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So Julie needs a replacement for the Taurus... like yesterday.

She's so damn picky it's been driving me bananas.

I can't afford a new BMW or a Cadillac so we're

thinking something new with a warranty but still

under $24K.

I might have found a winner, see if you can guess what it is....?

- It is & isn't a GM product

- RWD (with rear-biased 4-wheel drive optional)

- Motor is longitudinally mounted

- 5-speed manual available (I'm hoping I can convince her to go manual)

- Timing Chain driven valvetrain

- 24 valve V6

- 4-wheel independant suspension

- Liquid-filled engine mounts

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Can't be a Subaru, they're all AWD... It's not a Matrix/Vibe either...

Just to clarify, it it new??

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It's unibody but does have a substantial frame stamped into the undercarrige.

Just to clarify, it it new??

Yup... 2007 MY

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Question: DO you have your own place yet? If not how the hell can you afford a car at that price?

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XL7?

Remember it has to have a manual transmission option...

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Yup.... Grand Vitara is it.

The XL7 is gross, it does not offer a manual trans & more

importantly it has a transverse motor with FWD & F-AWD.

DF:

Still staying at the Condo... not to get too into the details

of all of that but I think we'll be moving to southern N.H.

As far as Julies' set of wheels have you seen her Taurus?

She can't afford to NOT replace that POS. Last thing that

I want is to have my pregnant wife spend an hour on the

side of the road in a snowstorm.

Now if the money situation was different I would buy her

something for a grand or two cash but I'm thinking since

I might be able to finance with $0/down and get a 100K

mile warranty in a vehicle that does not make me want

to projectile vomit it might not be a horrible way to go...

It's an IDEA, I'm still hoping for some 180K mile 1980s

Diesel Benz to pop up localy and MAYBE I'd be able to

get financed on it.

Now it seems completely crazy that I'd be looking at a

Japanese made NEW car but show me ONE car for $21K

that I can find with those specs: RWD, truly capable 4x4,

manual transmission & baby/kid friendly 4-door, not to

mention the Suzuki warranty.

Gotta tell you the Equinox is not my cup of tea, the

Cobalt sedan looks like @$$ and the HHR is still FWD &

Julie hates the styling... what else is out there?

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where did you find a Grand Vitara in a Riviera Hard Top?

LOL

I glanced at a CLK430 the other day as we passed by a

highline used car store and Julie said without missing a

beat "yes, yes... no B-post!" :rolleyes::P

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Congrats Sly.

I think in the pack of small SUV's GV is very underrated. I have test driven one with Manual Tranny. Not as fun as a RWD sedan, but certainly not trucky.

The interior was done under GM so is decent. The quality is somewhat not spectacular, but that is what to expect for a vehicle under $25k.

The V-6 is throaty and kinda not refined. But posts decent fuel economy numbers.

Why not a Torrent?

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Congrats Sly.

This thead is just a sort of brainstorming session for me.

I have not even decided to look into it officially just yet.

Why not a Torrent?

Too many deadly sins. Rear the first post. :P

I'll keep B-pillars out of this one for the sake of the real world.

Here's a few reasons why the Torrent would not work for me:

(so let's not go suggesting it to Julie)

- Transverse (sideways) mounted motor...

- FWD based drivetrain :puke:

- Not so great in the styling dept. styling

- That dreaded, hideous FWD overhang (it's like a fanny-pack)

- No manual trans.

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Oh and a base FWD Torrent is almost $24K.

I don't think so....

The particular Grand Vitara I looked at is $21,500

with the 5-speed manual & I can get a super low

price & maximum discount along with the rebate

since I'd be buying to off my own employer.

Again, just an idea.

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LOL

I glanced at a CLK430 the other day as we passed by a

highline used car store and Julie said without missing a

beat "yes, yes... no B-post!" :rolleyes::P

You Picked a winner ;)

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WMJ:

Almost bought the EXACT car with 30K less for $500 but then I backed off when I noticed a rotted strut tower.

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Aren't the '70s & at least early '80s M-B's particularly known for rotting out prematurely?

The rare occasion when I happen to see one- it's always doing a quick impression of the Tulsa '57. There are 2 in the next town, look like early '80s, and both are toast at this point (one never moves tho it's parked on the street, another is parked on the grass of someone's lawn).

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A Suzuki? I am shocked and appauled. The very thought of you of all people, who proclaims he hates most Japanese cars on a daily basis buying on just isn't right.

Now it seems completely crazy that I'd be looking at a

Japanese made NEW car but show me ONE car for $21K

that I can find with those specs: RWD, truly capable 4x4,

manual transmission & baby/kid friendly 4-door, not to

mention the Suzuki warranty.

*Slaps you*

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Starting at $21,190

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A Suzuki? I am shocked and appauled. The very thought of you of all people, who proclaims he hates most Japanese cars on a daily basis buying on just isn't right.

*Slaps you*

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Starting at $21,190

The wait for it is like 4 months and he needed the car day before yesterday. :P

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The wait for it is like 4 months and he needed the car day before yesterday. :P

I don't buy that as an excuse from someone who is so pro-American and anti-Japanese.

Next thing you know he'll be looking to trade that Buick in for a Camry :P

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The Wrangler?

1. The new Wrangler is uuuuuugly, even though the four door looks better than the two door.

2. Ride is too harsh for a practical family vehicle.

3. I'm not going to buy a cloth top truck for my pregnant wife.

4. The hardtop 4 door is not going to be anywhere near $21K unless it's a 4x2. I'm not buying a 2wd Jeep & spending $22K

& most importantly

5. Julie hates Jeep Wranglers, her ex had one & she hated every minute of it.

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Anywho.... I wish I could get a quick loan for $2000 and buy Julie some

RWD car that would suit her needs and not repulse me, she's one of

those women convinced that a Crown Vic. or Caprice Classic is H-U-G-E

and she would hit things with it.... but she loves BMWs that we can not

afford right now.

Balthazar:

Mercedes Benz cars up here that I notice rusting quickly are the 1960s

and 1970s ones. The 1983 I looked at with 240K on it had no more rust

than the average vehicle fom that era and much less than the average

Honda or Toyota. Even the MBs that are VERY rusty and have severe

rot through are still a lot safer than the average Japanese car with rust

on the rockers & rear 1/4s... the Mercedes sheetmetal is MUCH thicker

than the Pepsi-can thick sheetmetal that Hondas & Toyotas are made of.

Given the choice I'll take a German car over a Japanese one anyday.

The 535xi & even the 3-series are a little out of my price range. :rolleyes:

and the 1-series, even if it was available already, is quite ugly.

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CPO CTS under extended warranty.

Seriously, if you get a Grand Vitara, good luck; you'll need it. My friend had a Tracker, an '02. Man. It was a 4cyl and he never used the a/c but rarely (yes, in Florida, yes, in summer) and he got maybe 18, 19mpg.

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18-19 mpg in a unibody "truck" with a built in ladder frame is not horrible.

Granted it's all the more reason to buy the Banana Boat off XP and get 13-16.

CPO CTS around here is $25-27K, and it's very hard to get financed on a used

car with not-so stellar credit. I would need like $1500 down and if I had

$1500 cash in hand I'd already be driving that Diesel Benz from Tewksbury or

I'd have bought the Banana Boat ('77 Caddy Coupe deVille) back from XP &

have Julie drive that for the time being and then get her a car before snow hits

so I could use the Caddy for a winter beater.

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