering response and handling on the track
    • Cadillac’s largest ever factory-installed brakes, available on the CT5-V Blackwing
    • Extensive validation including 12-hour and 24-hour track testing
    • Customizable integrated digital gauge cluster with Custom Launch Control and Performance Traction Management settings

    Liberating performance
    The CT5-V Blackwing uses an upgraded 6.2L supercharged V8 that, thanks to a higher flow air-intake and revised exhaust system, is rated at 668 horsepower (498 kW) and 659 lb-ft of torque (893 Nm), making it the most powerful production Cadillac ever. Each engine is hand-built at GM’s Bowling Green Assembly facility in Kentucky and features a signed engine builder’s plate.

    The CT4-V Blackwing sports an evolution of the Cadillac 3.6L Twin-Turbo V6 that features revised control system software and an improved air intake system to create 472 horsepower (352 kW) and 445 lb-ft of torque (603 Nm). The turbos’ low-inertia (titanium-aluminide) turbine wheels enable more precise and responsive application of torque throughout the rev range.

    Highlighted features and output:

    • CT5-V Blackwing: 6.2L Supercharged V8 - 668 hp, 659 lb-ft of torque
      • GM-estimated top track speed: over 200 mph
      • GM-estimated 0-60 mph: 3.7 seconds (automatic transmission)
      • Most powerful Cadillac ever
      • Air intake airflow is improved by 46 percent vs. the CTS-V
      • Compact, high-output 1.7L four-lobe Eaton supercharger with small-diameter rotors that enable boost to be generated earlier in the rpm band for instantaneous response
      • Rotocast A356T6 aluminum cylinder heads are stronger and handle heat better than conventional aluminum-alloy heads
      • Lightweight titanium intake valves
      • Track-capable wet-sump oiling and vent system with external oil separator and drainback
    • CT4-V Blackwing: 3.6L Twin-Turbo V6 - 472 hp, 445 lb-ft of torque
      • GM-estimated top speed: 189 mph
      • GM-estimated 0-60 mph: 3.8 seconds (automatic transmission)
      • Most powerful and fastest Cadillac in the subcompact class
      • Air intake restriction is improved by 39 percent vs. the ATS-V
      • Turbocharger compressors matched for peak efficiency at peak power for optimal track performance
      • Titanium connecting rods (manual transmission only) and revised crankshaft counterweights reduce main/rod bearing reciprocating loads
      • Re-targeted piston oil squirters, which direct engine oil at the bottoms of the pistons, for improved temperature control
      • The manifold-integrated water-to-air charge cooling system contributes to more immediate torque response
      • Airflow routing volume is reduced by 60 percent when compared to a conventional design that features a remotely mounted heat exchanger

    Track-capable braking systems
    Both V-Series Blackwing models feature advanced high-performance braking systems that have been extensively track and road-tested. The exclusive V-Series Blackwing wheel designs enable an even larger rotor over the previous CTS-V, making the CT5-V Blackwing braking system the largest factory-installed brakes in Cadillac history. Additionally, an available carbon-ceramic brake package for the CT5-V Blackwing, featuring cross-drilled rotors, deliver several benefits including weight savings, durability and heat management.

    Highlighted features:

    • CT4-V Blackwing: 14.96 x 1.34-inch (380 X 34 mm) front rotors and 13.4 x 1.1-inch (340.5 x 28 mm) rear rotors
    • CT5-V Blackwing: 15.67 x 1.42-inch (398 X 36 mm) front rotors and 14.7 x 1.1-inch (373.5 x 28 mm) rear rotors
    • Staggered Brembo® six-piston front calipers and four-piston rear calipers
    • Available on the CT5-V Blackwing, the lightweight carbon-ceramic brake package significantly improves heat management, as well as greater resistance to wear under extreme conditions on the racetrack, while also reducing unsprung mass and rotating mass:
      • 53-pound (24 kg) reduction in unsprung weight
      • 62-pound (28 kg) reduction in rotating mass
    • High-performance copper-free brake linings comply with California law and deliver superior fade resistance with an excellent pedal feel on and off the track
    • Brake systems are integrated to each vehicles’ selectable drive modes, including brake pedal feel. Brake pedal feel can also be assigned within My-Mode and V-Mode

    Manual transmission is standard
    Rare for sport sedans today, a six-speed TREMEC manual transmission is standard on both vehicles. It has been optimized for each V-Series Blackwing vehicle to provide an engaging experience on the track or on the road. Details include:

    • LuK twin-disc clutch for high torque capacity and great pedal feel
    • Active Rev Matching accessible via a console mounted toggle switch to automatically adjust engine speed to match anticipated downshifts
    • No-Lift Shift allowing the driver to shift gears without letting off the gas pedal. In the case of the CT4-V Blackwing, it allows the turbos to remain spooled, resulting in faster lap times
    • Transmission and rear differential cooling – the manual and automatic transmissions use the same track-performance cooling system for greater track performance
    • Clutch and brake pedals positioned for optimal driver ergonomics
    • A physical barrier stop for the clutch pedal rather than a hydraulic master cylinder stop provides greater driver feedback during clutch operation
    • A shorter shifter ratio than previous generations for more precise shifts

    Ten-speed automatic transmission
    The CT5-V Blackwing and CT4-V Blackwing are available with a 10-speed electronically controlled automatic transmission. It is tuned to complement the dual-personality experience of each respective model.

    Highlighted features:

    • Tap Shift/Manual Mode allowing the driver to use integrated magnesium paddle shifters to select a gear and hold it until selecting the next gear, up or down
    • Sport Mode providing real-time interpretation of driving conditions, adjusting the transmission to reduce shift busyness and improve performance, while retaining aggressive driving dynamics
    • Twenty-four-hour track testing resulted in several improvements in response to the demands of a high-g track environment, including a unique oil pan design and priority valve changes
    • Unique control systems with performance calibrations tailored for each model
    • Ten forward gears offer the most available transmission speeds in each sedans’ respective segments, helping keep the engines within their optimal rpm bands, while also anticipating the next shifts
    • Dynamic Performance Mode is calibrated specifically for V-Series Blackwing to deliver track focused shift patterns and automatically activates when high-g forces are experienced in Sport or Track mode
    • An auxiliary pump primes the automatic transmission system from the time the vehicle door is opened for improved cold-shift performance.

    Both V-Series Blackwing models also feature an enhanced Electronic Limited Slip Rear Differential. It weighs less and has been optimized for each driving mode and each Performance Traction Management setting.

    Highlighted features:

    • More control of the rear differential compared to traditional open and mechanical limited-slip differentials
    • Enhances road grip by automatically allocating torque to the rear wheel with the most traction during hard cornering — with the capability of sending up to 1,475 lb-ft (2,000 Nm) of locking torque across the axle
    • High-performance differential cooler
    • An aluminum housing replacing the previous generation cast iron housing, reducing mass by more than 22 pounds (10 kg)
    • Exclusive integrated heat exchanger for enhanced cooling

    Advanced suspension systems and strengthened chassis
    V-Series Blackwing combines the fourth generation of Magnetic Ride Control (MR 4.0), with improvements to the front and rear suspension systems. Stiffer spring rates, unique hollow stabilizer bars, higher-rate bushings and more enable a driving experience that isolates the driver from road imperfections, while also providing a precise, engaging connection with the road.

    MR 4.0 highlights:

    • Immense performance envelope that gave Cadillac engineers the freedom to optimize everyday driving and aggressive track performance
    • New accelerometers and an inertial measurement unit that transmit and process changes in road conditions four times faster than the previous generation system
    • Secondary temperature maps that enable engineers to compensate for changes in damper fluid temperature for more consistent performance, even during performance driving
    • Inertial measurement unit that provides more precise measurements of body motion relative to the wheel for more accurate readings under heavy braking, hard cornering and other driving conditions
    • Improved magnetic flux control that creates a more consistent and accurate transition between rebound and compression
    • Improvements to transient body control that allow the vehicle to remain more level while transitioning between corners

    MacPherson strut front suspension:

    • Ride link includes an all-new 100-percent elastomer bushing on the CT4-V Blackwing and a retuned hydro bushing on the CT5-V Blackwing, for improved ride response
    • Handling link has cross-axis ball joints for improved lateral control and quicker steering response

    Five-link independent rear suspension:

    • Lateral link features stiffer bushings for faster response and increased cornering agility
    • Toe link has cross-axis ball joints for increased stability and driver confidence
    • Rear knuckles have increased stiffness for improved braking and better control during cornering
    • Rear cradle mounts have been stiffened for optimum balance between road comfort and track performance

    V-Series Blackwing models are built on Cadillac’s award-winning rear-wheel drive architecture and feature unique structural enhancements including shock tower braces, an underside shear plate and thicker rear cross members to improve chassis rigidity. Along with the unique suspension elements, the stiffer structure enhances steering response, handling and the everyday driving experience.

    All-day performance, on and off the track
    The CT5-V Blackwing and CT4-V Blackwing build on Cadillac’s racing heritage and were developed to be track-capable straight from the factory. That includes an intensive validation program to ensure consistent performance during the most challenging track conditions.

    Validation for both models included:

    • Twenty-four-hour continuous track testing with the available automatic transmission, available carbon fiber aero package, aluminum wheels and available carbon ceramic brake package
    • Twelve-hour continuous track testing with the standard manual transmission, available carbon fiber aero package, aluminum wheels and available carbon ceramic brake package

    Functional aerodynamics, including an available carbon fiber aero package, contribute to the V-Series Blackwing models’ track prowess to support a variety of cooling needs for the cars’ respective engines, transmissions, axles and other supporting systems.

    Additionally, MICHELIN® Pilot Sport 4S tires developed exclusively for the V-Series Blackwing models contribute to their balance of track capability and road comfort. Highlights include:

    • Unique, multiple-compound tread composition:
      • Contact patch composed of three unique tread rubber compounds
      • Racing “R compound” used for the majority of the tread
      • Compounds optimized for wet traction, enhanced street and track durability, as well as rolling resistance
    • The mold shape of the tire has been specifically engineered for Blackwing models to optimize contact with the road
    • Tire sizes:
      • CT5-V Blackwing tire size: 275/35ZR19 (front) and 305/30ZR19 (rear)
      • CT4-V Blackwing tire size: 255/35ZR18 (front) and 275/35ZR18 (rear)

    Both V-Series Blackwing vehicles feature standard forged aluminum alloy wheels with staggered widths, front to rear. These forged wheels are stronger and lighter than conventional cast aluminum.

    Wheel sizes:

    • CT5-V Blackwing: Front – 19 x 10 inches / Rear – 19 x 11 inches
    • CT4-V Blackwing: Front – 18 x 9 inches / Rear – 18 x 9.5 inches

    Coming this summer
    Reservations for both vehicles open on Feb. 1, 2021 at 7:30 p.m. ET on Cadillac.com, with deliveries later this summer. Pricing begins at $59,9901 for the CT4-V Blackwing and $84,9901 for the CT5-V Blackwing.

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    1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

    Mercedes makes REAL trucks. 

    These are now under the Daimler banner.  

    But...so does (did) GM  (produce REAL trucks)

    Sold off or spun off or whatever over the years...

    As Balthy once said though.  Daimler-Benz (Mercedes) is more akin to General Motors rather than Mercedes be like Cadillac and Cadillac be like Mercedes. 

    GM sold off and spun off their truck division...and going forward Daimler-Benz is no longer.  Daimler has just been spun off to be its own truck division.  Commercial trucks and busses are now...Daimler.   

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    And let us not forget that this beast...is a truck underneath...dressed to be a Cadillac

    But its a General Motors commercial Top Kick platform.   Im sure Daimler could build one too.  

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    49 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    It's just unfortunate that they chose to share an engine specifically designed for truck use, to be in their luxury sport sedan. It isn't that it is tune-able, it's that it isn't refined enough for luxury sport sedan-use. 

    "I wasn't going to describe it as such when Cadillac admitted that the turbocharged 2.7-liter four-cylinder comes from the Chevrolet Silverado pickup, but then I slid behind the wheel and hit the start button. The largest four-cylinder engine on the market starts up with a grumble, like a teenager being dragged out of bed at 5:00 a.m. I'm not kidding, on startup you can feel the torque twist the engine in its mounts, a sensation that reverberates through the car – it's uncouth and unacceptable behavior for a car with a luxury badge. So, yes, this is a truck engine, even if it smooths out at idle."

    https://www.motor1.com/reviews/428474/2020-cadillac-ct4-v-first-drive/

    Mercedes makes REAL trucks. 

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    I will certainly agree that any company would be stupid to not want the success Ford, GM, and Ram have had with their trucks. Great margins, great profits. 

    I know I've said it, maybe/maybe not here, that the C8Z is going to seriously hurt feelings. The C8 Z51 is already putting dents in serious super car territory. I'm stoked for the Z06 and/or ZR1.

    Yeah, those Motor1 guys tend to get carried away with descriptions on all makes and models. You're making me want to go test drive a CT4-V with the 2.7T.          I mean not all luxury engines are butter smooth, the Cadillac V Series have been apologetic hammers and people love them, I loved my '13 Gen. 2 CTS-V Coupe and just like AMG V8's are loud and somewhat rough at idle that's how they're supposed to be. I hate the sewing machine smooth and quiet where you can barely hear it running. I've driven my Aunt's newer C Class Kompressor and it's not all that smooth through the power band.  

     

    Oh yeah Benzo boy? Try to capture this REAL TRUCK lineup picture with MB! I'm being facetious dude don't snap, but it is a true statement on the pic. :D

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    17 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    It's just unfortunate that they chose to share an engine specifically designed for truck use, to be in their luxury sport sedan. It isn't that it is tune-able, it's that it isn't refined enough for luxury sport sedan-use. 

    "I wasn't going to describe it as such when Cadillac admitted that the turbocharged 2.7-liter four-cylinder comes from the Chevrolet Silverado pickup, but then I slid behind the wheel and hit the start button. The largest four-cylinder engine on the market starts up with a grumble, like a teenager being dragged out of bed at 5:00 a.m. I'm not kidding, on startup you can feel the torque twist the engine in its mounts, a sensation that reverberates through the car – it's uncouth and unacceptable behavior for a car with a luxury badge. So, yes, this is a truck engine, even if it smooths out at idle."

    https://www.motor1.com/reviews/428474/2020-cadillac-ct4-v-first-drive/

    Mercedes makes REAL trucks. 

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    I will certainly agree that any company would be stupid to not want the success Ford, GM, and Ram have had with their trucks. Great margins, great profits. 

    I know I've said it, maybe/maybe not here, that the C8Z is going to seriously hurt feelings. The C8 Z51 is already putting dents in serious super car territory. I'm stoked for the Z06 and/or ZR1. 

    I was literally never talking to you about this. I responded to David. 

    Classic Surreal, nutting all over a thread. 

    Speak for yourself buddy. You spent a page and a half going back and forth with USA-1 over semantics (like always) and nutting over any reasonable discussion so look in the mirror next time before trying to call someone else out.

    On 2/3/2021 at 11:47 AM, ccap41 said:

    Oh look, another thread with ocn and surreal going at it. 

    Literally what you said on the first page. That was not a response to David. You tried to call me out over something you, yourself, did on this very same thread. Again, look in the mirror next time.

     

    Classic ccap. Nutting all over his own double standards and arguing over semantics yet again.

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    www.cadillac.com at least is starting off one's visit with covering their EV LYRIQ.

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    Then the second point is selling 2021 XT4 & XT5 which is currently out of production due to parts shortage and yet a decent interest rate and cash back. INTERESTING 🤔

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    Third Bullet is the V-Series Blackwing, nice and easy to find.

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    Forth and final bullet is advertising their Virtual Show room as Cadillac has also stepped into the ring of virtual show rooms and buying via the web. What does this say about the future of showrooms? 🤔

    She is cute the Virtual salesperson. :P 

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    47 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Speak for yourself buddy. You spent a page and a half going back and forth with USA-1 over semantics (like always) and nutting over any reasonable discussion so look in the mirror next time before trying to call someone else out.

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    47 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    That was not a response to David.

    Uhhh... It sure was. Also, your lack of creativity isn't surprising. Your "comebacks" are the same exact words...every time. 

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    55 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

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    Uhhh... It sure was. Also, your lack of creativity isn't surprising. Your "comebacks" are the same exact words...every time. 

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    You clearly didn’t realize that we are talking about TWO different things but again, keep arguing over semantics for two more pages. 
     

    And last time I checked, it wasn’t a creativity competition. My supposed lack of creativity doesn’t make my statement any less true and that’s the point, which clearly flew over your head. 
     

    Back to cars...

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    36 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Obviously. You don't even attempt. ocn and I could crawl circles around you. 

     

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    Then crawl your sorry ass on out then because you are just continuing to prove me right by going on and on about it while harping on others to NOT to do that same thing.

     

    And the only thing you are crawling around, at this point, is the drain. Don’t forget to flush.

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    19 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    It's just unfortunate that they chose to share an engine specifically designed for truck use, to be in their luxury sport sedan. It isn't that it is tune-able, it's that it isn't refined enough for luxury sport sedan-use. 

    "I wasn't going to describe it as such when Cadillac admitted that the turbocharged 2.7-liter four-cylinder comes from the Chevrolet Silverado pickup, but then I slid behind the wheel and hit the start button. The largest four-cylinder engine on the market starts up with a grumble, like a teenager being dragged out of bed at 5:00 a.m. I'm not kidding, on startup you can feel the torque twist the engine in its mounts, a sensation that reverberates through the car – it's uncouth and unacceptable behavior for a car with a luxury badge. So, yes, this is a truck engine, even if it smooths out at idle."

    https://www.motor1.com/reviews/428474/2020-cadillac-ct4-v-first-drive/

     

    So I've yet to drive the 2.7T in the CT4, but that doesn't sound like an engine issue, but rather a mounting issue.  I know a number of the guys at Motor1 and to say they're excitable over minor things is an understatement, though I don't know Brandon specifically. 

    I am near certain that the 2.7 gets active motor mounts. I don't know if there is a "boot up" process for them or what, but that could explain some of the scenario he describes. 

    That said, these days there is really no such thing as a "truck engine" unless you're talking a big diesel. There are car engines that aren't appropriate for trucks due to the shape of their torque curve, but usually not the other way around. Pretty much any and all roughness can be dialed out with the use of balance shafts and active motor mounts. 

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    Since all BlackWings will have it, I wonder how often they will get used in reality?

    PDR or Performance Data Recorder. I know this is from the Corvette, and I have read where people do use it there, but I wonder about here.

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    46 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    That said, these days there is really no such thing as a "truck engine" unless you're talking a big diesel. There are car engines that aren't appropriate for trucks due to the shape of their torque curve, but usually not the other way around. Pretty much any and all roughness can be dialed out with the use of balance shafts and active motor mounts. 

    While I know what you mean, wouldn't the shape of the curve of the 2.7 not really be all that suitable for a sports sedan(in a sporty spec)? Bunch of low end torque and looses steam up top(like many of EcoBoosts). 

    23 minutes ago, David said:

    Since all BlackWings will have it, I wonder how often they will get used in reality?

    PDR or Performance Data Recorder. I know this is from the Corvette, and I have read where people do use it there, but I wonder about here.

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    I'd wager very rarely, same as any vehicle with this kind of performance monitoring. They produce really cool information but I doubt many actually use it all that often. I'd also say that the very few who do track their cars, would use it every single time. 

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    2 hours ago, David said:

    Since all BlackWings will have it, I wonder how often they will get used in reality?

    PDR or Performance Data Recorder. I know this is from the Corvette, and I have read where people do use it there, but I wonder about here.

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    I'm pretty sure the CTS, ATS, and CT6 (a mild version), all had it in their respective V versions. 

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    2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    While I know what you mean, wouldn't the shape of the curve of the 2.7 not really be all that suitable for a sports sedan(in a sporty spec)? Bunch of low end torque and looses steam up top(like many of EcoBoosts). 

    Depends on your goals. If you're trying to win at the drag strip, you're probably right.  Taking it out on the Nürburgring the torque curve and the 10-speed in manumatic mode would probably do really well. 

    In day to day driving, the 2.7 will feel significantly more powerful than the direct competition listed since the way they designed it gives it very little lag. It's probably one of the few turbo-4s I'd find acceptable because of the anti-lag design.  It probably feels a good bit more powerful than the 3.6 V6 since the torque kicks in so low compared to the higher RPM in the V6. 

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    10 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Depends on your goals. If you're trying to win at the drag strip, you're probably right.  Taking it out on the Nürburgring the torque curve and the 10-speed in manumatic mode would probably do really well. 

    In day to day driving, the 2.7 will feel significantly more powerful than the direct competition listed since the way they designed it gives it very little lag. It's probably one of the few turbo-4s I'd find acceptable because of the anti-lag design.  It probably feels a good bit more powerful than the 3.6 V6 since the torque kicks in so low compared to the higher RPM in the V6. 

    Yeah, it's a great daily engine but not a sporty engine, like most EcoBoosts. 

    If what I read yesterday I comprehended, it's a similar situation to a twin scroll, minimizing lag to near zero. 

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    53 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Yeah, it's a great daily engine but not a sporty engine, like most EcoBoosts. 

    If what I read yesterday I comprehended, it's a similar situation to a twin scroll, minimizing lag to near zero. 

    This is the mid-range engine in the CT4 and it’s being compared to AMGs and Ms. 

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    44 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    This is the mid-range engine in the CT4 and it’s being compared to AMGs and Ms. 

    Because Cadillac completely botched their naming system, AGAIN. 

    Don't throw a "V" on something with a diesel-like power band(exaggeration). This is a stellar base engine that could be tuned down 'because hierarchy" but V still means sport, just like the V-Sport of old. 

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    4 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Because Cadillac completely botched their naming system, AGAIN. 

    Don't throw a "V" on something with a diesel-like power band(exaggeration). This is a stellar base engine that could be tuned down 'because hierarchy" but V still means sport, just like the V-Sport of old. 

    Even though I am not a turbo fan, I can easily see Cadillac using this Torque motor with a proper dual scroll Turbo and higher compression to give it the top end to go with the bottom end so it scoots off the line and still runs out.

    I have not test drove this, but the engineering makes sense of using this motor in this manner. Have you test drove it yet?

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    7 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Because Cadillac completely botched their naming system, AGAIN. 

    Don't throw a "V" on something with a diesel-like power band(exaggeration). This is a stellar base engine that could be tuned down 'because hierarchy" but V still means sport, just like the V-Sport of old. 

    Oh I agree there. Cadillac naming is a complete shit show and has been for years.

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