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GM did a much better job on the retro conversion than Ford or Chrysler did. The Camaro is just about perfect to symbolize the modern muscle car.

The interior looks high quality and well done, but the design is pretty ugly; the center stack and dash in particular. I suppose it is supposed to look dated though.

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Not my cup of tea at all I'm afraid, I think Ford's Mustang has more attractive "retro" styling. A droptop however would improve the looks dramatically for me.

That said, the Camaro's interior looks diabolically cheap and nasty - and again, trumped by the Mustang.

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GM just sold me another car right....here:

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I might NOT miss Pontiac if Chevy keep this up.

Now about how about this rubbing off on the HHR, Impala, and Cruze?

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GM just sold me another car right....here:

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I might NOT miss Pontiac if Chevy keep this up.

Now about how about this rubbing off on the HHR, Impala, and Cruze?

I don't get how or why people are calling it cheap lookig. It looks very nice.

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So... broken embargo or a conveninent 'leak'?

Re looks, I have absolutely no comment: as Satty posted, we've been seen this before (both in white and black) :lol:

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OK....I'll get this off my chest.....I absolutely HATE that interior. I've hated it from day one when we saw the first prototype units, and I hate it just as much now. It would be a deal-killer for me actually if not for the fact that I feel (due to GM's recent improvements) the fit-and-finish and quality of the switchgear (CTS stalks....) will be pretty nice.....but styling-wise? YUK......

OK.....now I love the exterior styling of this car! But damn, doesn't it look fat and heavy.....especially the rear? I bet this car will come in around 4,000lbs.

The only feature I really don't like is the placement of the back-up lights. But that's a minor detail I guess.

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I don't think that this means there is no navigation. If it's an RS interior as well, then obviously it's probably not top-of-the-line. The interior looks neither cheap nor amazing, just acceptable. If I had to guess, I'd say the materials aren't as good as the GTO's, but obviously it is hard to guess from just these pictures. If the interior is only slightly better than the Mustang, I hope they offer a "nice interior" upgrade so that those who care about the interior can have a pretty nice one. The "premium interior" in the Mustang is worlds better than the base Mustang, though it's still pretty mediocre.

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OK....I'll get this off my chest.....I absolutely HATE that interior. I've hated it from day one when we saw the first prototype units, and I hate it just as much now. It would be a deal-killer for me actually if not for the fact that I feel (due to GM's recent improvements) the fit-and-finish and quality of the switchgear (CTS stalks....) will be pretty nice.....but styling-wise? YUK......

OK.....now I love the exterior styling of this car! But damn, doesn't it look fat and heavy.....especially the rear? I bet this car will come in around 4,000lbs.

The only feature I really don't like is the placement of the back-up lights. But that's a minor detail I guess.

I agree the interior is kinda blah, but I used to hate it and now it seems acceptable. As for weight, the article said 3700lbs.

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Wow.... absolutely awesome.

I'm still pissed about a certain *cough-cough-B-pillar* topic that bugs me

to no end, BUT I will say that this is the most exciting product launch for

a non-Corvette Chevy in over a decade. That interior is great.

And also, like I predicted, the production headlights are much nicer IMHO.

they give the car more personality and fit the fascia much better.

Overall I give it a solid A, however if this was a hardtop I'd be putting

down a deposit at the dealership. Maybe i WILL buy one new... a skilled

body man should be able to do the metal work for a hardtop conversion &

the rest I can do myself. :D

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If 3700 pounds and 52/48 balance is for the V8, that is pretty good. The V6 should be near 50/50 and 3600 pounds perhaps. But if the V6 car is 3700, then the V8 is probably 3850 or more, and then we have another overweight GM car. They picked the right engines for this car though, I hope they never offer some bargain basement engine so they can sell them as rentals like Ford does with the Mustang.

I love the rear end of this car, the front looks good, but it is kind of retro, and retro styling wears our quickly. The concept came 2-3 years ago, plus it is still a year from production, after a couple years on the market that front end will have been around for 5+ years, so it might look dated.

Interior is okay. I don't like the G6/HHR/Aveo circular A/C vents on the side, for one they look cheap, and two, the center vents are rectangular. Why aren't they all squared off or all rounded? The center stack with all those gauges I am not a fan of either. The HVAC controls look odd, they should have done a more streamlined and integrated unit, perhaps not corporate radio/hvac but something better than that. Too retro looking on the interior. The materials and fit/finish seem fine in the pictures (that has to be judged in person though) and adequate for the class, but nothing amazing.

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Hot Hot Hot! A great looking car, inside and out. I love the unique interior... and I'm glad it's not "new GM generic", in the trend started by the CTS (which I love, but it seems every subsequent new GM product will copy the CTS interior to a point).
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Hot Hot Hot! A great looking car, inside and out. I love the unique interior... and I'm glad it's not "new GM generic", in the trend started by the CTS (which I love, but it seems every subsequent new GM product will copy the CTS interior to a point).

Agreed!

The radio and HVAC controls could be toned down a bit. Maybe it would look better if they weren't protruding so much... Otherwise, I really like the interior!

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This is fantastic, inside and out. There isn't a single detail that I don't like.

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I gotta say I'm impressed with the pictures, especially of the red RS model :lovey: If I am to remain driving a car in the near future, it will have to be one that is both interesting and makes a statement... I could see the Camaro fulfilling those requirements (assuming it is also capable of family hauling duties).

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The interior is not my first choice but it not as bad as some try to make it out to be.

The key to the interior is it needs to haqve the touch and feel of the new Malibu. Any cheap plastic touch surfaces will be nailed by the press before the first car rolls off the lot. The Mustang suffers greatly the cheap plastic feel in the console area.

Scott said the prices will mirroe but expect them to be just a little higher than the Stang. Chevy is going to market this car as a better value as you will get thinks like more power and IRS for only a few hundred more. You get what you pay for and in a Camaro you get more per dollar than the Mustang. This also has always been a Chevy trademark vs Ford.

I have heard the 3700 pound weight that right about what I expected for the V6 base on what I have been told. I exect the V8 will be high 3750 lbs just just over 3850 lbs in a full optioned car. I hope the sky is falling 4000+ lbs people will appolgize now.

The convertible in black is a breath taker with the roof up or down. Just wait till you see it in person.

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I enjoy the engine choices.

The HF DI and the LS3? :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

My question... is there really a third engine in the works? And if so, would it be below the HF or in between?

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Wow.... absolutely awesome.

I'm still pissed about a certain *cough-cough-B-pillar* topic that bugs me

to no end, BUT I will say that this is the most exciting product launch for

a non-Corvette Chevy in over a decade. That interior is great.

And also, like I predicted, the production headlights are much nicer IMHO.

they give the car more personality and fit the fascia much better.

Overall I give it a solid A, however if this was a hardtop I'd be putting

down a deposit at the dealership. Maybe i WILL buy one new... a skilled

body man should be able to do the metal work for a hardtop conversion &

the rest I can do myself. :D

:smilewide:

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I'm actually bored with that exterior - but I do like how they've made an effort with the interior. It's a bit cheap looking, but the design cues seem wholly appropriate for the Camaro's 21st century muscle car image.

I like the radio and how the screen "floats". I like the overdone knobs and gauges, too, but then of course I'm a fan of the kitschy MINI.

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The interior is not my first choice but it not as bad as some try to make it out to be.

The key to the interior is it needs to haqve the touch and feel of the new Malibu. Any cheap plastic touch surfaces will be nailed by the press before the first car rolls off the lot. The Mustang suffers greatly the cheap plastic feel in the console area.

Scott said the prices will mirroe but expect them to be just a little higher than the Stang. Chevy is going to market this car as a better value as you will get thinks like more power and IRS for only a few hundred more. You get what you pay for and in a Camaro you get more per dollar than the Mustang. This also has always been a Chevy trademark vs Ford.

I have heard the 3700 pound weight that right about what I expected for the V6 base on what I have been told. I exect the V8 will be high 3750 lbs just just over 3850 lbs in a full optioned car. I hope the sky is falling 4000+ lbs people will appolgize now.

The convertible in black is a breath taker with the roof up or down. Just wait till you see it in person.

Here's hoping there will be a stripped out, lightweight ~3500 lb turbocharged 2.0L drift king model. Who needs a Silvia or TruneoBT8728dGH anyway?

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Can't you just hear the conversations about something like those backup lights at GM.

They most likely didn't want to mess up those nice tailights so they took the easy way out.

I hate it when GM does that.

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that thing needs tuxedo black z28 stripes like a pimp needs a hooker hehe

That looks a lot better.

I agree with Harley though, the reverse lights are stupid...why not have just integrated them into 2 of the brake lights? It clutters up the butt. Minor complaints though.

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I like everything about this car.

Only one minor complaint...the rear backup lights seem like an afterthought. Such a dynamic design with silly little lights stuck in the middle of nowhere.

hehe kinda reminds me of the 68 vettes rear view

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maybe they'll jump ship and incorp them into the tail lights like the vette in 69

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not actually copy mind you just be wise enough to see they need to move like they did then.

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My take:

GM should offer an ALL aluminum Camaro "ZLX" or something like that,...

that would be a great way of addressing the weight issues. :D

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On August 6th CNBC will air a documentary about the 5th Generation Camaro, according to this link on Camaro5's website (which also includes a short preview video about the documentary): http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5193

For MORE pictures of the Camaro RS, including a silver RS, click here.

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Kind of anti-climatic if you ask me, it's not like you didn't know what it was going to look like. Whats with that ribbing right behind the door anyway? That's a 1st gen Firebird trait.

Not anti-climatic for many who kept saying they would never keep it close to the original show car. I recall when the first pictures came out many said it was all wrong.

The ribs are all Chevy as the Bird was more notched and higher up.

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I remember when the concept debuted all the rags said it looked nowhere near production ready,a nd that it would be dumbed down significantly for production, guess the real enthusiasts at GM showed them, and kept it very close to the concept. My only minor complaint is I wish it had a slightly longer rear overhang, but that's it.

Also, someone needs to offer 22" / 21" replica wheels of the concept. They may not be good for ride anf handling but damn they look cool still.

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Looks about as close to the concept as the production Challenger does to it's concept. Good to see both Chrysler and GM staying true to a vision for once. However when comparing the production Camaro to the concept, I'm left feeling like it somehow became short and stubby from the profile, where the concept look slong and sleek. But overall I think they nailed it and didn't water it down much, if at all.

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Thanks for the comparison shots, DF. In the profile shot, if the background were dark in the production photo like the concept's, I think it would flatter the production car more. Not enough contrast to arrest your eye and keep it on the car, imo. This is one sweet car. I want to see a photo of every color. I wonder what the final production color palette is? The new-for-'09 Aqua Blue on the Colorado and HHR would look great on this, imo. I really like the satin metal trim across the dash and into the door trims... sweeping. I hope there is an interesting selection of interior colors, too, although I'd settle for black. Edited by ocnblu
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EPA estimates for the V-6 are 18/27 and for the V-8 are 15/23. The V-6 can possibly get below 6sec (considering CTS which is about the same weight and has the same 6-pot breaks this barrier). The V-6 gets LSD standard, and other than huge Brembos of the SS there is nothing in the SS - save the V-8 mill - that cannot be had on the RS V-6 package, it even includes the 20 inchers. My guess is they will have this decked V-6 for about $28-29K. That is a very good deal. Considering how fabulously Zeta handles, I think a V-6 Camaro is worth consideration as brand new and then get a used SS down the lane.

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EPA estimates for the V-6 are 18/27 and for the V-8 are 15/23. The V-6 can possibly get below 6sec (considering CTS which is about the same weight and has the same 6-pot breaks this barrier). The V-6 gets LSD standard, and other than huge Brembos of the SS there is nothing in the SS - save the V-8 mill - that cannot be had on the RS V-6 package, it even includes the 20 inchers. My guess is they will have this decked V-6 for about $28-29K. That is a very good deal. Considering how fabulously Zeta handles, I think a V-6 Camaro is worth consideration as brand new and then get a used SS down the lane.

This car is lighter than a CTS So the performance numbers should be much better.

Also none of this is a real Suprise as Settlmire has said time and time again that the V6 car was the focus. This is not your usual base car nore was it ever intended to be such. This was all planned long before the high gas prices came in and it is a good thing they did as this may save the program in the long run and provide s few more years of this car as is vs if it had just been a V8 focused car as the past gen was.

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This car is lighter than a CTS So the performance numbers should be much better.

Also none of this is a real Suprise as Settlmire has said time and time again that the V6 car was the focus. This is not your usual base car nore was it ever intended to be such. This was all planned long before the high gas prices came in and it is a good thing they did as this may save the program in the long run and provide s few more years of this car as is vs if it had just been a V8 focused car as the past gen was.

Yes it is supposedly lighter by about 100lb. Most magazines got 5.7-5.8 in the CTS, this car can drop another 10th off. I was being conservative in my estimate and comparing the Camaro with the CTS.

I am glad they focused on the V-6, because it is the mill that will garner them sales in the Old Nations and other parts of the globe. Although there has been no mention about the FE3 making it in the RS package, I hope it does, FE2 can be more than capable for road carving. I honestly think save the 0-60 and 1/4 mile performance which will not be shabby at all V-6, would be the way to go if you need a good RWD, with good fuel economy, decent performance, and less taxing on insurance.

Kudos GM for a good base model.

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I wonder how much Camaro can be had for $25K. :scratchchin:

My guess is possibly a V-6 LS with little bit more goodies. Like I mentioned earlier, all Camaros come with LSD, non-symmetric rear stabilizer bars standard to prevent bunny hopping. LS will come with 18" and will be pretty heavy on options. Of course that does not include price gouging. :P

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They didn't. From what I've heard, development costs were rather paltry when compared to other vehicle programs.

Really that suprises me because there was alot of design in the exterior/interior. As for the platform and powertrain there wasn't nearly as much. Lets just hope they actually market this thing RIGHT!

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They didn't. From what I've heard, development costs were rather paltry when compared to other vehicle programs.

Really that suprises me because there was alot of design in the exterior/interior. As for the platform and powertrain there wasn't nearly as much. Lets just hope they actually market this thing RIGHT!

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Dagnabit, red and yellow are prolly my two least favourite colors on a car, and silver looks a bit washed out. Do we really have to wait until 4 o'clock tomorrow afternoon to see it in the whole spectrum of living color? :unitedstates:
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I wonder how much Camaro can be had for $25K. :scratchchin:

$4.00+ gallon gas makes me think I'd be happy as pigs in $hit

if I could spend $23,000 & buy a power option delete Camaro

with a 2.4 ecotech, wide-spread-gear 5-speed & highway

geared rear end for a killer combo of "MPG & cool factor" 5th

generation Camaro style.

[let the roasting begin]

Just remmeber I've owned dozens of V8s, so sellig out it's not.

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$4.00+ gallon gas makes me think I'd be happy as pigs in $hit

if I could spend $23,000 & buy a power option delete Camaro

with a 2.4 ecotech, wide-spread-gear 5-speed & highway

geared rear end for a killer combo of "MPG & cool factor" 5th

generation Camaro style.

[let the roasting begin]

Just remmeber I've owned dozens of V8s, so sellig out it's not.

dont forget to source some iron duke badges for it

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Really that suprises me because there was alot of design in the exterior/interior. As for the platform and powertrain there wasn't nearly as much.

That last bit is where GM saved the most money. Make no mistake, GM will make profit from the Camaro.

Lets just hope they actually market this thing RIGHT!

Indeed and they probably will.

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I love this car and cannot wait for the show tomorrow. I am really surprised at the number of people here that dislike the interior. I find it beautiful and for the love of GOD missing the corporate HVAC and Black Tie radio center stack! I feared that the bean counters would have stuffed the corporate parts bin crap down the Camaro teams throats and ruined a great design. I was in the Concept Camaro and can tell you that the radio and HVAC in that car were unusable - but beautiful! To see them brought to life in a usable package is wonderful. I could just hear the same people who HATE this interior raising hell if they had stuffed the Black Tie set-up in the production car. Glad to see some individuality showing up in the cars. Nothing worse for me that hopping in my Corvette and staring at the Cavalier stereo and trunk release button, Oldsmobile door handles, and Buick HVAC controller. It really ruins the car for me. Glad to see the same fate has NOT ruined my dream car, and cannot wait to see what the designers come up with on the next cars to come down the line.

Now I just have to decide between an RS V6 stick or wait for the Z28 Convertible that I always wanted. And the color choice is going to be a bitch!

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i like this car a lot and the v6 / 6sp would be my choice.

i don't like the interior, it looks cheap and i dislike the design also. seats in particular look cheap. why didn't they use the G8 seats?

i will reserve final judgement on the interior till i get in one.

car is heavy. new mustangs sell for 17k. i dont think we'll see any camaros close to that cheap.

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That last bit is where GM saved the most money. Make no mistake, GM will make profit from the Camaro.

Indeed and they probably will.

Well lets home the market it right. I think they will too, and I hope they can crank out 100K a year too. I bet 2/3 or them will be six cylinder models.

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I bet 2/3 or them will be six cylinder models.

Indeed sales of six-cylinder Camaro models will more than likely eclipse sales of the eight-cylinder Camaro models. I know the six-cylinder car will be what I will be buying, not only for fuel economy, but in terms of overall performance and feature value.

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