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• As listed above, the 250 & 350 have the same pan, so yes. • THM400 is a monster, can be built to handle anything.

You didn’t just bring up vehicle fires in an EV conversation, did you? ?

I dont travel far. I gas up EXACTLY like you. Every 2 weeks. Give or take a day or two. I have gotten lazy with that schedule so I fill-up to the brim almost spilling it and I drive it to the absolute end....almost empty. Yes...I know not good for the car when you do that. Oh well... Im sure the Acura is fine with 87... I know the Acura requires premium but I think the Acura's driver's manual states that 87 will not produce knocks but I also seem to remember reading that one has to put premium more often than 87...or something like that .. I put the "good stuff" in it all the time... Why take a chance? But then again, I drive it to empty more often than not also, so... Where is my logic? Here I am, making a federal case about premium versus regular and how many times/week equals what amount one pays extra and stuff and how I prefer NOT to pay for premium but I actually do and then I drive it to empty...just because... Reality is complex....

Early J-cars! ? Modern station wagons with AWD! ?

Perhaps you want something more recent then?

Who actually fills up the tank two or three times a week, maybe the mailman or a police officer in a Tahoe PPV?! LOL!! That would be a boring A to B drive for you then The extra dough is totally worth it to me, life is too short to spend it in a boring A to B car everyday. My LS1 5.7L singing the SBC melody while running on Premium or my Silvy 6.2L SBC, Tuned and running on Premium? Yeah, totally worth it. Same if not better mileage and the performance gains in my truck on a Premium tune compared to even a Stock tune is pretty significant. Of course I'm running an Airaid CAI kit and Magnaflow exhaust with the tune to complete it ?

I’ve driven my fair share of Challengers on both extremes - from the standard V6 to the high-performance SRT and Hellcat models. But I never had any time behind the wheel of the R/T with its 5.7 V8. That changed in the summer when a bright orange Charger R/T Shaker was dropped off for a week. This allowed me to ask a question that has been sitting in my head for some time: Is the R/T the best bang for your buck in the Challenger family? The Shaker sets itself apart from other Challenger models with the use of a ‘Shaker’ scoop that prominently pops up from the hood. There is also a blackout treatment on several trim pieces and wheels that make it look even more imposing on the road. Along with the scoop, the Shaker package does add a new cold-air intake seated right in front of the driver’s side corner. This addition should boost the output of the 5.7L HEMI V8 (372 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque when paired with the eight-speed automatic. But FCA’s spec sheet doesn’t say anything about the Shaker Package adding more oomph or not. When you first start up the R/T Shaker, it makes presence known with a deep and loud exhaust note. I had to do a double-take the first time as I was wondering if I was given either an R/T Scat Pack or a Hellcat by mistake. While it may lack the high power numbers of the 6.4 and supercharged 6.2 V8s, the 5.7 is no slouch. 60 mph comes in at just over five seconds and power is seemingly available at any speed. My tester came with the optional Performance Handling Group that adds upgraded springs, sway bars, and a set of Bilstein shocks. This does improve the handling by a fair amount with less body roll. But it doesn’t feel nimble due to a curb weight of around 4,158 pounds. The steering has a quick response, but there is a noticeable lack of road feedback. If you want your muscle car to have some handling, consider the Camaro or Mustang. Handling could be improved with some high-performance tires like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S or Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric. Nothing new to report on the Challenger’s interior. It still has the angled center stack, retro-inspired gauges, and easy to use UConnect infotainment system. The seats are where the Challenger loses some points as it feels like you’re sitting on top of cinder blocks. A memory foam seat cushion could help with comfort on longer drives. The Shaker package is surprisingly good value, adding $2,500 to the base price of the R/T which begins at $34,295. But you’ll need to be careful on the option sheet, or you’ll end up with something quite expensive. My tester came with an as-tested price of $46,555, which is $300 more than an R/T Scat Pack Widebody with the 6.4 HEMI V8. The Dodge Challenger is getting up there in age and sadly cannot compete with the likes of the Camaro and Mustang in terms of handling. But Dodge is still able to offer a lot of performance in the form of the R/T. With a potent V8 engine, old school styling, and different packages like the Shaker to make your Challenger stand out, the R/T is possibly the best value and well-rounded model in the lineup. Disclaimer: Dodge Provided the Challenger, Insurance, and One Tank of Gas. This article contains affiliate links. Purchasing through these links may earn Cheers and Gears a commission at no additional cost to you and help support independent automotive journalism. Keep your Dodge Challenger looking great with custom fit car cover and Meguiar's Automotive Detailing Products Year: 2019 Make: Dodge Model: Challenger Trim: R/T Engine: 5.7 HEMI VVT V8 Engine Driveline: Eight-Speed Automatic, Rear-Wheel Drive Horsepower @ RPM: 372 @ 5,200 Torque @ RPM: 400 @ 4,400 Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 16/25/19 Curb Weight: 4,158 lbs Location of Manufacture: Brampton, Ontario Base Price: $34,295 As Tested Price: $46,555 (Includes $1,495.00 Destination Charge) Options: "Shaker" Package - $2,500.00 TorqueFlite Eight-Speed Automatic Transmission - $1,595.00 Performance Handling Group - $1,495.00 Driver Convenience Group - $1,295.00 Power Sunroof - $1,295.00 UConnect 4C Nav with 8.4-inch Display - $1,095.00 Alpine Sound Group with Subwoofer - $995.00 Shakedown Graphics - $495.00 View full article

Ah yes...those Canadian Trudeau's...

I do the 1/4 tank fill-up as well especially in the C5 being that it is a tall and narrow tank behind the driver and passenger. Usually better for the fuel pump even though most are pretty low in the tank, it's a peace of mind thing too.

Amen brother!

Three times a week is pretty far fetched for most people. Now, in Canadia (sp on purpose) you might have to drive a lot further to do business or get to work. It's definitely not for nothing, premium makes a huge difference with performance especially in a vehicle with an engine that runs a lot better or requires it per the timing or higher compression ratio. Now, it is absolutely a waste of money to run premium in a car or truck that's not tuned for it or doesn't require it. In the end, it's my money and my business. I have and do invest a lot of money in some great annuity funds so I know what I have to "burn" on premium gasoline in my rides.

Pierre Trudeau V Richard Nixon When the Prime Minister of Canada, Pierre Trudeau heard that President Richard Nixon had called him an "asshole", Trudeau responded, "I've been called worse things by better people" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and then there is this: https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2008/12/08/nixon_tapes_include_testy_trudeau_chat.html Ah yes....Nixon...

I honestly think everyone should get their auto's dialed in as the OEM just does not get the performance fun level out of the engine that 3rd party folks can. Zoom Zoom

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I do. My commute is over 40 miles one way.

Hahaha...No Way! ?

usually in my neck, premium is +40 over regular at most typical stations but i get most of my fillups now at costco. Premium at Costco most days is about 20 cents higher than regular at typical stations. You can argue the true cost of a costco membership, but if you are getting one already due to the great meat, big ass cheesecake and pumpkin pie, and the GM costco rebate potential, then it can help save on premium.

If every EV owner did this, the public chargers would all be completely empty til at least noon. Wonder why I always see them with at least a half dozen cars there at 9AM?

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Then that constant need to run to a gas station and top off especially if bad weather is coming makes going EV just that much better where you just plug in at night at your home and know you have a full tank of Acceleration fuel in the morning. Surprised no one that has emoji making skills has not taken this picture of a Rivian and made that green indicator line move from left to right in a empty to full indication.

That 10 bucks is per fill-up. As a one-time shot, 10 bucks is nothing, but if you are filling up two or three times a week (not unreasonable for some to fill-up 3 times a week) , that 10 bucks translates to (we will do twice a week) becomes 20 bucks. Per month that translates to 80 bucks... @ 80 bucks...THAT becomes quite pricey. I know I want to do other things with my money than give an extra 80 bucks to big oil... Keep in mind we are talking about a daily driven car...no need to have a premium gasolined daily driven car when a regular gasolined car can and does the same job. Which is getting from point A to Point B. Unless of course its a job and/or business related daily driven car. As a fun car to drive around, a premium gasolined car...well...that sounds like...fun.

That wasn't a THM200 behind the 260? Dad had a TH200 (I think) behind a '77 Pontiac 301 V8. Looking at a '75-82 Chiltons, there were the following: THM180 THM200 THM 250 / 350 / 375B THM400 THM425 The above are grouped by pan shape, so the 250/ 350/ 375B were the same basic unit. The 400 & 425 are strongly related, but of course the 425 was configured for the FWD E-Bodies. I never heard of the THM180 before today.