Jaguar News: Rumorpile: F-Type Could Offer An Electric Powertrain

[William Maley]

The next-generation Jaguar F-Type is expected to arrive in 2021 and according to a report from Autocar, the company is deciding what powertrains should go into it.

One option being considered is going with a fully electric powertrain. This would allow designers to push the boundaries of the next F-Type's design. Going electric would also allow for a lower center of gravity if Jaguar was able to mount the batteries below the floor. It is unclear how much power could be on tap, but we would expect a noticeable increase to the 197 horsepower electric motors used in the i-Pace.

Another powertrain up for consideration is a V8 sourced from BMW. Codenamed Project Jennifer, the V8 in question is a 4.4L twin-turbo producing 640 horsepower and 600 pound-feet of torque - allowing the F-Type to challenge the most powerful Porsche 911s. Why is Jaguar sourcing a V8 from BMW and not developing its own? Blame falling V8 sales.

Of course, there is the option of offering both gas and electric powertains. While that would limit design freedom by just going with an electric powertrain only, it would widen the appeal of the F-Type.

One item that is certain is the platform. Autocar reports that the next F-Type will use an aluminum-intensive platform that will help reduce weight and make the interior slightly more spacious. It could also allow Jaguar to build a successor to the XK, something we reported back in May.

Source: Autocar

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[David]

Be interesting to see what they end up doing as I had read that they were considering going all electric and just forgoing ICE all together.

[riviera74]

5 hours ago, dfelt said:

Be interesting to see what they end up doing as I had read that they were considering going all electric and just forgoing ICE all together.

Forgoing ICE altogether might be brilliant. . . . . or a total disaster if Jaguar/Land Rover do it wrong.  Tesla is not tearing up the car sales charts, luxury or otherwise.

[David]

4 hours ago, riviera74 said:

Forgoing ICE altogether might be brilliant. . . . . or a total disaster if Jaguar/Land Rover do it wrong.  Tesla is not tearing up the car sales charts, luxury or otherwise.

Do not tell Musk that.  Course if you build a full size truck and SUV plus use an existing real auto assembly line, they could probably build and sell profitable a pure ev product line like Rivian is planning to do.

[balthazar]

EVERYBODY is "planning on being profitable", yet the gutters & storm drains of history are PACKED with failures.

[David]

18 minutes ago, balthazar said:

EVERYBODY is "planning on being profitable", yet the gutters & storm drains of history are PACKED with failures.

True, this just might finally clean house on who is still in the game in 20 years.  

[ocnblu]

It seems that old guys in blinding bright golf shirts are the only ones who want to put miles on electric conveyances.  Non-street legal. 

 

[balthazar]

Seemingly getting brushed aside in all the talk of 'GM trucks are Too Damned High priced'; the Rivian is coming in at $eventy thou$and dollar$. This is where journalistic hype tips it's hand- the market out there is NOT going to swallow any considerable volume at those prices; it's not a feasible business case.

Jaguar is just a niche player; going all EV will only cement that status thru at least the next decade.

[David]

2 hours ago, balthazar said:

Seemingly getting brushed aside in all the talk of 'GM trucks are Too Damned High priced'; the Rivian is coming in at $eventy thou$and dollar$. This is where journalistic hype tips it's hand- the market out there is NOT going to swallow any considerable volume at those prices; it's not a feasible business case.

True, they could probably drop $10,000 if they did RWD only as an option, but right now everything is AWD with Torque Vectoring and I suspect enough people will buy Rivian due to the comfy space inside being full size. 

Full Size EV is a game changer that no one else has touched yet.

I wonder how much GM would charge for a full size RWD and AWD Pickup? 🤔

[balthazar]

Dave, $10K is not enough. Rivian said something about 1 million sales, didn't they? Tesla has taken 15 years to reach what- 160K/yr with 3 models?
Silverado. et al, start in the low 30s. Starting where your competition ends their pricing is an iron-clad guarantee of niche-level sales - show me ANY model moving 250K in the US at a $70K base MSRP - I'll wait.

[Robert Hall]

7 minutes ago, balthazar said:

 Tesla has taken 15 years to reach what- 160K/yr with 3 models? 

Edit--about 6 1/2 years.  The Model S started shipping in June 2012.  Or 10 years going back to the Roadster. 

Edited November 28, 2018 by Robert Hall

[balthazar]

Company was founded in 2003.

[Robert Hall]

19 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Company was founded in 2003.

 Rivian has been around 9 years it sounds like. It seems EV startup companies have long product gestation periods prior to actual production. 

Edited November 28, 2018 by Robert Hall

[ccap41]

They were producing cars in 2008.

Edited November 28, 2018 by ccap41

[balthazar]

^ 10-4 : 10 years then; a full decade of production to just eclipse the Chevy Cruze's production. Gains in this segment (IE: EVs) are glacial.

I suspect some quantity of Model 3 buyers are 'saving face' by ante-ing up to the circa $50K price when they signed on for the "$35K" price. Then again the 2 years wait time has allowed buyer's investments to appreciate enough to offset that huge step-up. :D