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Mitsubishi Motors North America - Up 32.3% (7,963 Vehicles Sold This Month, 49,544 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Nissan Group U.S. - Up 13.3% (124,228 Vehicles Sold This Month, 736,483 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Jaguar Land Rover North America - Up 10.5% (5,860 Vehicles Sold This Month, 40,148 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Audi of America - Up 8.3% (18,262 Vehicles Sold This Month, 93,615 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
FCA US LLC - Up 8% (185,035 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,082,143 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
BMW Group U.S. - Up 7.8% (38,350 Vehicles Sold This Month, 198,883 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Subaru of America, Inc. - Up 7.2% (44,335 Vehicles Sold This Month, 272,418 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Kia Motors America - Up 6.9% (54,137 Vehicles Sold This Month, 310,952 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Mercedes-Benz USA - Up 6.4% (31,260 Vehicles Sold This Month, 182,128 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Volkswagen of America - Up 5.58% (30,436 Vehicles Sold This Month, 174,442 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
American Honda Motor Co. - Up 4.2% (30,436 Vehicles Sold This Month, 174,442 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Toyota Motor Sales - Up 4.1% (209,912 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,231,440 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Mazda North American Operations - Up 3.9% (27,223 Vehicles Sold This Month, 158,996 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Porsche Cars North America, Inc. - Up 2.9% (4,223 Vehicles Sold This Month, 25,138 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Ford Motor Company - Up 1.6% (225,647 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,293,621 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Maserati North America, Inc. - Up 0.8% (974 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,304 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Hyundai Motor America - Up 0.1% (67,502 Vehicles Sold This Month, 371,150 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Volvo Cars of North America, LLC - 0% (5,985 Vehicles Sold This Month, 29,366 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
General Motors Co. - Down 3% (259,353 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,505,545 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)

 

Brands:
Acura - Up 38.6% (15,527 Vehicles Sold This Month, 87,087 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Mitsubishi - Up 32.3% (7,963 Vehicles Sold This Month, 49,544 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Chrysler - Up 28% (30,809 Vehicles Sold This Month, 170,248 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Jeep - Up 25% (71,529 Vehicles Sold This Month, 401,689 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Infiniti - Up 16.5% (9,985 Vehicles Sold This Month, 64,280 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Land Rover - Up 15% (4,643 Vehicles Sold This Month, 32,312 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Smart - Up 15% (774 Vehicles Sold This Month, 3,624 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
MINI - Up 14.8% (6,174 Vehicles Sold This Month, 30,260 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Lincoln - Up 14.5% (8,326 Vehicles Sold This Month, 47,112 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Nissan - Up 13% (114,243 Vehicles Sold This Month, 672,203 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Lexus - Up 11.1% (26,121 Vehicles Sold This Month, 158,848 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Sprinter - Up 10.9% (2,442 Vehicles Sold This Month, 13,534 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Audi - Up 8.3% (18,262 Vehicles Sold This Month, 93,615 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
GMC - Up 8% (47,051 Vehicles Sold This Month, 264,713 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Subaru - Up 7.2% (44,335 Vehicles Sold This Month, 272,418 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Kia - Up 6.9% (54,137 Vehicles Sold This Month, 310,952 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
BMW - Up 6.5% (32,176 Vehicles Sold This Month, 168,623 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Mercedes-Benz - Up 5.8% (28,044 Vehicles Sold This Month, 164,970 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Volkswagen - Up 5.58% (30,436 Vehicles Sold This Month, 174,442 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Mazda - Up 3.9% (27,223 Vehicles Sold This Month, 158,996 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Toyota - Up 3.1% (183,791 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,072,592 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Porsche - Up 2.9% (4,223 Vehicles Sold This Month, 25,138 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Ram - Up 2% (36,078 Vehicles Sold This Month, 230,946 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Ford - Up 1.2% (217,321 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,246,509 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Honda - Up 0.9% (118,870 Vehicles Sold This Month, 665,114 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Maserati - Up 0.8% (974 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,304 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Hyundai - Up 0.1% (67,502 Vehicles Sold This Month, 371,150 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Volvo - 0% (5,985 Vehicles Sold This Month, 29,366 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Cadillac - Down 3.1% (13,515 Vehicles Sold This Month, 80,899 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Jaguar - Down 3.6% (1,217 Vehicles Sold This Month, 7,836 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Chevrolet - Down 3.9% (181,256 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,053,619 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Dodge - Down 14% (43,457 Vehicles Sold This Month, 257,142 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Buick - Down 18.1% (17,531 Vehicles Sold This Month, 106,314 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Fiat - Down 30% (3,137 Vehicles Sold This Month, 21,798 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
Alfa Romeo - N/A (25 Vehicles Sold This Month, 320 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)


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Wow, good work on the numbers. Having them all together and organized. Props to you, sir.

 

Anyway, Not to start a pissing match(even though it probably will), What happened to all the lost market share by Ford and GM gaining it, guys(the one(s) know who I'm talking about  :huh:  )

 

Also, Go :unitedstates: !

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Wow, good work on the numbers. Having them all together and organized. Props to you, sir.

 

Anyway, Not to start a pissing match(even though it probably will), What happened to all the lost market share by Ford and GM gaining it, guys(the one(s) know who I'm talking about  :huh:  )

 

Also, Go :unitedstates: !

 

Seeing as its Canada Day today...Hooray for CANADA!!!  :thumbsup:

:canada:                      :CanadaEmoticon:

 

(that would be 2 more emoticons used from the library)

 

 

OK...there is no need to derail this any further...

My thoughts on Toyota's performance

BOOOO!!!!!!

:Toyota:

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Wow, good work on the numbers. Having them all together and organized. Props to you, sir.

Anyway, Not to start a pissing match(even though it probably will), What happened to all the lost market share by Ford and GM gaining it, guys(the one(s) know who I'm talking about :huh: )

Also, Go :unitedstates: !

One month does not a trend make.

And to be honest, I'm still amazed at the F-Series' lack of success to be much bothered by one off month at GM. Ford has either achieved market saturation for their pickup recipe or they can't choose a frame vendor to save their life (I'm betting on the first one). Meanwhile, while Ford has edged closer to GM, Mopar is still approaching Ford at a much quicker pace. Not bad for an outfit that has almost zero presence in the small-car and luxury segments, wot?

Finally, yes... I've been a bit busy with work and Canada Day stuff to spend much time ruminating on these numbers. But I've spoken my peace now.

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Ford Highlights:

 

DEARBORN, Mich., – Strong consumer demand for its newest products pushed Ford Motor Company total U.S. June sales 2 percent higher, to 225,647 vehicles sold. “Strong retail momentum continues building for our newest vehicles – including F-150, Mustang, Edge, and now Explorer,” said Mark LaNeve, Ford vice president, U.S. Marketing, Sales and Service. “The Ford brand’s average transaction prices have increased $2,700 versus a year ago – more than triple the industry average – while our incentives are down, showing how much customers value our investment in new vehicles with the latest technologies.” F-Series average transaction prices reached an all-time record in June, with average transaction prices moving above $44,000 per truck – $3,600 higher than last year. The all-new F-150 is turning twice as fast on dealer lots than the industry average for half-ton pickups, as Ford continues building dealer stocks. Ford brand SUV sales were up 10 percent year over year, producing the best June sales results since 2002 – with 64,885 vehicles sold. Sales of the new Explorer are off to a fast start, with a total of 20,377 sold, an increase of 30 percent versus a year ago. Sales of the all-new Edge increased 30 percent in June versus last year, with 12,587 vehicles sold. Edge continues to turn quickly on dealer lots – at just 15 days – while the new Explorer is turning in just seven days. Ford van sales totaling 21,419 vehicles represent a 31 percent increase relative to last year, for the best June results since 1999. During the first half of the year, van sales totaled 109,783 vehicles – a 26 percent increase and our best first half van sales performance since 1988. The all-new Transit, with sales of 12,134 vans last month, is driving Ford’s segment growth, with its strongest-ever sales month. Mustang sales were up 54 percent, with 11,719 cars sold. This represents Mustang’s best June performance since 2007. Mustang sales are particularly strong in America’s largest sports car region, Southern California, where retail sales are up 157 percent in June.

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Wow, good work on the numbers. Having them all together and organized. Props to you, sir.

 

Thanks. Its a lot of work, but I think it is a good thing to share.

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I predict Mustang sales totals for the year will soon eclipse both Camaro and Chally combined.  What a year so far.  

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I predict Mustang sales totals for the year will soon eclipse both Camaro and Chally combined.  What a year so far.  

 

that would be an achievement as Mustang hasn't exceeded Camaro consistently for many years, however, it is a partial year for Camaro this year, so this will likely be Ford's only chance to do it easily. 

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I predict Mustang sales totals for the year will soon eclipse both Camaro and Chally combined.  What a year so far.  

 

that would be an achievement as Mustang hasn't exceeded Camaro consistently for many years, however, it is a partial year for Camaro this year, so this will likely be Ford's only chance to do it easily. 

 

Yeah, there has been plenty of month to month wins, but not a whole year.  But Mustang seems to be keeping up the pace, not to mention global sales as well.  Camaro will not see volume increases with new model until 1st quarter of 2016 when the base engine launches, as SS launches first in 4th qtr.  So Mustang will have quite a lead.

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I predict Mustang sales totals for the year will soon eclipse both Camaro and Chally combined.  What a year so far.

 

that would be an achievement as Mustang hasn't exceeded Camaro consistently for many years, however, it is a partial year for Camaro this year, so this will likely be Ford's only chance to do it easily.

Given that the new Mustang is no sure thing to outperform the current Camaro on the street, I really don't like its chances in the showroom once the new one drops. And a few thousand per year to Richard Hammond clones in Europe won't really help when you consider that the Camaro's new platform has already sold tens of thousands of copies.

Bottom line: I suspect he Mustang's sales trajectory will mirror that of the F-Series, possibly for the same reason.

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I disagree.  Why?  I think this market is actually going to GROW.  I think Challenger sales will stay level but I think Camaro and Mustang sales will take off with the millennials.  Even though I am not partial to the new Mustang's looks, it is growing on me and you can't argue about the performance.  The 4-cyl turbo motors piss off the purists to some degree but I think they are the primary reason sales will grow.

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I disagree.  Why?  I think this market is actually going to GROW.  I think Challenger sales will stay level but I think Camaro and Mustang sales will take off with the millennials.  Even though I am not partial to the new Mustang's looks, it is growing on me and you can't argue about the performance.  The 4-cyl turbo motors piss off the purists to some degree but I think they are the primary reason sales will grow.

Actually, you totally can argue the performance. Most of the reviews of the EB Mustang have said that the performance is adequate, but the added mass saps the power somewhat. And the V8 has no power-to-weight advantage over the old car, though obviously the new rear suspension is a huge step in the right direction.

The Camaro will once again be a love it/leave it styling proposition. But that will be its only possible weakness. The base turbo four will do fine against Ford's V6, it's Cadillac-sourced 3.6 will do fine against the EB, and the LT1 will roll over the Coyote.

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Huh wha?

Ummm, pony cars do not sell based on a few 1/10's (plus or minus) performance advantage among their peers.  That is quite possibly the silliest thing I have ever read.  Even when camaro was all new against a tired old chassis Mustang, it did not sell anywhere near these sales deltas right out of the gate, and certainly not for a sustained period, as Mustang appears to be doing.  Mustang appears to have hit the sweet spot in many ways that stirs the flames for fans, and THAT is the reason sales are twice the camaro.

 

Sorry that does not sit well with some.

As for performance capacity, I give you the GT350.  At least for now.

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Ya... everyone knows that ponycar customers are conpletely oblivious to performance numbers.

...

Sorry, had to stop and laugh at that. But I'm done now so I can keep typing.

Anyhow... ya. The Mustang is much like the F-Series: greatly improved over its predecessor and impressive when evaluated on its own. But put it against competition and it inevitably wilts.

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Huh wha?

Ummm, pony cars do not sell based on a few 1/10's (plus or minus) performance advantage among their peers.  That is quite possibly the silliest thing I have ever read.  Even when camaro was all new against a tired old chassis Mustang, it did not sell anywhere near these sales deltas right out of the gate, and certainly not for a sustained period, as Mustang appears to be doing.  Mustang appears to have hit the sweet spot in many ways that stirs the flames for fans, and THAT is the reason sales are twice the camaro.

 

Sorry that does not sit well with some.

As for performance capacity, I give you the GT350.  At least for now.

 

eh... sales are twice that of camaro because camaro is at the end of its current run. 

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Huh wha?

Ummm, pony cars do not sell based on a few 1/10's (plus or minus) performance advantage among their peers.  That is quite possibly the silliest thing I have ever read.  Even when camaro was all new against a tired old chassis Mustang, it did not sell anywhere near these sales deltas right out of the gate, and certainly not for a sustained period, as Mustang appears to be doing.  Mustang appears to have hit the sweet spot in many ways that stirs the flames for fans, and THAT is the reason sales are twice the camaro.

 

Sorry that does not sit well with some.

As for performance capacity, I give you the GT350.  At least for now.

 

eh... sales are twice that of camaro because camaro is at the end of its current run. 

 

When camaro arrived all new after years of being deep-sixed, it was on the heels of Mustang being at the end as well.

Even then, it never sold at anything close to the sales delta we see now, and have seen since last December.

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The new Camaro will more than compete on the basis of performance.  The question is, will it compete on style?  Even though I am not a huge fan of the latest Mustang's styling, other people's dollars are speaking.  I fear GM will pull in their loyal base as well as performance oriented buyers but they may not pick up as many sales to millennials that want an efficient coupe with style.  I'm not sure they went far enough with the redo for that.

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Huh wha?

Ummm, pony cars do not sell based on a few 1/10's (plus or minus) performance advantage among their peers.  That is quite possibly the silliest thing I have ever read.  Even when camaro was all new against a tired old chassis Mustang, it did not sell anywhere near these sales deltas right out of the gate, and certainly not for a sustained period, as Mustang appears to be doing.  Mustang appears to have hit the sweet spot in many ways that stirs the flames for fans, and THAT is the reason sales are twice the camaro.

 

Sorry that does not sit well with some.

As for performance capacity, I give you the GT350.  At least for now.

 

eh... sales are twice that of camaro because camaro is at the end of its current run.

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...but seriously now: the Camaro is going to be just fine. I realize that the styling is going to remain polarizing, but GM is aware of that as well. Those who don't like it hate it, those who do like it buy it. The last part's the clincher. The class-leading chassis and we some power to weight is just the capper.

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...but seriously now: the Camaro is going to be just fine. I realize that the styling is going to remain polarizing, but GM is aware of that as well. Those who don't like it hate it, those who do like it buy it. The last part's the clincher. The class-leading chassis and we some power to weight is just the capper.

 

I like the interior of the new Camaro much much better than Mustang.  The mustang's interior is a bit of a let down after seeing the sexy exterior..... plus, I still loath Sync. 

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...but seriously now: the Camaro is going to be just fine. I realize that the styling is going to remain polarizing, but GM is aware of that as well. Those who don't like it hate it, those who do like it buy it. The last part's the clincher. The class-leading chassis and we some power to weight is just the capper.

 

I like the interior of the new Camaro much much better than Mustang.  The mustang's interior is a bit of a let down after seeing the sexy exterior..... plus, I still loath Sync. 

 

BUT BUT BUT Sync is your ultimate embedded Microsoft Kernel Friend so it has to be better than anything else! ;)

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      Mazda - Down 3.8% (20,660 Vehicles Sold This Month, 274,455 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz - Up 0.6% (31,022 Vehicles Sold This Month, 283,943 Vehicles Sold This Year) 
      Mercedes-Benz Vans - Down 43.3% (1,857 Vehicles Sold This Month, 34,062 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      MINI - Down 12.6% (3,528 Vehicles Sold This Month, 40,887 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mitsubishi - Down 10.7% (7,688 Vehicles Sold This Month, 109,088 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Nissan - Down 21.6% (96,427 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,213,942 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Porsche - Up 2.1% (5,673 Vehicles Sold This Month, 53,116 Vehicles Sold This Year) 
      Ram Trucks - Up 44% (57,970 Vehicles Sold This Month, 529,173 Vehicles Sold This Year) 
      Smart - Down 23.1% (100 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,154 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Subaru - Up 9.8% (56,782 Vehicles Sold This Month, 615,594 Vehicles Sold This Year) 
      Toyota - Down 0.3% (163,977 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,942,976 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Volkswagen - Down 8% (26,789 Vehicles Sold This Month, 322,017 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Volvo - Up 4.2% (8,181 Vehicles Sold This Month, 89,437 Vehicles Sold This Year) 

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