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A puzzler for sure; losing sales & money, deemed not worth keeping.... "WHO WANTS TO BUY A SWEET ITALIAN AUTO BRAND? EH?" Just shut them down, nary a tear will be shed.

That was something I liked about living in Arizona. No time change.

These wheels make the wagon look more ‘estate’ like whereby the stock wheels try to look ‘crossover’. Both end up looking good and these look better than I thought they would on the tourx.

LOL, they also programmed it to cheat on tests.

I know I dont really care. I dont think there has ever been a Maserati that I liked. I like the sound that their 4.7 liter V8 makes, but I also heard that that engine is not that reliable.... kinda worthless. Alfa Romeo? They made some nice lookin' cars over the years, sure. But I dont consider myself a fan. Like with Maserati, I like the noises that their TTV6 makes in the Giulia, but I heard that that engine is not reliable either... so what's the point?

I am going to take my whole family to see it. Can't wait ?

Chevrolet loyal owners? The Impala once sold 1 million copies per year... The Impala has died 3 deaths... From Citation II to Celebrity to Lumina to Impala. From Chevette to Cavalier to Cobalt to Cruze...and Cruze is dead? I think?...all because the Japanese (and now....Koreans) keep all the loyal Chevrolet owners to themselves... The Chevrolet fullsized pick-up truck is now in 3rd place in sales behind the big bad Dodge! A lifetime, the Dodge was in 3rd place.

Actually, humans know also. This time changing thing phoques with our biological clock. I cant stand this daylight savings time change twice a year. We are currently on standard time right now, right? Let's keep it there!!!

Such a good looking vehicle.

To put this back on track about Hyundai's 10yr/100k new buyer warranty and the fact that they lean on it to sell and do not transfer it to every other owner speaks volumes. Hyundai does not have a quality or reliable image or loyal owners like Chevy or Ford here in the U.S.

Again, the rental agency was out of compacts and I got upgraded. I jumped up 2 categories, into a Toyota Camry SE with less than 10,000 miles. I never recall liking Camrys, thinking back to when I was given keys to a late 1990s model and the vague and boring motoring experience that came with that. The Camry has come a long way. I didn't fall in love with this car, but I'd have to say I liked most things about it. First, from once being a boring looking vehicle, most vantage points on this vehicle are flattering and much better than they've been in past model years. The only exception is the grille. Toyota can't seem to separate itself from the abrasive, overwrought shovel nose front grilles it shares with its relative, the Lexus. However, the subtly curved lines all around are a welcome relief. They are seen in the side profile, mostly along the belt line, and even on the trunk lid, rear fascia, and rear tail lamps. The interior gets a thumbs up in terms of the seating and the amount of space. For a person of average proportions, the front seats with a decent amount of bolstering and nice scooped inset areas are comfortable. On the Camry SE, there's a horizontally ribbed material in the inset that is unusual and that I can't quite make out. Looking at LEs on lots while I had this rental, the shape of the seats is the same, except that they are upholstered all the way around in a mouse fur type cloth. The leather wrapped steering wheel feels good and does not have the squared off bottom. The instrument panel and how you interface with it is mostly a fail. In the cluster in front of you, the speedometer and tach are "normal." However, the temperature and fuel gauges are not. The tank holds a respectable 16 gallons, yet the way the fuel gauge moves downward as one starts using up the tank is in no way proportionate to what is really going on. Part of it can be that the temperature and fuel gauges are angled in a strange way I didn't care for. The controls arranged horizontally to the left side of the dashboard, though, which include the trunk release and fuel door release, are perfectly sized and placed. The center stack is not likable and not even that intuitive. The audio and info screen is fussy. Then, I think about the new Malibu, for example, where interfacing with the screen is much easier. The climate control panel is a little better, but could be even simpler. The worst thing about what's in front of you is that strongly angled part in the panel that merges with the right side of the console. You need to reach into that Bermuda Triangle to charge your phone and use the cubby with the cover that slides back and forth nicely. As for the console's surface, it's higher than I'd like it to be, but not as high as some many cars where you feel like an astronaut ... and which are not even sports cars. On the road, the Camry becomes more likable. The engine has a strong enough pull and merges into the highway or passes well. I looked under the hood, which is fairly jumbled looking compared to simpler layouts in other brands, and found a 2.5 liter 4 banger. It pumps out 203 horses. It also delivers close to 40 mpg. I like this part: it's over 2 liters, it puts out over 200 horses, they did it without a turbocharger, and the engine can fetch 40 mpg. On one jaunt, I got 38.63 mpg, with a minor amount of getting on and off the highway. Therefore, I don't like how one popular domestic sedan (cough) at the same price point went to a diminutive 1.5 liter 4 AND a turbocharger to get the power and similar gas mileage. Once one is edging $30,000, I don't think there's anything wrong with asking for at least 2 liters worth of powerplant. The transmission is an 8 speed geared automatic. I thought it might be a CVT. Thankfully, it was not. Earlier shifts pulling away from a light are smooth and feel just right. When in a mid-range pass or if climbing a grade, the automatic transmission seems to, at times, hunt for a gear. And, with that, it sends the normally smooth engine into a state of graininess that comes into the cabin. At all other times, the cabin is hushed and isolated well from both wind noise and tire thum. I'm almost certain, though, that the powertrain is as dependable as that of any Camrys that came before it. I had this review thought out before I read any other reviews or summaries about the car. I then happened onto US News or Edmunds, which gave their pluses and minuses on the Camry. I'm in line with much of what they report. The one thing they mentioned is how touchy some of the advanced driving sensors and compensating features are. This rental car had the lane keeping warning ... and what appeared to be some correction. I felt a slight tug at times. I wasn't digging on this when it was raining outside and big rigs were passing me on the interstate or if I was in a road work zone. I would have had much more use for the blind spot alert on the exterior mirrors or rear cross traffic alert. This car did not have them. However, they are available via an option package. The new Camry's winning hand is its steering and road stance. The on-center feel is damn near perfect. The amount of assist also seems just right, whether it's navigating a parking lot or a two lane mountain road. It's this aspect of the car that makes it very easy to live with. And it's an aspect that is far improved from earlier Camrys I've driven. I returned this car with mostly a positive impression of it. Come on, Toyota. Lose the exaggerated front end fascia theatrics. Design a more sensible dashboard and ease up on the center stack, both in terms of its fussiness and by giving you more working room under the climate control area. With some fine tuning of the packaging here and there, the reliable and competent Camry could be even better. (photos forthcoming)

Chryco was a goner a decade plus ago. Sure! The FCA just bought them time. And now this merger maybe buys them more time. FoMoCo should have NOT mortgaged their house the way they did. But they desperately needed money back then. Bail-out money would have made them re-structure their debt like GM did. Now they have a big problem. And botching important product launches really phoques them up, I agree. But GM is putting all their money on EVs. Many reasons NOT to do this: 1. EVs have shown NOT to be adopted by ANYBODY worldwide.... (Yes, I know...governments are forcing out the internal combustion engine...EVs are kinda the future) 2. GM putting all their eggs in the EV basket DOES make sense SINCE governments around the world are forcing peeps outta their gasoline cars....but...TESLA holds those cards. GM not only has some image problems concerning certain segments in the ICE world, but TESLA is a GIANT in the EV world. And MOST EV conscience peeps out there not only LOVE TESLA over any other EV wannabe, but it seems EV lovers HATE on GM the MOST because of the EV1 in the 1990s... Like I said, CHEVROLET is in a pickle...the Silverado is THE bread and butter....and it aint doing too well. Thank the Lord for the SUV versions of those trucks...(Tahoe, Yukon and Escalade and GMC in general) Ms Barra better make the right choices for Chevrolet in these coming months...

KAG 2020! YEAH!

Throw away cars? Id say these are/were bread and butter cars...GM went through all their brand's versions of J Cars and the FWD A Platform and N Platform that spawned Grand Ams and Calais and Achievas and Aleros and Corsicas and Tempests and Skylarks and Somersets and still couldnt dent Corolla and Civic loyalty. W-Body? Gone! Epsilon successor. Gone! Pontiac and Oldsmobile? Gone! Malibu is gonna die too...rumors... The CamCords and the Sonata/Optima clean the Malibu's clock. The Fusion is going away and even if people are aware that the Fusion is going away, they are NOT buying Malibus... Camaro? No word yet on a replacement. Project for a successor model has been at best case scenario pushed back and/or postponed...worst case scenario is another death for Camaro as plans have not been made...yet. Just that no new Camaro is planned for anytime soon... Silverado sales are falling. Ram trucks have taken over their spot. I suspect its the ugliness of that truck's face. But Im afraid if they make the Silverado a looker again, I think the people will not be back. I think those sales lost to Ram, those people will stay with Ram. Sorry man. I fear for CHEVROLET at the moment. Corvette will do fine. For now. But when the novelty of mid-engine wears off, will the peeps be back for another 60 years as they were for the front engine, rear wheel drive version?

Goooood. I've been good.

Just how delusional are you? You act like I’m the one that was “triggered” but it was you that deflected the discussion into personal BS like I why didn’t post about my ride. You have made one asinine assumption after another. What ironic in your post here is that everything you are trying to project onto me describes how you’ve acted since you started posting again a few months ago. If you don’t see the shear irony in what you just said, then there is no hope for you. Your fragile little ego got popped and you have to take it out on others with personal jabs and insults about others rides. I have no said any of that so again, the only triggered ego here is you and you have proven that ten fold. Exactly. Those who actually know the long and sometimes sordid history of the domestics understand how absolutely laugh out loud dumb it is to talk about any of them being loyal to their customers. They, like every other car company out there, are loyal to their shareholders only. These things are easier to see when one is able to step outside that fanboy bubble that some choose to live in.

I think just fine! You still didnt answer me how have YOU been... Ive missed you...NOT!!! ?

GREAT! YOU?

Yep...and the same with their mealtime...let me know an hour earlier...

PHOTOS 1. Side view - sleek enough; bigger alloys on skinnier tires on the SE 2. An angry appliance with a lot of cheap plastic up front 3. Some good lines on this vehicle; I also prefer the gas cap on the driver's side 4. Spacious cabin up front; the console is high, but I've seen higher 5. Spacious rear seat 6. Note the angled temperature gauge and fuel gauge; the fuel gauge moves more "slowly" than it should 7. Left side controls: mostly about audio 8. Right side controls: cruise control, some radio, and 2 driving assistance controls that can be regulated or shut off; that's right, I guess you can shut off the lane departure warning 9. This group of controls, down and to the left, are placed well and make sense 10. The audio area was busier than I would have liked. Those silver buttons don't feel good to the touch, IMO. I find this set up overstyled. 11. The strong diagonal that I don't like and the climate controls right above it 12. Kudos here; the shifter is hermetically sealed, it seems, from having liquids get in there, unlike some cars I've owned 13. The driver's seat is very comfortable; this is the SE's seat style, while the LE's is just one color of cloth 14. Ditto for the rear seat 15. If driving solo, move up the passenger seat a few notches so it aligns with the B-pillar to give you better visibility 16. The real sail panel (C-pillar) may look thick but, because of the parallel lines, it's not at all bad for looking over your shoulder to change lanes or scan what's around you. END OF PHOTOS

I'll see your one Toyota example and raise you GM ignitions. "30 million cars worldwide recalled; paid compensation for 124 deaths; forfeited $900 million to the United States."-Wiki and every other source regarding those recalls. Also, as it has been discussed a million times here, recalls do not equal reliability. Year after year, despite those recalls, Toyota and Lexus have ranked at or near the top for a few decades now. The fact that most of their lineup is stale is irrelevant. Do the math. Which has ZERO to do with the discussion at hand. You also haven't been here for a while because I have posted work i've done on my current car (my little runabout '96 RAV4) and posted on my previous car as well (my '06 Dodge Magnum). Stop assuming $h! you can't back up and stick to the subject next time. Nice cyber stalking though. Save yourself the trouble next time and just take a drive around the Peoria area. Stalk the old fashioned way next time. Here's the most recent post about the RAV4 stalker.

Just for the record and contrary to the portrayal in the movie; the people looking to protect their interests and put pressure on Tucker were politicians, not other automakers.

GM stands behind their vehicles with a fully transferable warranty to every owner 5yr./60k powertrain included unlike Hyundai, even Hyundai admits the 10/100 is really what makes the metal move not their poor reliability rating. Largest Recall in modern U.S. history "Unintended Acceleration" with 7.5M 2009 -2011 vehicles sold in the U.S. was with TOYOTA...you do the math...

It's easy to do when you don't follow laws.

Makes me wonder if we are in the era of a new model for every inch in length. ?

The Legacy OEM Auto companies have done equal if not worse. Just look at what they did and what we do not know about that they did in destroying Tucker. I am sure in the pursuit of profits that Detroit auto companies have done it all to try and protect themselves from competition and have clearly cut corners in manufacturing auto's. Nothing new here, just new technology.

Whoa. I just realized. I picked those up in LaCrosse WI and they were originally off a Buick LaCrosse ?? And then what. Just glad I didn’t lacrosse myself http://languagehat.com/no-lacrosse-for-canada/

I feel like the turbo was a good move here, because before the only option was a 184 hp, 180ish lb-ft engine, which isn't a lot for an SUV when with people in it is probably 4,000 lbs. A lot of this segment is 1 engine choice, and maybe 2, but I don't get when when this is probably the largest segment in the industry now. You'd think car makers would have more choices for powertrain, interior colors, option packs, etc. Almost every vehicle in this segment should have a base 4, a turbo 4 and a hybrid option. There wasn't a question in there, but I guess I'd have to ask if the turbo is worth the extra money over the base motor? I tend to think the optional engine is always worth the money, unless it is a car where the base engine is like 500 hp, then different story.

18”. Someone upgraded their lacrosse to the GM factory 20’s and so these 18’s became available.

Secured wheels for my snows from another donor Buick

I hate Halloween. Nobody comes around anymore. That part is good. However, you can't go to a customer service counter, library, or reception desk without having candy from a plastic orange pumpkin given to you. I think I've eaten about 15 or 20 candy bar minis by now. It's hardly health food.

I do like the look of these Alfa Giulia's front end, the triangle grille makes it look like it should have a rotary in it. Obviously we all know it doesn't, but a unique look none-the-less. Too bad they're so unreliable. What about Ferrari? I think they're mostly pretty good. Lambo's are kind of fireballs, but the Prancing Horse is pretty sweet.

They spend a billion on that platform, they're not going to just throw it away when Georgio, and the LX, and the Maseratis are the only RWD car platforms in all of PSA and FCA combined. I think they'll spread Georgio around as much as they can to recup their costs on it.

sucks to be the 13 people who bought the 2019 models

yes, quality, the Pontiac Vibe won't require buying a 10 year extended warranty on the vehicle like an expensive off lease German car would

? La Crosse WI; birthplace of Edward Gein. 612 Gould St, 11:30 PM. ?

Worse than anything Volkswagen did. All Volkswagen did... was build an engine that is efficient and powerful, and garnered the adoration of customers worldwide.

Warranties like what Hyundai and Kia offer have zero bearing on whether the car is actually reliable. Example, GM offers a 5 year/60K powertrain warranty while Toyota offers a 6 year/60K warranty. Now, based on your logic, does that mean that the extra year on the Toyota makes it more unreliable than GM? The simple answer to that is “no”.

@surreal1272 Also, I proudly post what I drive, like most on here. Funny that you don't...

I stayed on the subject of Hyundai you changed it to GM and Toyota. "Custom" toyota RAV4 throw away? Seriously? Quite the classic, classic waste of time and money. Quite the dedicated love for toyota you have there. LMAO!! WTF? "cyber stalking you?" Dream on. Everyone on here looks at other peoples' cars, it's part of what the site is about you freakin' weirdo.

Cry me a river. That's why you were triggered right? Stating it several times? Sure back track on being an ass because you can't erase after you've calmed down from your apparent tantrum haha. Funny I'm the one with two college degrees including an MS yet you think you know about my knowledge? That's some funny sh!t right there! It's selective reading because I detect BS and don't waste my time with it. I was comparing warranties with vehicles on opposite sides of the spectrum and you went further off with other manf., hypocritical much? I've seen where you and your buddy go off on others on here that don't agree with you, so it's you with an ego problem guy.