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Was thinking of you, think you may want to re think your vehicle choices. I still vote for Charger even though you have a ton of points on your GM card. And Gryes look good on the charger, you may want to consider them over white. White still looks good though. Adam ondre free climbing el capitan.... This should be a required accesory for all of you folks here that like 70's era cars...

Found wealth in my own garage...

I can't put this on the June spotting thread ... because I spotted it in my imagination ... and laughed. - - - - - I saw this person driving this "car" and saying, "Candy, little girl?" from its windows.

We can test aggressive throttle mode when I come out to Seattle next week. Fail. No wardrobe malfunctions with above-mentioned truck entries.

If the Bruins lose tomorrow... Maybe they should change their pick me up song of Im Shipping Up to Boston... To this: Fits them perfectly... choreography, lyrics and all!!!

Im in hockey/baseball mode...so this would be my version of two Rangers pic(s)

2 Rangers :

I think this one just needs to be put down lol.

Ignoring the other crud, Mercedes = GM End of debate. They both build cheap ass auto's to luxury auto's and Daimler current owner of MB also builds Vans like GM, Trucks and Buses. MB is NOT a Luxury brand only. It is a brand that builds some Luxury models. How does this relate to Tesla? It does not! End of debate.

On a truck forum I read, AS/S is almost unilaterally loathed.

Interesting read on Tesla and Competition. While they do not say that Tesla will go away any time soon, Tesla does need to pay attention to adding product and freshening up their portfolio faster as Companies like Rivian come to market, Ford and GM start producing their BEVs and other companies especially the Chinese enter the global market as they have shipped their first batch of 100 BEVs to Norway all pre-sold. I think we will see a very different landscape in the auto industry by 2025. Tesla Might Finally Have Some Competition. From Ford. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Why are we still talking about Mercedes on a thread about Tesla? Stop feeding the fanboy. I suggest you do some actual math (instead of just staring at numbers that don’t even support your argument) and bring this back up on a thread about Mercedes. This is getting old. For the record though, four out of that top five you provided ALL start under $60K. We are done here.

E class is bundled with the CLS... In effect, putting the C Class in 3rd place... With the exception of the GLE, what I posted are in effect the models that sell the most in the US... Their bread and butter lease queens... 7600 C Class 7000 GLBs 15 000 GLCs THAT right there, is a LOT (30 000 units) of $38 000 - $43 000 vehicles. And I know those are just starting price points. Id say the avg lease prices of these probably leave the store at 45 000 - 46 000 dollars. Still... If you take a looksie at Buick... https://www.buick.com/ These fall under a Buick level of competition and YOU yourself dont consider Buick as luxury... This little exercise just brings home the points: 1. Mercedes is not entirely luxury...ESPECIALLY to what their bread and butter vehicles selll at IN the USA... 2. Further proof that Mercedes-Benz is akin to General Motors rather than Cadillac. And if we factor in the HOME market of Europe...those A Classes, CLAs and C Class cars are just Chevrolets for Europe...

Needs anal glands expressed.

I prefer this kind of scenery. Besides, she seems to be smarter and more down to earth. Although I do understand that bimbos exist with all the various car niches...

And by 'go away'; allow me to clarify. Via my experiences I place sales persons ABOVE marketing; I've found them to be more honest that the ads/press releases.

But, But, But the scenery is so nice with woman and lifted trucks!

I remember something my wife told me, Seeing a Woman dressed like this in Stiletto's indicates they like their men Tall and Long! I will say that is one thing I love about my Escalade is the silky smooth shifting even under aggressive throttle. Like a hot knife through butter.

Interesting to read about what happened there. I'm not sure on the accuracy of this because of the age and I'm not sure what Ford REALLY ended up using but this said they didn't utilize the 9spd from GM. https://www.motortrend.com/news/ford-gm-nine-speed-transmission-shared-news/ " Several years ago, we reported that Ford and General Motors had agreed to work together on a pair of next-generation transmissions. GM was tasked with developing a nine-speed automatic for front-wheel-drive vehicles while Ford worked on a 10-speed for rear-drive applications. In theory, they'd be able to use the other's transmission and each save money. In reality, things went a little differently. Automotive News reports that while GM has been happy to use Ford's 10-speed in several vehicles such as the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 and Cadillac Escalade, Ford has yet to use GM's nine-speed. Instead, Ford developed a modified eight-speed version that will appear in the 2019 Focus, as well as several other 2019 models. It began work on two additional eight-speed automatics—one for performance use and one for smaller engines. The reason? GM's nine-speed didn't provide enough of a boost in fuel economy. "The small efficiency benefit did not justify the added weight and cost of an extra clutch and gear," a Ford spokesperson told Automotive News in a statement. "We've engineered our nine-speeds for even more refined shifts," a GM spokesperson told Automotive News in a statement. "Smaller steps between gears in a nine vs. an eight-speed enable smoother shifts for customers." "

I know it doesn't matter but that first pic, the wheel is also on the curb... Regardless, I get your point, lol. @David, the 10spd is for RWD applications and their 8/9spd is for FWD applications. (I thought it was originally a 9spd co-developed with GM but I see them only using 8spd versions).

(Remembers living in Arizona for twelve years and seeing all those "chicks" driving useless jacked up/lifted Pick Ups") In other words, it shouldn't matter if it is a "chick" truck. Just skip the fact that Fords best selling full size pick up comes with a bed that is a whole foot longer than the much smaller Maverick. The 10 speed is for RWD applications I believe. The 8 speed should be fine.

Apparently…. The First Ever Chick Truck. With a standard subcompact bed. ?

And the 2.0T models. The CVT is hybrid-only.

Have to say that I hope they revamp the front end of the Ranger to more closely align with the rest of the truck famliy. Overall a good lookin lineup. Looking at the press release, I have to say I am not impressed with some of the power figures: Hybrid - 2.5L Atikinson-cycle four-cylinder hybrid powertrain - 191HP / 155 lb-ft of torque with CVT. EPA-estimated 40 mpg city / 37 mpg combined. with 13.8 gallon tank, 500 miles per tank. 1,500lbs payload / 2,000 lbs towing. 2.0L EcoBoost, 250hp / 277 lb-ft of torque with 8sp transmission, FWD or AWD configuration. 4K towing package doubles the towing to 4,000 lbs Apple/Android system inside, FIT's system for those with 3D printers, Co-Pilot 360, etc. FlexBed with tie-downs, slots, etc for customization of bed use. Two 110 outlets in the bed to go along with USB and 110 outlets in the cab. Bed is 4.5 feet long. Maverick to be offered in 3 trim levels, XL, XLT and Lariat at launch. FX4 package can be added to the XLT or Lariat AWD versions only. Over all a decent little truck, only mistake I see is the CVT on the Hybrid.

At least they had sense enough to use the 8 speed for the AWD model.

Thanks for the reminder, totally forgot about this as a crazy week for me. Ford's press release here: 40 MPG City. Standard Hybrid. Seats Five. Starts Under $20K. All-New 2022 Ford Maverick: Did We Mention It’s a Truck? | Ford Media Center Ford Complete Truck Lineup now with the Maverick. Ton's of documents and pictures at the press release posted above and below here: 40 MPG City. Standard Hybrid. Seats Five. Starts Under $20K. All-New 2022 Ford Maverick: Did We Mention It’s a Truck? | Ford Media Center

Now, in a completely different direction in genre and in mood I LOVE the music part of this song. The guitar parts and the drums (although subtle) are just... incredible! The vocals are awesome. I just dont like the lyrics.

I thought it was about average sale price, not base MSRP, because base models doesn't exist? 5 of 6 Cadillacs start under $49k. Only 1 of 4 Tesla's starts under $50k. And yet people want to claim Cadillacs bring more money than Teslas? As if every Cadillac sold is maxed to limit in options, and every competitor is only selling base models with zero option, that isn't happening. Probably like 60-70% of any car's volume is the mid-level trim, the base price is false advertising, like the Jeep Wagoneer that starts are $59,900 but has a $2100 destination charge so really it starts at $62,000 but they don't want to advertise that, and probably the base model isn't even built unless custom ordered so the $3,000 "convenience" package is added on, and now it is $65,000 is the real world cheapest version, but the magazine ad says $59,900. And I just picked that as an example, 100% of car companies to that.

The GLS outsells the GLB, and almost outsold the C-class, but I think the C-class was maybe down to a new model coming, or maybe just no one buys sedans anymore too. You also realize C-class and GLC are priced the same as a Lexus RX or Cadillac XT5, which are the best sellers for the competition. And I looked at my local dealer, they have about 10 or so GLB250's all around $47-49k, the C300s and GLC300s are around 50 to low 50s and obviously the AMG's are more but that is low volume. Mercedes can't be akin to General Motors because Mercedes is 1 brand. GM since its inception has been a group car car companies/brands.