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I know for a fact none of those drive like a car. At all. The fact you even say that is mind blowing.

Have a classic car calendar at work, November is 1950 Oldsmobile 88, what a beautiful car

Custom-bodied 1937 V-16 Cadillac, 1 of 2 V-16s exported to Switzerland that year, sitting in a field in soft decay, 1968 (since returned to the US and fully restored).

@dfelt Everybody has their own life circumstances, nobody is judging that. However, to be fair you have probably the most gas guzzling, most inefficient fleet of cars among the members here, yet you preach the most about saving gas and going electric. Kind of hypocritical, don't you think so?

Lincoln down fifteen percent...Christmas came in November this year. Ram way up...no surprises. Jeep doing well...as an enthusiast I like that...glad to.see them doing well.

But the company is toast.

Correct..the new generation of Focus won't be sold here, as part of Ford's 'kill-all-cars-except-for-Mustang' US strategy for failure..

Ohhh... so you mean people who drive Suburbans, Escalades, and V8 Trailblazers? You have no leg to stand on. You prefer to talk the talk while failing to walk the walk. Again, a government mandate does not make a desirable automobile.

dfelt is like the Oprah of C&G... EVERY POST GETS AN EV! YOU GET AN EV, AND YOU GET AN EV... EVERYBODY GETS AN EV!

Car choices in families can be interesting...many couples I know each buy their own cars...often very different products from different manufacturers..and they never drive each other's vehicle unless it's in the shop. My folks were old school, my Dad would buy cars for my Mom--usually Ford or Mercury personal luxury coupes, and a big sedan (Mercury or Lincoln) and a fun car for himself. My sister with each of her 3 husbands always bought her own cars. It was funny, with husband #2 they had the same color, make and model--both drove gray '85 Nissan 300ZXes when they met.

Amazing to realize that the only US brand compact mainstream fwd sedans left are from Chevy.

No but you'll criticize somebody for their "dated" mindset if they aren't on board with EVs. And this is what makes it ironic. Well, the biggest supporter doesn't have one yet so I'm not sure why you believe that.

@dfelt This is all very cool, what you did with the house, I am currently trying to make my house as efficient as possible as well to minimize heating and cooling bills. However, this is not a home improvement website. Your cars are still are big gas guzzlers regardless of who uses them and how they are used. So until you actually show pictures of the converted electric Suburban or Bolt/Tesla on your driveway it is still hypocritical to criticize others while driving an Escalade. And you got no argument from me personally regarding the electric cars, they are the future, just not the present, not yet.

It's easy to be the fastest growing when you were one of the weakest to begin with.

M-B vans are up 16% year to date over last year, and up 71% in Oct 18 compared to Oct 17.

Yes, she drives the SS the most, but will take the Escalade, Suburban or Durango which ever is easiest to get out. They all drive very easily like a car.

IIRC Focus is no longer going to be sold in USA.

Not the greatest across the board but nice to see some things are up, lol.

And as I have stated as have others, I have a spouse to satisfy and while I would have been happy to buy a Bolt, as more options come on the market, I will end up buying as to why I do not have a car payment or am buying any ICE auto. I am waiting for more EV options. Might look tight from that photo, but until your actually sitting inside, it is amazing how much room there is. 100% disagree since a single person he has no one to please other than himself. I have a spouse to keep happy as to why I have not bought anything new since 2008. 10 years and waiting for more EV options.

I am thinking Faraday owners will be joining Studebaker owners in the orphan car club.

camry V6- 301 HP, 3500 lbs, 14.3 in the 1/4. Merc starts out at the same weight stock, but no doubt it gained hundred & hundreds & hundreds of pounds. Tesla Model S is 4700-5000 lbs. I think it'd be much closer to a Camry than people suspect. Something modern/ slippery/ glossy seems fine to me to be dead silent. Something 70 years old and rusty should be making visceral noises; a hot rod. I find this akin to putting one of those Rolls Royce grille hoods on a VW bug.

400hp, 470ft/lbs torque...RWD. I'm sure it drives great..no Camry or Corolla would drive like that..

Far away future has no future.