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    Volkswagen Reveals the Global ID.7 Sedan

      Want a car with range, the ID.7 EV could be that answer.

    Volkswagen ID.7 is the brands first upper mid-size electric sedan. This is their first EV with the companies' new display and operating system. The ID.7 also delivers an excellent aerodynamics with a more efficient powertrain that ensures long range operation. The ID.7 offers exceptional comfort through features such as new AC system, seat Climatronic with massage function and a panoramic sunroof with switchable smart glass. The ID.7 will launch autumn 2023 in Europe and China and North America in 2024.

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    The superior powertrain, spacious interior and premium technologies make the ID.7 a comfortable limousine like EV for long distance travel with a battery range of up to 700 kilometers (WLTP) or 435 miles (EPA). 

    The following was stated by the executive leadership at VW.

    Thomas Schäfer, CEO of Volkswagen Passenger Cars: “With the ID.7 we are taking the next step in our electric offensive. The limousine offers a high level of comfort and long ranges. Already by 2026, we will offer the widest electric range of all manufacturers in Europe – from the entry-level model for less than 25,000 euros up to the ID.7 as the new top model within the ID. family. Our goal is to achieve an electric car share of 80 per cent in Europe by 2030. As from 2033, Volkswagen will produce only electric vehicles in Europe.”

    Kai Grünitz, Member of the Brand Board of Management responsible for Development: “The ID.7 sets new efficiency standards on the basis of the modular electric drive matrix (MEB). We are aiming for a range of up to 700 kilometres in accordance with WLTP. This is made possible by very good aerodynamics and by significantly increased efficiency in the areas of the powertrain and thermal management.” 

    The ID.7 is the first MEB model with an all new, highly efficient powertrain. This powertrain produces 210 kW or 282 HP, making this the most powerful and highest torque electric motor in the VW ID family.

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    The ID.7 has a drag coefficient of .23 made possible by the coupe style rear of the EV. The long wheelbase with short overhangs contributes to class leading interior space front and rear.

    VW is very excited to share the new operating and central display system with new operating system that is based on the SnapDragon Auto system. This system features the following:

    • a 38-centimetre (15-inch) infotainment system screen
    • the augmented reality head-up display
    • a new air conditioning operating concept integrated on the top level of the infotainment system as well as freely assignable favorites buttons
    • a backlit touch slider

    The interior will launch with two options that we know of:

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    With the new massage seats and the electronically dimmable panoramic sunroof, the ID.7 offers equipment options that are otherwise present only in the higher classes of premium competitors. The new panoramic sunroof with smart glass can be switched between opaque and transparent settings by touch control. Like many other functions in the ID.7, the roof can also be operated by means of natural voice commands – this takes place using the new IDA voice assistant. The optional front seats are also a new development: for the first time in a Volkswagen, they optionally offer adaptive seat Climatronic – with cooling or heating as required and also a drying function. A massage function with a seal of approval from the German Campaign for Healthier Backs (AGR) is also available. The range of options is rounded off by a 700-watt sound system from Harman Kardon: 14 high-end loudspeakers, including center speaker at the front and subwoofer in the luggage compartment, provide an impressive sound experience with the new Volkswagen limousine.

    Enhanced best-in-class assistance systems
    The Travel Assist with swarm data can take over lateral and longitudinal control of the ID.7 as needed. Volkswagen developed this feature together with CARIAD, the software company of the VW Group. If desired, the ID.7 can also use Travel Assist to support assisted lane changing on the multi-lane motorway at speeds above 90 km/h or 56 mph. The driver monitors this, but the strain of driving is significantly reduced. When it comes to parking, the electric Volkswagen can independently perform assisted maneuvers in different ways. One of these is parking with memory function over a distance of up to 50 meters or 164 feet. For this, the driver either remains sitting in the ID.7 or monitors the parking procedure from outside the vehicle using the smartphone app.

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    VW is accelerating their EV offensive committing to 10 new global models by 2026. The ID.7 is the first of these 10 new electric models that will join the ID family. Later this year, VW will introduce a compact SUV EV. The ID.7 will be produced locally in China, but production for Europe and North America will be done in Emden Germany.

    For more views of the all new ID.7 check our the media gallery here:

     

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    6 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    I like the Celesiq and everything from the Ioniq 6 down.

    The front face of the i7 is its downfall, but the side profile is handsome.

    The ID.7 I'm not sold on yet from the side.  It looks like they were trying to design a wagon and then a manager came in and said, "Actung! This is going to be sold in Amerika! Du kannst nicht!"

    I think you could say it not only about the ID.7 but the Tesla 3 and Ioniq 6 which all have the front cut off short.

    I am very surprised as I hate the nose, but I think the side profile of the I4 by BMW is my favorite right now Especially in that Green.

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    1.   Audi and Porsche 

    Not on the list...but to me, are the sexiest EV sedans to date.   Side profile or any profile for that matter.

    2022 Audi e-tron GT and RS GT Make Us Forget They're EVs

    New Carbon Fiber parts for the Porsche Taycan Turbo S – Zyrus.no

     

    2.  pains me to admit this...but the Bimmer i4.   It looks like a regualr BMW sedan 4 series sedan.  None of that nonsense of stylizing a funky EV JUST because its an EV.  

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    3.   (TIED)  (3 WAY)

    Celestiq   

    Admittedetly, the rounded rear looks a bit off.  But Im guessing pictures dont do it justice.  When I see it in the real world, Ill adjust my opinion of it. 

    Cadillac Looks To Its Electric Future With Retro-Inspired Celestiq - Forbes  Wheels

    3.  Model S

    After all these years, it still looks good.  Not as sexy as it was when it came out. Time has aged it.   But its still very very nice.  But to me, its a classic EV that is still sold.  Kinda like the Challenger.  Its an old car, but its a classic RIGHT NOW!!! 

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    3.   Lucid Air

    The side view flows nicely.  Would be SEXY AF if we were still in the 1990s.    So it g be tied with 2 othjer cars in 3rd place.

    2023 Lucid Motors Air Sapphire Exterior Photos | CarBuzz

     

    4. Ioniq 6

    Its a quirky design on any profile.  Side view actually flows nicely.  I like.  Wouldnt want to own one though.  Too droopy of you will for my tastes.  But I like nonetheless. 

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    5.  TIED (2 WAY) 

    BMW i7

    Looks like the the regualr 7 Series.  See i4 reasoning and apply it to this one.   Some might call it ugly. I wont argue it.  Side profile looks stately.  And THAT is what counts for me.   A fullsized luxury car NEEDS to look stately. And this one does.  I like a lot!

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    5.  Model 3 

    Frumpy.  Dated really really quickly.  But in all honesty, it aint bad.  

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    I dont like the rest of the cars so I wont even bother rating them.  

    Mercedes' attempts at slippery EV sedans look too much like used bar of soaps.  That kind of styling would even be too much roundedness for the 1990s.  Its not a bad look per se.  I just dont like. 

    The Polestar is too square and too tall.  Dont like.  Not stately enough.  Too tête carré to enjoy. 

    Its NOT hip to be square. 

     

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    Thanks @oldshurst442 I totally forgot the Porsche and Audi as I have not honestly seen either here in the PNW and so out of sight, out of mind. 

    Both are not bad, but something about the Porsche just turns me off as ugly. Audi is the nicer of the two IMHO.

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    4 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    VW is on steady decline,

    Changing over to EV the last few years will sag sales for a traditional ICE automaker and then there were the supply issue affecting ALL sales for everyone for 2020 and 2021. Again, this has ALL been discussed with you before. Stop ignoring it just because you can't admit when your "facts" are wrong.

     

    BTW, your favorite brand from Germany had deicing sales in 2019, 2020, and 2021 with a small bounce back in 2022. You're not exactly standing on stable ground here with your VW "assessment".

     

    (cue endless bar moving response)

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    41 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Changing over to EV the last few years will sag sales for a traditional ICE automaker and then there were the supply issue affecting ALL sales for everyone for 2020 and 2021. Again, this has ALL been discussed with you before. Stop ignoring it just because you can't admit when your "facts" are wrong.

     

    BTW, your favorite brand from Germany had deicing sales in 2019, 2020, and 2021 with a small bounce back in 2022. You're not exactly standing on stable ground here with your VW "assessment".

     

    (cue endless bar moving response)

    Switching to ICE shouldn't be hurting their sales, they still make the Golf, Jetta, Tiguan, Atlas and they introduced the Taos.  Killed the Passat but that was a sales dud anyway.  Their sales dropped because their ICE cars aren't selling and their supply chain is no doubt jacked up because they rely on Eastern Europe and Ukraine for a lot of parts.  But Tesla increased sales in the same time frame, they solved supply chain.

    Here are 2019 US sales on the left and 2022 sales on the right.  Most of these brands are done, some like Honda and Ford have lost 500,000 units, Nissan has lost about half its volume, Buick and Dodge lost half their volume,  VW is down about 1/3.   BMW, Hyundai and Kia are up slightly, Tesla more than doubled.  Mercedes down 10,000 units, but they are up in 2023, they should pass 2019 levels this year, which is pretty good considering Tesla hit the luxury market first and they survived.  Once Tesla rolls out the lower priced cars and hits the mainstream these brands that are struggling now are going to be headed for bankruptcy.  

     

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    And VW is getting outsold by BMW, Mercedes and Lexus right now and that is with VW's cheap cars.  The id4 is priced and sized like a GLB or Lexus NX, the iD7 will be priced higher than a Lexus ES.  Who is going to buy these VW's with Lexus-level pricing when people aren't buying VW's at Toyota level pricing?

    JLR, Nissan, Mitsubishi (and Renault) are done, (Subaru and Mazda will be bought by Toyota).  Honda, Stellantis and VW in 10 years will be half what they are now.  None of them stand a chance against Tesla.  Toyota has so much size and cash, I think they will put up a fight, and GM and Ford will put up a good fight in the USA, but won't have the global scale Tesla will have.  Hyundai/Kia are a strong contender, although they don't make much profit per car, so if ICE sales drop and they aren't making profit on EV's they have no margin for error.

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    39 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Switching to ICE shouldn't be hurting their sales,

    No need to read the rest of your post when your are going to be deliberately ignorant to the facts. What was Mercedes damn excuse for a three year slide before 2022? 
     

    You know what? Don’t answer it because it doesn’t matter. You are wrong, period, if you think this kind of switch doesn’t affect sales. FFS. 

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    15 hours ago, David said:

    BMW I4

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    15 hours ago, David said:

    Lucid Air

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    15 hours ago, David said:

    Tesla S

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    This is my order strictly based on looks. 

    1: BMW i4

    2: Lucid Air

    3: Model S

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    mixed bag, better looking than the other ID's but still looking chunky and weird.

    These EV interiors with their horizontal dashboards, tacked on screens and weird consoles don't feel like some of the more driver oriented cockpit interiors we've gotten used to over the last couple decades or so.

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    40 minutes ago, regfootball said:

    mixed bag, better looking than the other ID's but still looking chunky and weird.

    These EV interiors with their horizontal dashboards, tacked on screens and weird consoles don't feel like some of the more driver oriented cockpit interiors we've gotten used to over the last couple decades or so.

    Reg, if you had to choose what would your pick be for those EVs listed in regards to looks?

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    17 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

    BMW i7

    Looks like the the regualr 7 Series.  See i4 reasoning and apply it to this one.   Some might call it ugly. I wont argue it.  Side profile looks stately.  And THAT is what counts for me.   A fullsized luxury car NEEDS to look stately. And this one does.  I like a lot!

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    Am I the only one who saw 4-door Challenger at first glance? Obviously it isn't but that's what my eyes saw until I looked further. 

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    2 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Am I the only one who saw 4-door Challenger at first glance? Obviously it isn't but that's what my eyes saw until I looked further. 

    Nope never say that, I do see the front nose reminds me of a luxury 2 door that was either Infinity or Lexus, mid to backend really is too generic for me to think of any other auto.

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    Found it, 1992 Lexus SC300

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    5 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Am I the only one who saw 4-door Challenger at first glance? Obviously it isn't but that's what my eyes saw until I looked further. 

    Were you-ah been boozin' when you helucinated that?  Suckin' back on grandpa's cough medecine?

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    Yeah...you'de be the only one to see that! 

    Sorry #ReactionGifs

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    7 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Am I the only one who saw 4-door Challenger at first glance? Obviously it isn't but that's what my eyes saw until I looked further. 

    Yeah...you buggin (tripping) with that one...the 7 series in general while the proportions are right that front fascia and the angle of it is............off

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    @oldshurst442 @ccap41 @trinacriabob @NINETY EIGHT REGENCY @Robert Hall @Drew Dowdell @regfootball @smk4565

    Seems VW is doubling down as they had a small press release today as a GTX performance model that will be part of the ID.7 release.

    First preview of the new ID.7 GTX: a long-distance limousine with more power and all-wheel drive | Volkswagen Newsroom (volkswagen-newsroom.com)

    These are the only detailed images they have released on this GTX version.

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    Cars are not dead according to VW.

    FYI - Pro and Pro S were the original two trims at the announcement, both have an 82 kWh battery good for 382 miles. An upgraded battery pack is available at 91 kWh good for 435 miles. Both models get the same 210 kW or 282 HP motor in RWD. So how powerful will the GTX be in AWD will be interesting to see and I wonder if a bigger battery pack will also be available with the GTX.

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    On 4/21/2023 at 12:06 PM, ccap41 said:

    Am I the only one who saw 4-door Challenger at first glance? Obviously it isn't but that's what my eyes saw until I looked further. 

    I can see that.

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    7 hours ago, David said:

    @oldshurst442 @ccap41 @trinacriabob @NINETY EIGHT REGENCY @Robert Hall @Drew Dowdell @regfootball @smk4565

    Seems VW is doubling down as they had a small press release today as a GTX performance model that will be part of the ID.7 release.

    First preview of the new ID.7 GTX: a long-distance limousine with more power and all-wheel drive | Volkswagen Newsroom (volkswagen-newsroom.com)

    These are the only detailed images they have released on this GTX version.

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    Cars are not dead according to VW.

    FYI - Pro and Pro S were the original two trims at the announcement, both have an 82 kWh battery good for 382 miles. An upgraded battery pack is available at 91 kWh good for 435 miles. Both models get the same 210 kW or 282 HP motor in RWD. So how powerful will the GTX be in AWD will be interesting to see and I wonder if a bigger battery pack will also be available with the GTX.

    Probably will cost most than an A6 or E-class.  And I feel like the people that can afford a $60,000 sedan are going to buy an Audi or Mercedes, not a VW.  And the people that are EV or nothing will buy a Tesla.

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    1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

    Probably will cost most than an A6 or E-class.  And I feel like the people that can afford a $60,000 sedan are going to buy an Audi or Mercedes, not a VW.  And the people that are EV or nothing will buy a Tesla.

    That is one way to see it, but with both Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Tesla having reduced market share as others continue to go up, I would not count on this being more expensive than the other German brands or Tesla and I am seeing far more VW EVs on the road lately than I am seeing Audi, BMW, Mercedes. Only Tesla has more around here and even then they seem to be stacking up on the Tesla lot as across from Tesla here is Mercedes and they have plenty of EVs now on the lot too, but they are not moving.

    We are going into interesting times where people want AWD be it a car or SUV and more people are wanting an SUV. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

    If Fusion power comes to production by 2030, then you can truly kiss all ICE and Hydrogen autos goodbye.

    Microsoft says commercial use of fusion-produced energy will be available within 5 years as part of new deal with Sam Altman-backed Helion (msn.com)

    Interesting chart of days of supply.

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    OUCH, Interesting picture of those loosing market share to those gaining market share.

    USA - Flash report, Automotive sales volume, 2023 - MarkLines Automotive Industry Portal

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