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I think as a hatch it looks much better. And with that engine it should be a hoot,

Done

I don't care for the looks, but 300hp out of a 2.0t with almost 300 lb-ft of torque sounds fine to me.... I'm interested in trying it to see how it drives. These are 4.6 Northstar specs from 10 years ago.

Ya know....I got yelled at by another driver who ran a red light...I had a green....near accident. Sometimes not escalating a situation has benefits. Nothing mechanical is ever perfect. Although the 65-70 Mustang fastbacks and 58-62 Corvettes are close to visually perfect, so I have to potentially modify what I said... And I think you need to give the Mad Greek Oldsmobile fanatic some breathing room. Boeing did really do some morally questionable things here.

Pretty much the state of everything right now. This would be a fantastic country if we could elect actual adults to lead us. I am flying to Florida next week and will be flying on a Boeing 737. Yes, Boeing has some moral responsibility but they also have built some damned safe aircraft. No one has ever lost their lives on a 787, and I don't think any 777's were to blame for any of the fatalities on them. Most but not all of the 747 accidents that were fatal were human error rather than Boeing's engineering. I challenge anyone here to do anything with that kind of success record. Hell....Oldshurst has more failures with hot dogs in his restaurant than Boeing does with planes. And yes...no one has ever died from one of those hot dogs...but people are not exactly flying them across oceans either. And yet cost cutting did bring us two bad crashes. Boeing will pay out the nose for grounded flights and lost business. They are big kids on the block and they know this. That is part of what makes supervised Capitalism work.

"There's not any problem putting it in... except for safety, emissions, and fuel economy.... " Though I do firmly believe there should be a Hemi option for the Gladiator. The Pentastar isn't quite enough to be the max output engine.

'56-57 Corvette. Note right-hand drive. Not a flipped image: 'ICE' is correct in background, and fuel filler is on correct left side. Not sure if this was a factory built export or what, but interesting all the same.

Promaster Hellcat would help Amazon deliver faster..

I gave you MY opinion... WITH HOW I GOT THERE You did not...meaning...your opinion just becomes trolling... https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Internet Troll Internet Troll A person whose sole purpose in life is to seek out people to argue with on the internet over extremely trivial issues. Such arguments can happen on blogs, Facebook, Myspace and a host of others. The best thing you can do to fight an internet troll is to not answer..or report them. "God, Jeromy won't stop posting about Larry's bad spelling in that conversation." "Yeah, I know, what a Internet Troll." #internet#troll#facebook#web#douchbag by Person#98765 June 21, 2009 593199 Get a Internet Troll mug for your girlfriend Rihanna. 2 Internet Troll An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disruptnormal on-topic discussion. To be a good Internet Troll you must copy and paste this definition all over the internet. #internet#troll#flam

Then I encourage you to use the Ignore function.... both of you. PM me if you need assistance.

Ooops! I downvoted you by accident at first. You're right that the hatch looks better.

What is strange about it? It's the same thing in concept as buying/selling emissions credits in California.

Jeeps are mostly diesels in Europe also...that is probably the big issue. Anyway, this seems like a very strange approach to meeting emissions standards.

Found a Mini Cooper I can possibly fit in!

https://jalopnik.com/peugeot-brought-a-car-nobodys-seen-in-america-to-an-atl-1833888131

Hmm...gas tank in the cab, '72 I think. '72 was the first year for that generation, and in '73 (or '74) I think they moved the gas tank to under the bed. Not sure if the Power Wagon trim was available then, the decals may have been added later.

I want a PSA-Renault/Nissan-FCA- Tata/JLA super merger.

Who saw a start-up in a repurposed GM plant with a rebadged Lotus eventually upseating the c-class in sales??

That is me, I never have had to pay in more than a 100 or so and never got a refund more than 100 or so. I like to keep myself to as near a zero as possible. Live within your means, that is my moto. Way I raised my kids too. Totally agree that people did focus on it as a way to buy big ticket items and now it will change for many.

@ccap41 You think your downvotes bother me? Because in the past it did? Like I said...you are a troll to nth degree. Keep those downvotes coming bud! But do not counter in any way or show any proof like I did on why you believe what you believe in... YOU IGNORANT BLIND PHOQUING TROLL!!!

Being an engineer, I see too often products that could be built to last for ever but cheapened up by companies that take the attitude of we want people to have to buy new to keep us going. I know we have seen law suites in the past and while I have no proof, I would not be surprised if GM had a very sturdy product of spec for the ignition switch but someone said if we change these parts, it still meets the spec of new and now, but will save us XXX,XXX,XXX amount of money and after all things need to wear out so they are forced to by new. We have seen how the auto industry has cut corners to deliver huge bonuses to the executive mgmt. of past from the OEMs. I believe this still goes on today for Planes, Trains and Automobiles plus much more. End result is that ethics is all good and great in a theoretical class, but putting it into the real business world where it costs real money and could cost jobs. Businesses still will shave here and there, we see it all the time from Bridges, to buildings, etc. Trumps threat on Mexico Auto's with a 25% Tariff will have the auto companies looking at ways to shave costs more to off set the tariff if it happens.

Hey now...

The CEO took responsibility for it... that is different than knowingly doing something wrong.

I know exactly what you're talking about @dfelt, I'm currently in a business ethics class where we've gone into detail about the Ford Pinto. I still cannot and will not believe until it is fact that they knowingly engineered it to have such a fatal error. Ain't nobody got time to respond to paragraphs written like that.

Play on words... I got no time to argue on a play on words... But yeah...their solution failed...and yeah...they have blood on their hands... And if the business culture they are in allows for that to happen...then yeah... What are you trying to argue here? Aircraft safety regulations are not a joke!!! This is not an industry where a company is allowed to cheap out on a piece to save a few cents and then an accident happens and then its so what... This is an industry where EVERYTHING regarding safety is calculated and NOT ONE MISTAKE SHOULD BE MADE...BEFORE CERTIFICATION... If a crash happens, the reason for an investigation PRIMARILY is NOT to lay blame, but to learn what happened and to fix it and prevent it from happening again... In fact, all aircraft safety regulations are a DIRECT RESULT from previous aircraft accidents. Fatal or non fatal. Which is sombre in itself because the industry gets safer AFTER an accident occurs. In THIS case, the investigation is to FIND blame...

This is back to the bean counters of a software glitch that happens what is believed to be so rarely that they factor the lawsuits and settlements versus the cost of extended R&D to make sure it was fixed. We have seen this on many auto's, AKA Ford Pinto, GM Ignition switch, Toyota Prius floor mates accelerator stuck issue, etc. I would not be surprised that this was found in the software as a bug, yet considered so minor that they flagged it as a patch or update down the road once they got selling and then never really came back to it. Many bugs are left this way till something major happens. In this case two planes crash and all lives lost and now Boeing is looking at issuing a software update. ?

Well, the CEO took responsibility for it, after months of blaming the airlines, the pilots of those airlines... https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/video-boeing-takes-responsibility-for-eliminating-457254/ Maybe what I said about "knowingly" might not be accurate either, but I think certain engineers and software programmers knew that the system may not be 100%. https://simpleflying.com/737-max-design-changes/ But... earlier in the investigstions after most of the European Boeing 737 MAX 8 carriers GROUNDED the airplane, Boeing and the FAA and Canada's transport minister did NOT want to admit fault...2 days later after the WORLD stated concerns, Canada, FAA and Boeing grounded the 737... It shoukd have done so from the get go!!! https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airplane-usa/u-s-to-mandate-design-changes-on-boeing-737-max-8-after-crashes-idUSKBN1QS2CL U.S. Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao told reporters regulators would not hesitate to act if they find a safety issue. “If the FAA identifies an issue that affects safety, the department will take immediate and appropriate action,” Chao told reporters. “I want people to be assured that we take these incidents, these accidents very seriously.” Boeing’s top executive told employees on Monday he was confident in the safety of the U.S. manufacturer’s top-selling 737 MAX aircraft. The company added that it was “still early” in the Ethiopian Airlines investigation. Reuters and other media outlets have reported that Boeing has for months planned design changes after the Lion Air crash in Indonesia but the FAA notice was the first public confirmation. Canada’s transport minister also said he will not hesitate to act once the cause of the crash is known. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/19/transportation-secretary-asks-departments-inspector-general-to-audit-faas-certification-of-boeing-737-max.html The Boeing 737 Max 8 features larger engines than previous models and to address potential in-flight stalls, Boeing added an automatic anti-stall system that points the nose of the plane downward, the way pilots recover from such a position. However, if the sensors that determine if the plane is in a stall receive erroneous data and point the nose down, the consequences could be catastrophic. Investigators probing the doomed Lion Air crash in Indonesia have indicated that the pilots appeared to be battling the system and the similarities between that crash and the Ethiopian Airlines crash have increased scrutiny from lawmakers and regulators on Boeing and the FAA on the plane’s launch. Both aircraft that crashed had similar problems...and yet Boeing and the FAA INITIALLY REFUSED to accept those facts...after the WORLD gave pressure, and after all kinds of shyt excuses, only then did Boeing and the FAA ground the plane. There were American airline carriers and Canadian that were flying the Boeing 737 Max 8 AFTER the crashes!!! DO YOU BELIEVE THAT! Air Canada grounded its fleet because of PUBLIC pressure and THEN the Canadian Transport Minister also told canadian airliners to ground the 737 and then after the FAA grounded the plane...only to ADMIT that there is something wrong...and yet, many pilots in the beginnning flying this aircraft have complained that the safety measures do not make sense...that would be BEFORE the two planes crashed... So yeah...something is fishy...lots of deflection and blame gameing going on.. Would something happen to Boeing and their CEOs and software engineers if investigations found to be guilty, if those investigations are being made to find the truth anyway? Depends how corrupt the supervision is?

Ill tell you why some shytty South American, Central American countries and Mexico piss me off with their Drug cartels! Why on earth are some Chevy Silverados, Blazers built in Mexico? Lower wages? Because North American workers get paid too much? All shytty excuses that DOES US AMERICANS AND CANADIANS HARM!!! Maybe if Mexico fixed their corruption, took care of their illegal drug infested economy, took care of their people, their people not afraid of the crooks and the law alike, (people get abducted for ransom apparently in Mexico on a regular basis...how phoqued up is that?) maybe their economy would align more like Canada and the US and maybe the factory workers would get paid more or less what an American or Canadian worker would get paid, then the incentive for big business to seek slave labour would be less for Mexico to get all those factories... (Or are you guys soooooo in favour of big business making sooooooo much money and profit that their CEOs have sooooo much money that they could buy off your politicians and that paying a salaried worker a good pay is not part of your philosophy?) And THAT is a DIRECT result of their DRUG CARTELS leading the country. The US and Canada battled organized crime. Its still present, but the claw that the different mafias had during the peak decades of the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s is diminished immensely. We took care of our business in that sense. We still have a ways to go...but it seems Mexico, China, do little with the illegal drug trade on their end...

Sure it is...no really!!! But, there are two things that are happening right now, since the 1980s Id say 1. There is no supervision what so ever 2. And if there is supervision, the supervision gets to do a lot of turning blind eyes while receiving special envelopes to allow scrupulous business practices to happen. And some of the supervisors are allowed get to play the game as well... And this is common practice not only in individual countries with a limited amount of businesses. But across MULTIPLE countries all involved with each other, sleeping together and not only with legit businesses, and not a finite amount of legit businesses but with illegal products as well... Amazon. Undercut pricing for years and losing billions for years but allowed to continue with predatory business practices (not only in North America, but the world, but the US has allowed Amazon to do this...and now has become a leader...NOT PAYING TAXES in ANY country. In some cases, using FEDERAL shipping agencies, the US postal service, to ship their goods. Trump said something like that to shut down Amazon, but then again, he as a business man is no less scrupulous... UBER. In Quebec, A taxi driver has to buy a 150 000 dollar taxi license. This licence does many things. Protects the consumer and company alike with different regulations and the like. Anyway...UBER for so long always stated that they were NOT a taxi service, to circumvent taxi laws not only in Quebec, but around the world. UBER undercuts taxi pricing to squeeze out the legit taxi business model, all the while NOT paying taxi licenses, taxes...continues to bleed billions, in hoping they too, become like Amazon... Civil unrest though does happen, but yet again, governments allow this predatory tactic to happen... https://globalnews.ca/news/5132699/protest-taxi-drivers-block-traffic-downtown-montreal/ In Quebec, the Government allowed UBER to continue on their non taxi service. Then they threatened to ban Uber because UBer refused to pay the 150 000 liciense fee. Now, the government wants to DEREGULATE the iindustry, yet dont want to reimburse those taxi drivers/owners the 150 000 dollar business fee/license... BOEING: Knowingly sold a defective 737 Max 8. Knowingly had a software program to bypass a certain problem. Did not train airline companies properly on this software program. Software program sensors in some cases were the problem and not the program itslef, yet REFUSED to ground the aircraft. Not once, but twice. The FAA did not properly certify the aircraft BEFORE it was sold. The FAA continued to allow Boeing to police itself after the 1st crash. Boeing begged American airline companies, and Canadian, to NOT ground the plane after the 2nd crash. It took a week or two, reluctantly for Boeing AND the FAA to ground the 737 Max 8, after the 2nd crash. Before they did that, they blamed pilot error. There is a rumor that Boeing sold separately necessary safety features. Those necessary safety features were OPTIONS... They tried to blame 3rd world airline companies for not ponying up the extra cash for the necessary safety features when those safety features are supposed to be MANDATORY, NOT OPTIONAL!!! Banks and Wallstreet Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, LLoyds of London anbd all those greedy banks that sold questionable iffy mortgages to people then sold those "assets" as investments and those failed causing a world meltdown..., ILLEGAL DRUG TRADE There is soooo much to talk about this...but politicians really dont give a phoque. Yes it starts at home, good family units, taking care of depression, NOT having negative stigmas concerning the mentally ill and the like... But it really is a huuuuge problem when illegal drugs come into another country. All kinds of problems with that....but there is no supervision anywhere by anyone for that... Instead...WE CRIMINALIZE AND JUDGE THE USER!!! WE BLAME THE POVERTY SITUATION, THE LACK OF EDUCATION OF THE USER, THE MENTAL ILLNESS THE USER HAS, THE BROKEN FAMILY HE IS IN BUT WE NEVER EVER HATE ON THE BIG TIME DRUG CARTELS PROOF: JUST LOOK AT THE RESPONSES HERE AND THE UPVOTES FOR SAYING STUFF LIKE IT STARTS AT HOME OR WHY DO USERS USE DRUGS IN THE FIRST PLACE. NOTHING REGARDING THE SHYTE THAT OTHER COUNTRIES ALLOW THAT ENABLE DRUG CARTELS TO EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! THE SUPERVISION IS LACKING, NON? BECAUSE THE SUPERVISION IS IN THE HANDS OF THE DRUG CARTELS...THE SUPERVISION IS CORRUPT AND INSTEAD OF FIGHTING DRUG ADDICTION, WE TURN A BLIND EYE TO IT AND SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG BLAMING THE ADDICTED...AND DO NOTHING TO COMBAT THE CORRUPTION EITHER!!!

I think some are forgetting what vehicles GM actually produces in Mexico. https://www.motortrend.com/news/30-cars-affected-trump-close-border-mexico/

Right, just need to get the kids back into preschool.

What kind of F-d up metric is that? Let's see : 'If Rolls Royce, Ferrari & Jaguar were viable companies, they wouldn't have to have bought their transmissions off of General Motors.' How's that work for you?