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36 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

Dealers have state governments in their employ to maintain their positions in the car market.  Everyone with money have their own lobbies to protect and defend their interests.

Very true, the days of the protection should end. I agree everyone has their own interests to defend.

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

I don't think we have anything to worry about here. Tesla is slower than the legacies when it comes to releasing an all-new product. If it hasn't been announced and shown yet (which it hasn't) then we're looking at 5-7 years, minimum until somebody can buy one. 

And the legacies don't lobby for their own interests...hence the dealership model making it difficult for Tesla to sell automobiles for no legitimate reason other than legacy companies pulling strings behind closed doors. 

They're all the same when it comes to this. They all want the upper hand in everything they can.  

I agree, the legacy do lobby for their own interest too. 

Yes we can all agree that the dealerships only car about themselves and not the consumers.

Days of protected business needs to end. Have them compete on price and service no matter if the product is sold Direct or not.

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2 hours ago, David said:

First statement is not totally true as Tesla is struggling to get production online everywhere except where they slept with the communist government in China. Musk is a Narcissistic power-hungry lying sob. Why do people not question how the man is the only company that did not have to have a partner to sell in China or build plants? Some serious questions need to be asked about him.

Second statement on how fast GM and Ford can get there is pretty clear, their battery plants are all coming online between the end of this year and end of 2024 with additional plants being planned already and in the case of batteries, Ford and GM are both looking at converting ICE plants into Battery production as stated by their press releases.

Yes, GM can keep that promise I believe. Especially true with the global recession we are entering.

Tesla WILL NOT be bringing out a cheaper model. This has been clearly stated by them.

Why Tesla is not going to build a low cost EV any time soon, if ever (thedriven.io) From February 2022

Tesla's per-car production cost down to $36,000, cheaper model and robotaxi still on the roadmap | TechSpot 

Only days ago Tesla executives have confirmed that a cheaper model and robo taxis are still on the roadmap, but the Tesla 3 and Y models are consuming all resources and they see no need to focus on a cheaper model any time soon. Possible in 5 years or so.

So based on this, I doubt Tesla is going to beat GM or Ford or for that matter the Koreans to cheaper EVs.

Will be interesting to see how the auto industry shakes out over the next 18 to 24 months with a global recession and the dislike for Chinese products, I doubt China will enter the US market for auto's, especially EVs any time soon.


Tesla will produce 500k units in Q4, so that puts them at a 2 million per year rate.  2 years from now that could be 3 million per year.  If they get caught up with their own demand and get the Cybertruck, Roadster and Semi done, maybe in 2025 they start looking at a cheaper model.

The tax credit for American made EV’s is what might save the automakers that currently build here.  Without that China would for sure bring cheaper EV’s and undercut everyone in price and I suspect they would sell if a Hyundai Ioniq 5 is $50k and the Chinese knockoff is $30k.

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Looking forward to seeing it in person.  I like the current generation.   I like the red convertible w/ the red seat trim.  A V8 convertible w/ a manual would go nicely w/ my '69 and '87. 

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