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Our prayers MAY have been answered with respect to the CT6. Now if only GM would use the Omega platform for other vehicles as well. . . . .

I''d like to see a coupe w/ the El Miraj styling..a big 2dr hardtop. Was such a beautiful concept.

I could so see a CT6 Coupe Blackwing edition along with a Blackwing EV version.

I'd love to see a CT6 coupe, a Buick sedan and an Impala/Caprice off this platform, but in today's CUV-obsessed market I know all are quite unlikely...

It didnt make any sense to drop billions into a platform and all that metallurgical technology for it and a brand new state of the art V8 just to kill it off a couple of years later... But then again. This is GM we are talking about. It wouldnt have been the 1st time to kill off a brand new billion dollar project car. Hell, it wouldnt have even been the 2nd or 3rd time either after a short time being sold in the market place... So...anything coulda/woulda happened with the news of the plant closures and certain car models being killed off...

Worst post ever....ever....by you folks from Jersey....obviously Both Ford and GM need a nitro-methane fueled quad turbo V twin for the Aviator and XT5...and this thing needs eight Turbos on a three cylinder variant of that same design. Would win over the Harley guys and the Drag racing guys both...as well as suburban shoppers in the heartland. Because somewhere in the black forest with elves and Elvis an Benz engineer is designing a similar power-plant. And we know if people don't ape the Alpha dog in the room...the wreath and crest, the Blue oval and the Ram all three will be gone in three to five years. Just sayin...

This guy.. once again trying to belittle the Cadillac brand. Look U Kraut... The CT6 sells more than any of the German big sedans save the S-Class. It does so to some monthly by 2 and 3 to one. Anyway.. go back to the original announcement tread and see that I told U folks that the words CT6 Dead had not been uttered.. just the plant was being closed..

It is too god of a car to die, methinks.

^ It's sad how they all look exactly the same up front- the $100K models wear the same nose as the $30K. Imagine if Cadillac put a Sonic nose on the CT6-V.

I may need to take a drive on the Pacific Coast Highway sometime soon.

the Blackwing v8 has renewed the interest in this car. A caddy with a v8? Yup, that's what generates interest.

I sort of believed this is how it would play out.

No, of course not. I was saying in response to 'they need a new V8 because it barely has anymore power than a twin turbo EcoBoost', that FCA has like 5 Hemi tunes in the catalog : 375/395 HP, 475, 707, 808, 840. The Hemi is capable of delivering more HP than any other street engine out there; the engine doesn't 'end' at 375 HP. IOW; it's in no way 'outdated'.

This will be a very good car. I have no doubt in that. I just doubt it will be 50k good.

Just saw the best comment on FB regarding Supra : "Remember the last time Germany and Japan teamed up, and how that went?"

They already said that the base Supra will start at $50k Good luck to them selling at that price. It would be reasonable if it would start around $40k, but for $50k+ doesn't look like it will be worth it.

Only reason I can see is to sidestep the extremely dated BMW design 'language', but this lumpy also-ran is not the shoes with which to take that step. What an epic admission of failure to buy/rebadge someone else's hand-offs.

The torque curve on the 3.6 is awful compared to the 3800 and 3900. That is the real issue. Why GM insisted on building a V6 based on those four cylinder engines from Germany is still beyond me. HP is nice, but a torque curve as flat as Kansas is what a LOT OF US want.

I know you were making a joking analogy, but I'm a numbers guy, so I had to look it up. And this is only posted as good-naturedly as possible, I assure you: Mustang P51D, Packard-Merlin V-1650, 60-degree V-12, supercharged, 1649 cubic inches [27L], between 1300 and 1400 HP, 437 MPH. ?

Its mind boggling how powerful the engines were in the 1960s and early 1970s only to drop off and then sky rocket back. But with 4 and 6 cylinders. The V8s today? By God! They could power WW2 fighter aircraft.

Yet the S-Class is so Butt Ugly, in fact the whole family has a glaring problem, They have a Cat Butt front and center!

LOL... the V8 is named Blackwing, there won't be a "Blackwing EV". Maybe they'll have one called a "Paper Airplane EV", or some such.

They could probably build enough CT6’s in 5 months to give dealers a 2 year supply. i wonder if they found a way to make a crossover on Omega which makes the platform more viable.

Interesting..I just heard about that engine in a podcast, someone had installed one in a older Civic IIRC.

I have driven a bunch of them that are very smooth.

But, But, But According to the master blaster of all things German and the ultimate German God of all things Auto who invented the auto industry Mercedes-benz, one should throw away a perfectly good design to change it up and let marketing tell you that a straight six turbo'd to 400HP is better than a traditional NA V8 because the Germans said so!

I think this makes a ton of sense.

Sounds OK. I wonder if Ford will get VW to buy up Ford of Europe so that Ford will no longer have to deal with their wobbly economics and really powerful unions.

No, but those high hp versions are only in SRT vehicles. Also, this is a 6.4 putting out 410hp, fwiw. I also don't think the phrase, "The Hemi is capable of delivering more HP than any other street engine out there" is accurate.. It isn't like the 840hp engine is just the 375hp engine with a supercharger with zero modifications done to it. They build it as necessary, as would any other company. Just in the same way GM didn't just put a massive blower on the 6.2 to make 755hp. They built the engine knowing it will be 755hp with the necessary components. But yes, these are dated int he sense that they aren't the most powerful(the ones not in SRTs) and they aren't efficient. They're a mix of "okay".

It will bring high money as a twenty year old used car when few of them are left around and the rest of us have switched to electrics.

The MkIV Supra was also expensive. The turboed one cost just as much as our beloved Corvette. In 1997, when the C5 Vette came out, both the Vette and the Supra were in and around 40 000 US dollars. Performance wise, from a Motor Trend High Speed edition from May 1997, they tested and compared 7 cars. Dodge Viper GTS, Ferrari F355, Porsche 911 Turbo, Acura NSX-T, Mistisbishi 3000GT VR-4, Chevrolet Corvette, Toyota Supra The Vette was sometimes top of the pack and at times mid pack while the Supra was mostly below the pack. All this to say that with the Supra, then, it did not matter how fast it was as compared to its competition. And it was quite the tally of cars... The Supra was finally compared to a Vette. A Porsche... A freakin' Ferrari???!!! A Supra was able to go head-to head with a Ferrari! Sure it came no where near the performnce specs of that Ferrari F355, but boy oh boy did the Supra come a long way from its humble beginnings to be even mentioned in the same breath as a visceral Viper. Just as visceral Porsche 911 turbo (in 1997, the 911 turbo was a freakin' beast). It did fairly good against its Japanese brethren, beating out the Mitsu all the time and hangin' in there with Japan's top dog, the NSX. Remember, the NSX was a mid-engined exotic while the Supra became a wild muscle car that could handle...(this was 15 years before the Camaro and Mustang did the same thing...) It was more or less on par with the Vette. Sure, the Vette always beat it in the performance categories of these high speed tests Motor Trend conducted, but it did good for itself. You know, dont kid yourself, I think with "only" 300 some odd horsepower, I think the Supra will surprise some of you in its performnce specs... OK...it does not look like it will win any bikini contests. Or any wet T-shirt bonanzas...at least it aint a retro designed car with old Supras in mind just to sell nostalgia... And THAT is refreshing. For me at least. And we all know how much I LOVE the Challenger and Mustang I might add!!!

Agreed. When you start hitting Shelby Mustang and Corvette Territory...one buys the better car.

OK then! Try this young sexy lass on for size ?????

Noooooo; the Rivian MARKETING MATERIAL is big into the outdoors. The Rivian truck is big into the garage it was hand built in.

Sorry for the crudity, but I don't do this often

[gonna jump in here before ocnblu nabs this] ~ You only eat once a year???

The PowerWagon is a true off-road adventure vehicle. I've been in the passenger seat while the RAM rep was driving it full force taking leaps off hills with all 4 wheels off the ground. The power wagon has a remote detachable anti-roll bar, giant shocks, giant ground clearance, and a hugely strong steel frame that is used in the same trucks capable of towing 35 thousand pounds. No, the Rivian is not in the same class. It's barely in the F-150's same class. I look at it as a Honda Ridgeline EV.

Absolutely.

Different market niche, pointless to compare.

Hard to tell, but looking at the pics it looks like the cab and bed are carried over from the previous generation, not using the cab and bed from the '19 1500...good looking truck, the new front is a big improvement over the pig nostril grille the Heavy Duty has used recently.

It isn't the torque number itself, it's how high in the RPM range it is.

That's insane.

I installed a new set of DUB Wheels Push S109 Series on my white 2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor SuperCrew.

Few days late... I replaced the headlight housings on the CR-V. The headlight restoration kits weren't cutting it anymore. It took years off the visual age of the car.