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^ Nobody wants to be seen in an alfa romeo. - - - - -

Got to blanket the all segments, they have a car for everyone. If you want a coupe, convertible, wagon, SUV, they have it. If you go to Cadillac and want a coupe, wagon or convertible, sorry; go to Lincoln in about 2 years and want anything other than an SUV and you'll be out of luck. A-class isn't even a money grab, they don't make much profit on those, the real money is made on S-classes and G-wagens. Really Mercedes is doing a public service by bringing Mercedes-Benz quality, technology and safety to more people. I don't see anyone knocking Chevy for not just selling Corvettes and Silverados and scrapping any car under $30k. They still have the Spark and Sonic and the Traxx, as they should because they aren't just targeting a small sliver of buyers. Plus the C-class is not so entry level, that has become a pretty nice car and you can get a 500 hp V8 in it, I think there is room for a vehicle below it. And next gen S-class will raise the bar, AMG GT73 was confirmed today, so S73 will follow, they won't use that powertrain in just one car. They are pushing plenty upmarket too.

Exactly. If the typical luxury crossover buyer wanted RWD as non-negotiable, then the original SRX would never have been switched from RWD AND BMW SAVs would be flying off of dealer lots. Cadillac switched the SRX to FWD because the best selling luxury crossover was the Lexus RX (always FWD). The modern Cadillac crossovers followed suit and stayed FWD with AWD as an available option. The luxury market is simple: RWD sedans and FWD crossovers are the norm, not the exception. AWD is generally available for a slight premium. The CT4, especially if priced right below the C-Class and the 3-series and the A4, should do just fine, perhaps a little better than the ATS. Does it really matter if 50 or 60% of Cadillac sales are FWD? NO. It matters if Cadillac serves its market and keep gaining market share on the Germans and Lexus.

One @balthazar especially will like.

The ATS was replaced directly with the CT4 and the CTS was replaced directly with the CT5. The XTS is dead soon, so their entire sedan lineup will be RWD. No one cares about RWD in a crossover, if they did, the Stelvio would be flying off the lots, not the RX and XT5. As much as I am "meh" about the XT6, they'll probably sell a good amount of them because again... no one cares about RWD in a crossover and Lincoln is currently botching the Aviator launch.

A-class sedan : 179”, ATS: 182. c-class sedan is 187”. Incorrect- you have not included AWD in your numbers.

I would take that Euro NCAP testing with a Grain of salt. This from the same agencies that for years did not test properly to see if cheating software was being used in Diesel auto's, Acid rain that is destroying forests all across Europe and only got caught as the US market was questioning the results they got and decided to have 3rd party Universities look in to suspect results and BOOM, all blows up to billions of dollars of fines for them. What else is MB hiding in these Toyota / Chevrolet equal FWD appliances that MB sells? ??

Thanks for that, tho they are missing more than just those 2 zones. However, by '89, GM might have condensed the zones; NY was always zone 03 & 05, but the '89 list shows many NY codes in zone 06. Need to verify. UPDATE : still entering data from the TTA list, currently at about 2150 coded dealers, 5150 total. The other active list 'out there' is at 3200 dealers, but I do not know it's breakdown on coded vs. uncoded- I believe via talking to the compiler that they are all coded. If so, I should eclipse that and be around 4600 coded dealers and 7500 dealers total. This is by far the most comprehensive list of Pontiac dealers in existence, to my knowledge. There should be a way I can make a dollar off all this work...

That poor goal post. Who was saying Mercedes quality is all over the A Class? That Cadillac is built here thus a more reasonable price can be expected that is unrelated to quality (or not as related to quality). The A Class is made in Germany and the cost is naturally higher because of it being an import (tariffs and such). This would also apply in reverse for Cadillac if they were exporting the CT4 to Germany. It would be priced considerably higher. Now if you don’t think there is some major cost cutting in that A Class, you are just next level fanboy delusional. You want to bring up the quality of the Cadillac while ignoring the big reliability elephant in the room that is Mercedes, the knock yourself out. Just don’t expect everyone else to buy it. We will just sidestep your bring up a company like Toyota who’s $18K car will run circles around that Benz in terms of long term reliability. Maybe you should stop pulling $h! out of thin air when trying to defend Benz.

ATS is the same size as the a-class, 2019 coupe starts at $38,995.

They are putting the money in their pockets.. that's it.. And who is suddenly saying that the Cadillacs don;t have build quality? Regardless.. GM, Toyota, VW can build cars for less and sell them for less because of total scale. Many of their cars share parts.. That Q7 and A5.. shares parts with the Tour.. or CC... that ES and LS.. shares some parts with a Camry or Avalon.. CT6 and XT5.. certainly share parts.. its the most documented thing in automotive history

Exactly. The sheeple will follow. With the long rear overhang, when the bed is loaded, it must drive like the old Ford Econoline 15 passenger extended vans that had the major overhang off the back axle and had a tendency to roll when fully loaded with people. Rushed to market and poorly engineered.

The A Class isn’t a money grab? Then why make and sell a car that doesn’t make real money? And Chevy isn’t luxury much less marketing themselves as “premium” and that Vette has been a staple of Chevy since the 50s when the price difference from top to bottom was negligible. You have been told more than once why the Vette being on a Chevy lot with cars like the Sonic and Spark is not a big deal at all and never has been. Meanwhile it’s Mercedes that has preached top of the line “best or nothing” marketing while releasing more and more cars with lower and lower stickers. Now do you honestly want us to believe that Daimler’s legendary quality was extended to a $32K FWD car? Seriously? Oh and the BMW interior is garbage.

FCA quality at work. That turbo 4 is also very closely related to the Alfa Romeo turbo 4, but they probably cut even more corners on Jeep since it isn’t a performance brand. The reliability of this thing must be spooky and people will buy it anyway.

Why would anyone settle for the 2.0T in a CT6 when you can get a 3.0TT or a 3.6 v6 instead? Other than that, get any CT6 you want, if you can afford it.

Is it messed up that I only read the headline and thought it was the missing lube for folks who paid $50K for a Jeep with a pick up bed that isn’t even long enough to carry your average bicycle?

Half way to 108!!

Thanks, I am 54 today...times goes by fast.

When GM, Toyota or VW builds a car the size of the A-class it costs $18,000 and yet the A-class costs $32,500. They are putting money somewhere. This CT4 will also cost less than an A-class and is a size class bigger, so how is the build quality on it when even expensive Cadillacs don’t have good build quality?

64.6% of Cadillac sales first half of 2019 were FWD. And that number will rise since XT6 wasn't on sale then and ATS was, and ATS is now dead. Cadillac is a 70% front drive brand and most of that rear drive is a Chevy Tahoe with luxury appointments. Standard of the World I am sure.