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2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo E in Walnut Brown Trail Rated package Trailering package $38,530.

CT6 sold 7,270 units thru Sept. In the same period, the bmw 7 sold 6,126 units and the audi a8 sold a mere 656 units. Is it a 'perception that exists therefore it's reality' that the CT6 "doesn't sell well", or merely an erroneous judgement that exists, instead? Where should the CT6 sales level be at, or is it a matter of 'the CT6 doesn't sell well, the 7-series sells even worse and the a8 sells abysmally poorly'? Because I read these judgemental calls on the CT6 sales performance frequently and I am always left wondering- where is the poster's opinion of other large luxury sedan sales? Have you read a single comment on the A8/S8's dismal sales in any review? Ever? Why are these foreign brands somehow rendered immune to the same mainstream volume template? - - - - - Plug in EVs will be about 350K units in the US for 2018 (313K thru November). US total vehicle sales thru Nov are at 15,646,xxx. 313K out of 15,646K is 2.0%. Yes, sales are growing, but people HAVE to be cognisant of the fact that despite the recent growth, the SHARE is still really really really tiny. And again I am brought back around to the CT6 sales performance. The same template applied to EVs would constantly bemoan how they 'don't sell well' and 'are unprofitable', but that's barely an uncommon whisper. I for one am not willing to sit here and ignore the facts like so many others. EVs may one day eclipse IC vehicles in this country. The chances are quite real, I believe. Will they ever put the IC totally out of the picture? I strongly doubt it. Will they exceed 50% of the market? They have a decent chance, but it absolutely won't be in 10 years. If you follow the plot line, that event is a good 30 years in the future, minimum, and despite all the water cooler / podcast buzz. It takes time to see consumer product growth, esp when the bulk of the segment is priced so much higher than the average vehicle price. People who believe 'EV dominance' is a 10-year event are being totally unrealistic at this point.

Every 'journalistic' musing on GM is ALWAYS put thru the filter of 'volume'. It's like people expecting a Ford to only be available in black.

to anyone questioning my post.. and as soon as Toyota decided to finally break from their tired old old old old Corolla formula.. and put something "new" in it.. it breaks. Toyota RECALLS NEW COROLLA FOR CVT ISSUES See.. That's exactly what I was saying in another thread. WHAT EXACTLY IS GM's EXPECTATION, and why does the media try to see anything that is not selling on the level of the Camry as a failure. Technically the CT6 is the best selling of the larger Luxos.. Even if U only used the same price point level as a starting LS460.. I'd bet it would still be selling more than it

First off EVs are NOT TOYS! Sedcond, for the size and what is currently offered, there is no compromises with electrics, they have beaten many times ICE auto's. Third, ICE is the present, will become a dwindling of the future in YOUR LIFE TIME! I believe there is enough competition for competent assembly line workers to keep wages inline. Too much info and protective rights especially for companies from socialist Europe to try and go rock bottom cheap wages. Quality will keep things in check I believe.

Okay, good, it's something that some mechanics will do. It's not unheard of. And I'm guessing this part is performing as it should.

Anecdotally, I know my local independent repair shop ordered an alternator for my sister's Cadillac from Amazon when it was in the shop a couple months ago, they said it was cheaper and faster than sourcing it other ways.

??? What do you even mean? Of course they are!

Asian countries honor? Have you been reading about all the recent Japanese and Korean automotive related scandals where they've been caught with their pants down? Pishposh.

1. They can spray penetrant on the plugs if they're really tight in there. Kroil is among the best on the market. 3. I don't see a garage willing to wait 24 hrs min for an Amazon package when their business model is 'turn & burn' as far as getting vehicles in & out the door. The longer a vehicle sits in a service bay the less invoices they write. But you need to ask them your question.

Yeah, I do know you quite well, Balthy. Fom all the guys Ive talked to on automotive forums, and there has been plenty, you Balthy, are a top 5 poster for me on the level of respect I have for you. Although it did not seem that way the way I responded to you the last couple of times, that was me just being me...sometimes goofy. Sometimes funny. Sometimes to the direct and to the point. And yes, I too am a fact-based guy. The thing is, perception is not vapor when perception rules how a society thinks and lives their lives ( the overly PC world we currently live in ) , how we buy products to consume and eat (veganism is the new fad that is gaining a lot of steam and well, the basis of this thread...like you said...people think Toyotas are great while GM cars are crap...its a reality that exists) and elects their leaders (Trump, Brexit, in Quebec the liberal leadership of 4 years that saw Quebec actually get back in the black only to elect a pseudo separatist party but they do not want to push that....because Quebecois do not want that, but just in case...) CT6s do not sell well. Continentals even less. Im not concerned how many CT6s sell. But I am concerned at the money GM spent on it though...only to cancel it. Wrong assumption that the CT6 is canceled? Quite possible. But the leaders of GM are going full steam ahead with...EVs. (pun intended even if the pun is about differing energies) What should be concerning you, Balthy, with GM, is that GM is willing to ditch a model with mediocre sales for a product that will, according to you even, will be selling less as EVs are what, not even 1% of total auto sales in the US? GM it seems, is having more faith in EVs than they do for the CT6? Im a believer in EV cars being the future faster than most people think it will be and yet, even I do not think that ditching the CT6 is a smart idea as even I think EVs are not gonna replace the ICE cars tomorrow. In other words, I do not think an EV Cadillac will be more successful in the market place than a CT6. Cadillac's marketing is horrid. Cadillac's marketing wont convince Telsa buyers to buy an EV Cadillac...

And again, I agree with this part of your post 100000000% And in reality, if you read my previous posts, if you read between the lines, I am saying EXACTLY that... The difference is that in your post, you are defending GM and not mentioning the reasons why all these publications cater to the hatred of American cars. I mentioned the reasons why. Ill go further though, in saying why these publications cater to the hatred. Advertising dollars that the foreign makes paid just for them to belittle American cars... And all that fueled the negative stigma that the Big 3 STILL have to endure today. However, this negative stigma does not seem to have spilled over to the CUVs and SUVs. Maybe, finally, the hatred of the American automobile is finally gone. With the near death of the car in the USA, and the CUV/SUV reality we have today, that negative stigma gets put to rest.

Renault such a Socialist corrupt place France is. Not surprised as they see it as business as usual compared to Asian countries honor. Clearly he stepped on some small toes bringing reaction to his abusive ways. Judge releasing him is normal, also normal for prosecutors to keep digging to find new charges.

I will bet you a dollar a Passport Sport AWD in Black Forest Pearl (with standard black 20" rims) will be cheaper than the Blazer LT AWD/3.6 I priced out over to the Edmunds. The 20" black alloys are a $1995 option on the Blazer LT! I'm excited to see the Bronco and Maverick myself!

It's really too bad they didn't go the path Ford seems to be going w/ the new Bronco for the Blazer...

Crazy pricing. A base Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4 is $32.9k. V6 standard.

Maybe Bentley is right given current battery power density. In a decade or so, denser batteries will allow them (and all automakers) to build BEVs that are far superior to what is on the market now. Sometimes it is bets to wait for technology to catch up with your ambitions if you are not able to push it along yourself.

ICE is the past and the present. After 2030, I am not sure that ICE will be the future. ICE certainly has another good decade in it, but BEV will take over, even if it is a relatively a slow crawl to get to full BEV mainstream acceptance on the road.

An FCA inline 6 would make a great competitor to Fords 2.7 V6 and the new 4-cylinder Silverado.... all fairly close in displacement, but the FCA version, by virtue of being an I6, should be the smoothest and most powerful of them all.