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    Honda Teases Us with the 2018 Accord

      The stalwart Honda Accord is getting a whole new body.


    2018 is setting up to be an interesting year. Like a rare celestial event, the two biggest players in one of the largest segments will both be releasing all new versions of their mid-size sedans.

    Toyota has already shown the all-new 2018 Toyota Camry earlier this year at the Detroit Auto Show, and on July 14th it is Honda's turn with the 10th Generation Accord.

    Earlier this month we wrote that the 2018 Honda Accord will no longer offer a V6, instead opting for two turbo-direct-injected engines in 1.5T and 2.0T configurations or a next-generation two-motor Hybrid.  Three transmissions will be available depending on engine; a 10-speed automatic, a CVT, or a 6-speed manual.  Performance specifics will be shared during the live event.

    In the concept teaser image shared by Honda, we can see the latest face of Honda under a muscular looking and long hood. Honda promises that the 2018 Accord will be the most dramatically styled Accord ever. (not a high bar to cross - DD) While Toyota takes the overall sales crown in the midsize segment, Honda is quick to point out that the Accord enjoys higher retail sales, which is a gentle jab at Toyota for increasing fleet sales.

    It's rare that we get to see two such heavyweights fight it out with brand new models released in the same model year, with additional competition coming from the redesigned 2018 Hyundai Sonata, and Nissan likely following the year after with the Altima, it will be interesting to see who comes out on top.

    We will have more information posted on July 14th during the live reveal in Detroit.

    Honda press release on page 2

    2018_Honda_Accord_Concept_Sketch.jpg

    SourceHonda Media, Picture courtesy of Honda America.


    World Debut of Dramatically-styled 10th Generation Honda Accord Set for July 14

     
     - TORRANCE, Calif.
    • Live in Detroit and via Livestream on YouTube at 11:00 a.m. EDT
    • Concept sketch reveals dramatic new styling direction
    • America's best-selling (retail) midsize sedan gets complete remake from ground-up

    Honda today released a concept sketch highlighting the aggressive stance and proportion of the all-new 2018 Honda Accord that will make its global debut in Detroit and via YouTube Livestream (honda.us/2018AccordReveal) on July 14, at 11:00 a.m. EDT. The all-new Accord – the most fun-to-drive, premium and dramatically styled Accord ever – is the 10th generation of America's best-selling midsize sedan, the number one choice of individual American car buyers cumulatively since 20101.

    Earlier this month, the company announced plans for a new Accord that will feature three powerful and fuel-efficient powertrains, including two new direct-injected and turbocharged engines paired with either a new Honda-developed 10-speed automatic transmission, CVT or a 6-speed manual transmission depending upon engine, as well as the next-generation of Honda's two-motor hybrid powertrain technology. Honda will share additional details of its powertrain performance, along with the new design and technology at the event.

    A perennial best-seller with American car buyers, the Accord has been the U.S. retail sales leader in the midsize sedan segment for four straight years (2013-2016). For the first five months of 2017, based on retail sales to individual buyers, Accord is the top selling midsize sedan in America and the second best-selling passenger car overall, surpassed only by the new Honda Civic2. Accord also is an unprecedented 31-time recipient of Car and Driver magazine's coveted 10Best award.

    Since its launch in 1976, American car buyers have purchased more than 13 million Accords. It was the first vehicle from a Japanese automaker to be made in America and has been in continuous production at Honda's Marysville, Ohio auto plant since November 1982. Cumulative U.S. production of Accord now exceeds 11 million units over 35 years of U.S. manufacturing3.

    About Honda

    Honda offers a full line of reliable, fuel-efficient and fun-to-drive vehicles with advanced safety technologies sold through over 1,000 independent U.S. Honda dealers. The Honda lineup includes the Fit, Civic, Accord and Clarity series passenger cars, along with the HR-V, CR-V and Pilot sport/utility vehicles, the Ridgeline pickup and the Odyssey minivan.

    Honda has been producing automobiles in America for 35 years and currently operates 19 major manufacturing facilities in North America. In 2016, more than 95% of all Honda and Acura vehicles sold in the U.S. were made in North America, using domestic and globally sourced parts.

    1. Based on Urban Science cumulative retail sales data for all car models in the industry for 2010-2017CYTD May.2. Based on Urban Science retail sales data in the Midsize car segment for 2013-2017CYTD May. 3. Manufactured in the U.S. using domestic and globally-sourced parts.

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    8 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    Of the two I might well prefer the Camry...but we will see when the new Accord comes out.

    The fact that I can get the 3.5 V6 paired with an 8-speed in the Camry would cinch that decision for me.  Toyota's V6es perform far better than their numbers suggest they should. 

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    1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    The fact that I can get the 3.5 V6 paired with an 8-speed in the Camry would cinch that decision for me.  Toyota's V6es perform far better than their numbers suggest they should. 

    I have heard a lot of good things about the upcoming Camry. Glad to know you don't think I am insane for preferring the Camry over the Accord.

    ...and it is a real shame about the V-6 being gone from the Accord for Honda. My son has an Acura TL with the V6....really a decent car, but the interior materials would make a 90's Olds Cutlass blush with embarrassment.

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    Haven't warmed up to the new Camry front end yet.. Expecting this Accord to look like a bigger Civic up front but time will tell.

     

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    2 hours ago, frogger said:

    Haven't warmed up to the new Camry front end yet.. Expecting this Accord to look like a bigger Civic up front but time will tell.

     

    For me it is more a philosophical thing. Honda still builds really nice cars, but I feel like they are making a second best effort.  With the new RAV 4, the new Camry, the Prius, the Tacoma, and the 86, I feel like Toyota is trying to bring its A game.

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    4 hours ago, frogger said:

    Haven't warmed up to the new Camry front end yet.. Expecting this Accord to look like a bigger Civic up front but time will tell.

     

    I"m hoping they keep the longer looking hood

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    12 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    For me it is more a philosophical thing. Honda still builds really nice cars, but I feel like they are making a second best effort.  With the new RAV 4, the new Camry, the Prius, the Tacoma, and the 86, I feel like Toyota is trying to bring its A game.

    Maybe all of Honda's A-game efforts wen to Acura. . . . .

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    12 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    For me it is more a philosophical thing. Honda still builds really nice cars, but I feel like they are making a second best effort.  With the new RAV 4, the new Camry, the Prius, the Tacoma, and the 86, I feel like Toyota is trying to bring its A game.

    IMO Fit, Civic, HRV, CRV,Pilot > Yaris, Corolla,CHR,RAV4,Highlander

     

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    C/D has a writeup on the new FUGLY Camry......but at least that will have a v6 choice....... the new camry interior is not bad too.  Is Honda shooting themselves in the foot

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    9 hours ago, regfootball said:

    C/D has a writeup on the new FUGLY Camry......but at least that will have a v6 choice....... the new camry interior is not bad too.  Is Honda shooting themselves in the foot

    Not sure if Honda is shooting itself in the foot...

    Do not mind the Camry so much myself...

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    As an aside, looking at photos of the new Camry, the basic shape is decent, but there are some weird details...the higher trim versions have those weird Lexus-like chrome 'tears' angling downward from the taillights, and why are their black (plastic?) trim pieces on each side of the rear window?   The overall shape is pleasant enough but the detailing is overwrought, IMO...

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    On 6/23/2017 at 8:03 AM, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    As an aside, looking at photos of the new Camry, the basic shape is decent, but there are some weird details...the higher trim versions have those weird Lexus-like chrome 'tears' angling downward from the taillights, and why are their black (plastic?) trim pieces on each side of the rear window?   The overall shape is pleasant enough but the detailing is overwrought, IMO...

    Agree... although I still like it...

    5 hours ago, Guest AsianPersuasian said:

    New camry looks bad, new Accord is promising. 

    I am more at peace that the Continental but I still find it overly soft and feminine in the design language...just like the Accord.

    Thankfully I never have to buy either one.

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    On 6/19/2017 at 3:35 PM, A Horse With No Name said:

    I have heard a lot of good things about the upcoming Camry. Glad to know you don't think I am insane for preferring the Camry over the Accord.

    ...and it is a real shame about the V-6 being gone from the Accord for Honda. My son has an Acura TL with the V6....really a decent car, but the interior materials would make a 90's Olds Cutlass blush with embarrassment.

    Yes. The TL.. a friend of mine picked me up for breakfast yesterday in her 2015 TL. The interior was, again, way less luxo than my Impala's. I am not talking about my '14... I'm talkin about my '66..  2n83frs.jpg. No seriously. the interior was effin plasticky and cheap on a level that I wouldn't expect in a Honda.. let alone their luxury brand

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    Honda is one of the OEMs that is stuck in the past by about 20+ years. Sad in this day that a company with so many solid products is light years behind the competition.

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    13 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    Honda is one of the OEMs that is stuck in the past by about 20+ years. Sad in this day that a company with so many solid products is light years behind the competition.

    Agree. The new Civic actually a nice car.. my runner up to the Cruze.. but its styling... makes me think of Mad Max Road Warrior

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    29 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    Yes. The TL.. a friend of mine picked me up for breakfast yesterday in her 2015 TL. The interior was, again, way less luxo than my Impala's. I am not talking about my '14... I'm talkin about my '66..  2n83frs.jpg. No seriously. the interior was effin plasticky and cheap on a level that I wouldn't expect in a Honda.. let alone their luxury brand

    GM was ahead of the 2017 Honda products with their interiors in the 1950's.

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    40 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    GM was ahead of the 2017 Honda products with their interiors in the 1950's.

    I agree.. This is the interior of a 55 my friend/neighbor just picked up a few months ago. Look a the detail in the dash and U will see Chevy Bowties in the silver portion 

     

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    36 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    I agree.. This is the interior of a 55 my friend/neighbor just picked up a few months ago. Look a the detail in the dash and U will see Chevy Bowties in the silver portion 

     

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    I used to own a 55 Chevrolet two door post myself...Honda in their entire history has never built anything like this, nor will they ever.

     

    Love that color of Blue BTW....

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      The use of lighter weight materials was a distinct focus. Aluminum is used for about 19 percent of the body, reducing the weight by 110 kg (243 lbs) compared to the previous one, thus increasing fuel efficiency and performance.
      Engineered for world markets and customer needs, the G80 features three powertrains:
      2.5-liter turbocharged Inline-4: 304 PS (300 HP @ 5,800 rpm) and 43.0 kgf·m torque (311 lb.-ft. from 1,650 – 4,000 rpm) 3.5-liter turbocharged V6: 380 PS (375 HP @ 5,800 rpm) and 54.0 kgf·m torque (391 lb.-ft. from 1,300 – 4,500 rpm) Diesel 2.2-liter Inline-4: 210 PS, 45.0 kgf·m torque. (Not available in the U.S. market) The G80 features improved door sealing, new engine compartment sound insulation and resonant sound-reducing wheels to ensure indoor quietness and class-leading, low levels of noise (NVH). In addition, the Electronically Controlled Suspension with Road Preview, enhances ride quality by reducing road impacts using information supplied through the front camera.
      Advanced Safety
      In keeping with the brand’s safety platform, G80 applies standard active and passive safety systems, as part of a brand-level engineering commitment to passenger security. State-of-the-art, advanced driver-assistance systems (ADAS) include:
      Highway Driving Assist II (HDA II): This system helps assist the driver in a wider variety of situations than before, including during lane change maneuvers when the turn signal is used, and when others merge in front of you. Smart Cruise Control with Machine Learning (SCC-ML): A world first, SCC-ML, as applied to the all-new Genesis GV80 SUV earlier this year, incorporates artificial intelligence (AI) within the Advanced Driver Assistance System (ADAS) feature that helps the car to independently learn the driving characteristics of - and assist - its driver. Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist (FCA): This system may help automatically bring the G80 to a stop in certain situations where there is a risk of collision with an approaching vehicle detected on the left or right side of the intersection. G80 may also help detect potential collision risks in certain situations where a pedestrian is sensed in close proximity to the vehicle while in motion, for example. Blind-Spot Collision Avoidance Assist (BCA): BCA is essentially a Blind Spot Monitor with active capabilities. BCA helps reduce the chance of potential impact with a moving vehicle and may alert the driver if a vehicle is detected in the driver’s blind-spot A complement of 10 air bags includes front and side airbags as well as a center airbag, between the front seat occupants, that helps prevent secondary contact between occupants in a side impact.
      In addition, the Genesis safety platform works to integrate communications between 40+ controllers in real time to help ensure the safest response in various scenarios.
      Next-Generation, Technology-Enabled Luxury
      The G80 offers a high level of convenience to drivers with a suite of new technology. Each new feature is focused on further and seamlessly integrating the G80 with its client’s lifestyle, devices and preferences. A selection of highlighted features include:
      The Remote Smart Parking Assistant (RSPA) provides remote drive/reverse functions that facilitate parking in narrow spaces, as well as perpendicular parking and parallel parking. This can be controlled within the car or outside, remotely via the key fob. The 12.3-inch 3D instrument cluster recognizes the driver's eyes and provides various driving information and can be converted to 2D depending on the driver's preference. The Genesis Integrated Controller allows users to set destinations or enter phone numbers by simply writing on the main control center instead of complicated keyboard input. A 14.5-inch touchscreen infotainment system links with the Genesis Integrated Controller to support Genesis Quick Guide and Valet mode. Valet mode is a function that enhances security so that users' personal information does not appear on infotainment screens when using a Valet parking service. Over-the-air, wireless updates to the navigation system. Phone connectivity including Android Auto and Apple Car Play. With an eye toward the senses, luxury-focused items include:
      The driver's seat is equipped with an ergo motion seat function featuring seven air cells which enables optimum seating for each driving mode and reduces fatigue via a stretching mode and automatic posture correction functions. Ambient mood lamps applied throughout the interior add a sense of calm to the passenger space in various colors. From a sound standpoint, Genesis has enhanced the engine's sound with its Active Sound Design (ASD), standard on all G80s equipped with gasoline engines, adding an additional level of customization. The Lexicon sound system allows passengers to enjoy the vivid sound effects of a concert, such as "Quantum Logic Surround Audience Mode/Stage Mode," adding to the joy of listening. The first row HVAC system allows the driver to adjust the heated/ventilated seats in the second row and the air conditioning mode/temperature independently of the first row, increasing the convenience for second row passengers. Marketplace
      The all-new G80 enters the marketplace on March 30th in South Korea and in the second half of the year in other markets, starting with North America.
    • By Drew Dowdell
      At an event is Seoul, South Korea yesterday, Genesis finally unveiled their new GV80 luxury SUV.  The overall look of the GV80 has been leaking out on the internet for months, but we finally get the full official release now.
      The interior and exterior of the GV80 is designed with a common thread to give a familial look with the G70, G80, and G90.  The GV80 introduces a new quad headlamp design that will eventually filter out to the other vehicles in the Genesis lineup. The crest grille first seen on the G90 is here too. The interior of the GV80 focuses on the "beauty of white space". The designed accentuated the width and space of the of the interior with wide horizontal lines and thin air vents.  In the center is a 14.5-inch split screen infotainment display. Genesis intentionally limited the number of hard buttons and switches for aesthetic reasons. The GV80 comes in either 5-seat or 7-seat models. On up-level models, soft materials cover every surface from the inside of door handles to quilted knee pads that line the lower sides of the console.  The transmission selector is a dial in the center console. The integrated controller can be operated by an onscreen keyboard or by handwritten letters. 
      Trips in the GV80 are designed to be stress-free. It gets equipped with a Road Active Noise Cancellation technology to reduce road noise. The system is one of the advanced and fast responding systems in the world. The electronically controlled suspension with road preview helps maintain a smooth ride by recognizing road imperfections ahead via a front camera.
      The GV80 is based on a unique new rear-wheel drive platform, while all-wheel drive is available.  In South Korea is till be equipped with a 3.0-liter six-cylinder diesel engine while the U.S. will get a choice between two unspecified turbocharged engines. All-wheel drive models in the U.S. will be equipped with an electronic rear limited slip differential.
      There is a host of safety and driving assistance technologies in the GV80 including Smart Cruise Control with Machine Learning, Highway Driving Assist II, Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist, Blind-Spot collision Avoidance Assist, Rear cross-traffic collision avoidance, and driver attention alert warning. In the event of a collision, there are 10 airbags, including a center mounted airbag between the front occupants. 
      The 2021 Genesis GV80 will go on sale in North America later this year.
       

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    • By Drew Dowdell
      At an event is Seoul, South Korea yesterday, Genesis finally unveiled their new GV80 luxury SUV.  The overall look of the GV80 has been leaking out on the internet for months, but we finally get the full official release now.
      The interior and exterior of the GV80 is designed with a common thread to give a familial look with the G70, G80, and G90.  The GV80 introduces a new quad headlamp design that will eventually filter out to the other vehicles in the Genesis lineup. The crest grille first seen on the G90 is here too. The interior of the GV80 focuses on the "beauty of white space". The designed accentuated the width and space of the of the interior with wide horizontal lines and thin air vents.  In the center is a 14.5-inch split screen infotainment display. Genesis intentionally limited the number of hard buttons and switches for aesthetic reasons. The GV80 comes in either 5-seat or 7-seat models. On up-level models, soft materials cover every surface from the inside of door handles to quilted knee pads that line the lower sides of the console.  The transmission selector is a dial in the center console. The integrated controller can be operated by an onscreen keyboard or by handwritten letters. 
      Trips in the GV80 are designed to be stress-free. It gets equipped with a Road Active Noise Cancellation technology to reduce road noise. The system is one of the advanced and fast responding systems in the world. The electronically controlled suspension with road preview helps maintain a smooth ride by recognizing road imperfections ahead via a front camera.
      The GV80 is based on a unique new rear-wheel drive platform, while all-wheel drive is available.  In South Korea is till be equipped with a 3.0-liter six-cylinder diesel engine while the U.S. will get a choice between two unspecified turbocharged engines. All-wheel drive models in the U.S. will be equipped with an electronic rear limited slip differential.
      There is a host of safety and driving assistance technologies in the GV80 including Smart Cruise Control with Machine Learning, Highway Driving Assist II, Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist, Blind-Spot collision Avoidance Assist, Rear cross-traffic collision avoidance, and driver attention alert warning. In the event of a collision, there are 10 airbags, including a center mounted airbag between the front occupants. 
      The 2021 Genesis GV80 will go on sale in North America later this year.
       
    • By Drew Dowdell
      At an event in Vail, Colorado today, GMC took the wraps off the 2021 GMC Yukon and Yukon XL.  As before, the top of the Yukon lineup will be the Denali trim, but joining the Denali for the first time is the brand's new AT4 trim which is a more off-road ready version.
      The Yukon gets an all-new interior while the Denali gets its own exclusive version. The Denali instrument panel is completely new and there are also unique seats  and four color themes.  Real wood trims with a natural look and texture join with a Denali only leather, hand-stitched interior.  For the driver, there is a 15-inch diagonal multicolor heads-up display.  On the Denali, AT4, and SLT trims, there is an available power sliding center console that allow the console to slide back up to 10 inches offering a large storage area. 
      Joining the lineup is the AT4 version. All GMC nameplates except the Savanna will be getting an AT4 version by the end of this year.  The Yukon AT4 gets a unique front fascia, and body color or dark accents around the outside, and a pair of red recovery hooks on the front.  The AT4 can be ordered with a four-corner air ride adaptive suspension that can raise the vehicle an additional 2-inches. The air ride system also lowers the vehicle 0.75 of an inch when at speed and can lower the vehicle up to two inches for easier ingress and egress. 
      Also included in the Yukon AT4 are at two-speed transfer case, 20-inch wheels, traction select system with off-road mode, hill descent control, skid plats, AT4-exclusive leather appointed seats, heated steering wheel, heated and cooled front seats, and heated outboard second row seats. 
      The 4th generation of GM's magnetic ride control is available in certain trims. Also available is an electronic limited slip differential. When in 4WD low, the eLSD operates at full lock to prevent wheelslip. 
      The Yukon will offer three engine choices. An all-new version of the 6.2-liter V8 that produces 420 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque is a buy-up option. Standard is the venerable 5.3-liter, updated with new stop/start technology and dynamic fuel management which can allow the vehicle to run on as few a two cylinders.  Additionally, a 3.0 liter inline 6-cylinder turbo diesel joins the Yukon for the first time.  No matter which engine is selected, the transmission is a 10-speed automatic activated through GMC's new Electronic Precision Shift push-button selector. 
      Like the recently revealed 2021 Chevrolet Suburban and Tahoe, the Yukon gains 4.9-inches in wheelbase and that leads to a big increase in interior room.
        2020 Yukon   2021 Yukon Change Wheelbase (inches)
      116
      120.9
      +4.9
      Overall Length (inches)
      203.9
      210.0
      +6.1
      Legroom – Third Row
      24.8
      34.9
      +10.1
      Cargo Room Behind Third Row (cubic feet)
      15.3
      25.5
      +10.2
      Maximum Cargo Room
      (cubic feet)
      94.7
      122.9
      +28.2
       
        2020 Yukon XL 2021 Yukon XL Change Wheelbase (inches)
      130
      134.1
      +4.1
      Overall Length (inches)
      224.3
      225.2
      +0.9
      Legroom – Third Row (inches)
      34.5
      36.7
      +2.2
      Cargo Room Behind Third Row (cubic feet)
      39.3
      41.1
      +1.8
      Maximum Cargo Room
      (cubic feet)
      121.7
      144.7
      +23
       
      The 2021 Yukon and Yukon XL go on sale later this year with pricing to be released closer to on sale date. 
       

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