loki

yes, i have to agree on both. 68, a bmw that's actually "rounded" around the corners. at least the majority of BMW's i see. i think , sadly slap a saturn emblem on it, it would sell oodles here. too bad the diesels wouldn't make it.

very nice looking at the specs pdf.... almost 8 qrts for the v6's oil?! no wonder people think you can go ~10K without changing it. the L99 is a slight let down... -22hp and the 3900+lbs for the SS auto. otherwise, can't say it's a let down.

isn't the 09 bu hybrid rated "much" higher than the 08?

maybe. but did you hear what isreal did to ... a Syrian nuclear plant?...they bombed it. if the nations around Iran feel like it's a threat, they'll take action. packistan has nukes, india, china, isreal... india isn't in the nuclear non proliferation treaty, iran is. whether the treaty has any teeth i don't know, but nuclear should decrease their dependence on oil, that should lower the price cause it frees up demand. i don't know if they have nationalized fields or what not. we would not see any of that oil, it'd go to the middle east/ india/ china most likely, but still. don't forget our military is the biggest single user of "oil". if we weren't all around the world, i bet the price would go down 1/3 after closing those bases/operations (vast inefficiencies)..... who knows, maybe create budget surplus. would also increase the power of the dollar, after that happened i bet the price would 1/2 when that happens. so...lets say $50 /. barrel. that would give us <$1.50 / gallon even if the taxes went up "moderately". edit: "scenario" iran "gives" nukes to terrorists:..... as of now, that would be a moderate threat. i'm more doubtful of a threat if we stayed out of that area with our military.

balth and satty.... nice conversation, keep it that way. i would think that if we stop threatening Iran, & it's "peaceful nuclear program" that could push oil down $10 in a day. setting a month to start withdrawal from Iraq if there is "progress" or flat every month till that month would push oil down $10, the end of the year "we" will be occupying iraq by the UN "charter" or treaty, whatever, anyway.

didn't someone say that cruze or something similar would have a hatchback/wagon model... time to dump the vibe!!!!!

sorry for so many posts.. eliminate the ethanol subsidy, and that could be closer to only 500million deficit, or less

allowing the best options to work, not favoring anything. if ethanol wants to take oil's place for transportation... than cellulosic would take off. allowing nuclear recycling would create an industry instead of throwing it under yucca MT, and promoting new plants cause they recycle their "waste". IF "bush" did have balls he'd try to correct his mistakes (or admit them) these last few months...and ones others have made. forever.

you sure could buy a lot of petrol for £13K to £15K. do they have a tax or fee for "high" g/km CO2? 12 - 5 mpg difference is very surprising. what's the difference in weight? the gearing changes for a 2.8L DI would certainly help... but not by much.

being a little careless with my actions in love, and realizing that too late. or just being to introverted.

government should be the only business run by it's union, US. and many people don't pay attention to what those people have done, the media rarely "forces" unreelection, on fair grounds.

to bad it'd be to hard to put the reverse lights on/in the exhaust..... just an idea.

no surprise. the previous congresses did nothing or steal from the gas tax income, now they want more income, prolly with no promises to not spend that money on anything else. like the cali post... how are they supposed to make the same income when demand has been legislated smaller, like with CAFE increases

yeah, but he doesn't make the laws, he can only push a direction, and sign or veto laws. true, but liberal doesn't mean what it used to either. didn't Cleveland or some other ohio city face bankruptcy recently... a city in cali was/is facing bankruptcy too. maybe cali will go bankrupt and only the yuppies will live there.... and they'll realize either they know nothing or feel victorious and then leave cali for everyone to move back in. lol

looks good. the radio / HVAC is really the worst part of it. edit: 370 ft lbs.... beefie 3.6L or the v8?

from a self proclaimed "know nothing" about economics...... yay, subsidies! ... from one to the other.

I know it's more for crash ratings, i'm not a fan of these higher and higher belt lines. otherwise, looks great!

looks sportugly.

can be misinterpreted, but socialists take your possessions with "force" capitalists protect their possessions with "force"

no offense, but some of your spellings are horrible. nice that some brand new and not yet built vehicles will be shown off. I won't be watching these shows most likely.

when i first saw the title I instantly thought charity vs socialism. the end result is the same, but choice is the difference. you may give to charities that help "world poverty", but when that choice is taken away as a "world poverty tax", that's not charity anymore. edit: Catholics are supposed to believe in charity, but socialism is evil because you no longer need to care about the cause.

i was talking about the integration and the gauge cluster "hood" materials wouldn't be the same, but the design looks the same.... unless it's a 2 vs 3 gauge cluster

good to hear about Kim. truck looks nice, i was iffy on it's looks when it first came out.

no missouri stops. lol *no helpful advice at this time*

in pic #6, there is a prius behind it. looks like imitation. no doubt it'll be better than T, but does look like a prius. they just want a piece of the pie. maybe they'll make a diesel variant, that would set them apart, and have some real power to lay down.