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To you. To me...the Corvette IS the best sports car in the world. Why? Because the Corvette costs thousands of dollars less and I get almost the performance that ANY other sports car does. And...I could spend just a tiny bit more on Chevy's ENORMOUS aftermarket performance goodies and I BETTER by ENORMOUS amounts ANY sports car in the world. And my Corvette would be just as reliable as it is stock from the factory. The AMG GT will cost you your arm and leg on repair bills after the warranty is up and if you decide to modify it...it will cost you your other arm and leg doing so...and reliability? By God man, there are no more limbs for you to barter with to pay for that...you'd be selling your organs...

Let me introduce you to the C8 Corvette Supercruise will eventually arrive in a year or two with the other iterations like maybe the Grand Sport...maybe it will even be available with the Z51 package next year... Remember though, Corvette prices arent suppose to reach boutique levels...so maybe interiors might take a hit a tad and the best that could be had is a Z51 interior even with a Zora... But that C8 improvement on its interiors is awesome...I wouldnt be asking more...honestly, a C4 Corvette interior was not bad for what you got and it was BETTER than the Porsche interior of the same time frame no matter what anybody says. A C5 interior was also not bad for what you got and yes...the same 911 era interior was a lot better as compared to its last gen and the C5 Vette's, but then again, the 911's price tag soared. A C6 interior was not bad either, but the pattern here is to bitch about the Corvette's interior. A C7 interior was great, but the pattern continues as to bitch about Corvette interiors. A C8 interior is AWESOME and the pattern to bitch about Corvette interiors SHOULD stop no matter how expensive some of these trims get...but the pattern to most anti-Vette folk will be to bitch about Corvette interiors...

OR... Lap Times 5 Track Corvette ZR1 Porsche 911 Turbo S NCM Motorsport Park 1:25.93 1:32.07 Virginia International Raceway Grand East Course (post 01/2014) 2:39.50 2:46.80 Laguna Seca (post 1988) 1:32.46 1:33.21 Hockenheim Short 1:06.90 1:07.40 Willow Springs 1:23.70 1:24.26 https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/epm24ggtlfz0

Chevrolet Corvette has been, and should ALWAYS be, the jewel in the crown. The C8 is a culmination of 67 years, it is untouchable.

@smk4565 You know what is funny and you havent realized it? You...yourself...keep on comparing other cars to the Corvette. Do you know what that signifies? Do you know what that means when you...yourself, keeps on throwing all kinds of cars trying to take down the Corvette? Its not a bad thing, for the Corvette, to be compared to cars costing thousands upon thousands of dollars...and thousands more than then the Corvette... Its not a good thing... for the other cars you keep throwing at the Vette to try to prove a point... The only car consistently mentioned in your rants...is the Corvette. Think about it...

*SIGH* The thing is... THAT bolded what I quoted...is what THE Corvette is all about. THAT is the VERY definition of Corvette. THAT is why its a...CHEVROLET and NOT a Cadillac. Funny...you are the one to be pushing for a mid-engined Cadillac to have all that high horsepower and for the Corvette to sgtay neutered. YOU are the one to be confused as to why GM uses a Chevrolet as its halo car. Well...THAT right there is one identity marker in what makes the Corvette a Corvette and what makes Corvette special in the car world and why the Corvette sells the amount it sells. The Corvette does have trims that are double. A 2019 ZR1 was 135 000. And you are right. The ZR1 was not the volume seller. But the ZR1 is not what Chevrolet banks on to sell on volume.... Chevrolet has a business model for the Corvette. That business model has been a success for Chevrolet for the last 50 years plus.

Compilation of the 2019 Corvette ZR1 against the 2019 AMG GT. https://www.asburyauto.com/compare/2019-chevrolet-corvette-vs-2019-mercedes-amg-gt/172003 To quote the write up since this is comparing all reviews and speaks VOLUMES: Recommendations © 1999 - 2020 Advanta-STAR Automotive Research. All rights reserved. This vehicle comparison and all of the content in it are provided only by license from Advanta-STAR Automotive Research Corporation of America. If you are not a legally licensed user of this vehicle comparison, it is against federal law to access it, copy it, forward it or use it in any manner whatsoever. Any unauthorized use of this vehicle comparison is a violation of U.S. and international law and is punishable criminally and civilly. 6IUEX-0KENZ 45.55.47.189 2020/04/28 J.D. Power and Associates rated the Corvette second among midsize premium sporty cars in owner reported satisfaction. This includes how well the vehicle performs and satisfies its owner’s expectations. The Mercedes AMG GT isn’t in the top three. The Corvette was chosen as one of Car and Driver’s “Top Ten” for 15 of the last 22 years. The Mercedes AMG GT has never been a Car and Driver “Top Ten” pick. The Corvette was selected by Automobile Magazine as their 2014 Car of the Year. The Mercedes AMG GT has never been chosen. A group of representative automotive journalists from North America selected the Corvette as the 2014 North American Car of the Year. The Mercedes AMG GT has never been chosen. The Chevrolet Corvette outsold the Mercedes AMG GT by over 12 to one during 2018. © 1991-2018 Advanta-STAR Automotive Research. All rights reserved.

AMG One is a Vapor Auto and I doubt will see the light of day plus it is considered a Hyper Car exotic if it ever truly gets built. On top of the point that it does not compare to the Corvette or 911 in their class. Except the fact that America builds a better sports car at a lower price and discuss this rather than changing the story to attempt to always try and show off the AMG / MB as product you believe to be better, but is marketing only. Even the SLS AMG cannot beat the ZR1. Part 2 ZR1 versus AMG C63 Double Losses by the overrated AMG.

All wheel drive 911 weighs less than a C8. On the 911, awd adds 139 lbs, it isn’t that big a penalty. They can cut weight from the Corvette if they want to spend money, build it out of carbon fiber if they are worried about weight. The AMG One is 1,000 lbs lighter than a C8, so weight can always be removed for a price.

Yeah...Montreal cops do that too. And yes...what you said is logical that most busy metro area PDs have this as standard protocol. They are there, they were called, they might as well "earn" their work effort of being called to a scene of an accident that could have been solved by just writing up a joint accident report otherwise... Like you said, its revenue so they might issue a "failure to control your vehicle" ticket or an "obstruction of traffic" ticket or some other bullshyte bylaw thing they could write you up for. But in Montreal...that kind of thing is rare. Well...Montreal police and Quebec Provincial Police (The SQ) have other ways that trap you into tickets. This way is not a favorite of theirs. But like @dfelt said...its really a safety net to protect oneself.

Stop making fun of your brother, or is that a cousin? Inbreeding makes things so hard to tell.

First off, in those videos that you attack that are PROOF is that the 2019 AMG could NOT hold their own against the 2019 Corvette ZR1! Enough said, MERCEDES LOST! Two, The bulk of society does not buy nor care about the overpriced auto's you mention here nor would you race a Bently, Brabus, Phantom or even an Escalade against a Corvette ZR1! Final Point, is this thread is about the C8 Corvette. The fact that you have to throw auto's priced 4 time or more against the corvette in your attempt to prove that America cannot build a true performance race car shows that you would rather be an Ostrich with your head in the sand than one to appreciate true engineering power. Maybe you should spend a little time at this site to fully understand the C8 Better! https://www.chevrolet.com/performance/corvette I also am sure once the Carbon Fiber rims are made available much like what the Ford Mustang has that we will see further weight reductions as they move forward with other areas that can be changed reducing weight. I would not be surprised to see them point out the weight savings on the 2021 ZR1

“No body buys those cars”.

And remember, folks, not even a right turn on red on the Ile de Montreal (Island of Montreal). The whole island includes a few other cities. Huge Laval is on a different island, so it's exempt from that rule. So are individual cities north and south of the St. Lawrence River. This is a good one. It's a true story. An American idiot goes to Quebec and runs a stop sign. The placard was octagonal ... and red. When he got pulled over, he said, "Well, it said arret, and not stop." In France and some European countries, they'll put stop on the sign. In Quebec, they stick to their mother language. ("We do not need to speak French ... we need French in order to speak.") Still, basic Driver's Ed 101 says red is understood to mean the highest level of caution and stopping ... internationally. People like this make us look bad, as in "ugly Americans."

The 911 Turbo S is 3500 LBS... A Carrera is 3100lbs. 3500lbs because of AWD and THAT makes it porky if you wanna be honest about it. A C8 is 3600lbs. And that would be because Corvette's "PDK" unit is heavy, but sturdy to take all that possible high torque in future models. And for the folk that will heavily modify their base Corvettes. Remember, Chevy's V8 engine has the world's most aftermarket support. And that aftermarket support pushes these engines to ungodly levels of horsepower and torque... Carbon fibre also adds cost. Its not an engineering problem. Its more of a "how to mass produce carbon fibre at a lower cost so it could be viable to sell Corvette at 60 000-90 000 dollars and to do that profitable" problem. But honestly, YOU as a Mercedes lover, you really dont want Chevy Corvette engineers to figure out how to mass produce carbon fibre on the cheap because your ego will just explode... PS: its not only to mass produce carbon fibre on the cheap on Corvette's assembly line that poses a problem. Its also to find a way to to repair carbon fibre on the cheap when Corvette body panels get accidented because Corvettes are not garage queen supercars. They are raced. They are daily driven. Corvettes get smacked around pretty good.

"Walking & talking is dangerous!" ?

People pay more attention to their phones than they do anything else. That's not the 2500 HD's fault.

This just in : the Lincoln / Rivian co-developed product is... DEAD. As in: cancelled (vs. delayed).

The AMG GT costs too much to qualify for Car and Driver's 10 best list. The AMG GT R is faster around the Nurburgring than any Corvette ever made. As far as sales volume goes, the Corvette costs E-class money, if the Corvette were double the price that volume would be gone. The Corvette is outstanding performance per dollar, perhaps the best performance per dollar in the world, but that doesn't make it better than other cars. Better value maybe, but not a better car.

The SLS AMG and that C63 are over 10 years old. The E63 runs an 11.0 second 1/4 mile and a GT63 4-door a 10.9, those would beat that ZR1 easily but Car and Driver did clock a 2019 ZR1 at 10.8 seconds. The GT coupe is not all wheel drive, that is why it has a 11.4 second 1/4 mile. The next gen GT is going to be all wheel drive, they will get their straight line specs. Although keep in mind an AMG GT with 577 hp beats a 755 hp ZR1 around the Nurburgring. AMG has the chassis, brakes, handing, steering, and suspension already there, when they add all wheel drive they can add power. Corvette is fast but doesn't have a nice interior, I'd like to see the Corvette have a 2021 Escalade level interior and Super Cruise so that is is more on par with interiors you get from other high end sports cars.

If people at large become disinterested in living in dense cities due to being pandemic hot spots, they're certainly going to think twice about moving into a converted office building where they fear going outside their front door. At least home owners can go into their yards. Everything is in a holding pattern right now and likely thru the summer. If COVID comes back significantly in the fall, that holding pattern will push thru into next year. That's a LOT of taxes on empty buildings producing nothing. And if there's no buyers for these buildings, and no income to pay taxes, etc, the next inevitability is loan defaulting and a commercial real estate bubble going POP.

LMAO! The ZR1 does a 20' burn out at the green and still stays with then smokes the AMG. Good stuff. Thanks for posting as well

Exactly, up until 110 mph the Porsche is barely faster, like a tenth of a sec. to 60. HA! 'Murica! ??

Seems Ford is going to GO BIG with SCREENS when the 2021 version of their F-150 pickups come out according to the leaked pics at The Drive :https://www.thedrive.com/news/32948/the-new-2021-ford-f-150s-interior-goes-big-on-screens

Thanks for posting, interesting how they state the Porsche is faster than the Corvette. Yes in the lower speeds it is and yet like all small engine sports cars, it runs out of power at 100 mph and from there the corvette continues to pull and speed away from 110 up to the top end where it is 4 seconds faster than the Porsche. This just proves that American OEM can and does build auto's that are faster than the Europeans just like in Ford vs Ferrari.

I could easily see investment groups buy up commercial building to turn them into apartments / condos. While I am not one of them suburbs is as close to the city I want to be, I know many love to live in dense cities. That could drive a change in the makeup of cities with more shopping or at least delivery to home as people move into commercial buildings changed to apartments. Change is inevitable. I would say we should expect a 10 to 15% contraction in companies commercial space used as they figure out how to have workers work from home.

Even if all C8 Corvettes had AWD would you want to take the chance that some knucklehead might slide into your car in the snow or ice? It's hardly ever my car or my driving that I have to worry about it's the moron who isn't paying attention driving a $500 hoopdy with no insurance and can't drive for sh!t.

RE: Durango.. From my favourite Auto review channel

Maybe the real issue is why is Hyundai/KIA selling FWD cars the same size as the KIA Stinger. Also, nobody expects a KIA to sell for $35K or more. The K900 has the same sales problem, only worse. Maybe Hyundai/KIA would be better off ditching the FWD cars entirely and focus on the FWD CUVs, while allowing the G70 and Stinger to live. Then again, who wants to buy from hyper hustling dealers and a cheap image (especially the front fascia!)? The Stinger (and K900) need better looks in order to sell better. Some people still think it is 1998 rather than 2020.

A lot of those buildings will be reused by others. The commercial real estate crash may spur new (rental) investments in a few years. Remember, gentrification of Offices (not residential) starts with cheap buildings AND low rents. Of course, it could take five years for that to actually happen. In some cases, there simply is no substitute for a group of people working onsite. As for Toyota and other OEMs, the average buyer age is a symptom of a much larger problem. As always, the real issue is that too many cars at MSRP are priced too damn high. Average transaction prices on new cars are already close to $40K, leased or financed. What young people want is a NEW CAR priced at $10K, not $40K. There are simply too many used cars in good enough shape at $20K or less that attracts young buyers, given that OEMs expect people to pay top dollar for the latest and greatest. Also, do not underestimate weak demand thanks to semi-flat salaries because of rising health care costs that eat away at anything not health care related, including buying a new car. For EVs to actually sell, they must be priced to dissuade people from buying a USED CAR, not a new car. That is why low prices for BEVs are required.

Yeah, this cop was actually pretty cool said he had no choice and his hands were tied due to the city bureau policy. Basically, his supervisor would be looking for the citation or he would get written up. Pretty sh!tty.

That what was said above and the Zora will be a hybrid electric. Meaning...it will have electric motors boosting that power to 1000HP. How many electric motors? 3? Maybe 4? Well...undoubtedly, like @William Maley said waaaay above there in the beginning...IT WILL BE AWD... But its nice to ignore all logical posts by logical people when some of us have a goddam biased agenda around here... And it gets tiring... PS: We know NOTHING about the ZR1... just that it will be a TTV8 possibly the 5.5liter and perhaps it WONT be a flat plane crank. Perhaps Chevrolet engineers will have a traditional mechanical AWD system for it? Maybe like @USA-1 was suggesting what the C8 platform is capable of with its suspension geometry and sticky sticky rubber wont need AWD? The Z06 I believe will have active aero. The other trims, ZR1, ZORA will most likely have it too... I am not sure about the Grand Sport, though. Suffice it to say, the C8 platform is a monster...

Ownership costs will still not be like Ferrari or AMG maintenance. I was waiting to see if you'd catch it. The Blackwing LTA V8 that the LT6/7 are based off of is a Hot V TT V8 like the LT6/7 will be in the C8 for packaging and reduced lag. Not new territory for the General. Either way, these engines are going to be awesome in the C8. Traction won't be an issue with the Z06 as the base C8 has so much grip that guys are having a hard time getting the tires to spin to do burnouts with the 500hp LT2 with all nannies off. That's also why they moved the engine to mid ship...for better grip in the back. The Z cars and Zora will have wider, stickier Michelin PS Cup 2 tires as well.

As a tech worker WFH for almost 3 years, I'm not really interested to going back to commuting to an cube in an office, though I may at some point in my career. I do miss some aspects of office life, like going out to lunch w/ my team or happy hours...

Since we may come to bowing as a society instead of shaking hands ...

Boosting engines (SC or TT) is definitely not new territory for GM. Recent past LSA and LS9 and current LT4 and LT5 are all modern boosted GM engines, with superchargers, but none-the-less boosted and they've been reliable engines. They've made a V8 Hybrid Tahoe/Yukon/Silverado/Sierra not that long ago ('08-'13) so also not new territory. I've driven a 2013 Tahoe Hybrid 6.0L V8, it was very smooth and quiet with a seamless transition between the two electric motors and the ICE V8, didn't sell well enough as it was too expensive for the time when the standard Tahoe started at $36k Hybrid started at over $50k, battery tech. just wasn't there yet. GM builds their LS/LT V8 engines to require minimal maintenance, including boosted setups. Ferrari's do require a ton of maintenance and they build them to that spec.

That is why I have long said Cadillac should have a car above the Corvette. If you want an interior nicer than an Escalade and you want a sports car, you have to buy something European. The Corvette can't play in that level, nor should it, the Corvette works because it isn't crazy expensive. But clearly there are people that think $300k is cheap for a new car, that is why they walk right past the Rolls Royce Ghost and buy a Phantom.

EV were going to be a hard sell, that was a universal fact, even in our gung-ho economy before COVID. Once we come out of this, people are going to be more cautious than ever with their money, with EV facing an even steeper uphill battle due to their poor value per dollar.