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Yeah this is good information. I thought the GXP was starting at 36K not 39K? Overall a pretty good review, but I was going to spend the money on a GT you might as well get the GXP seriously.

Croc I was the simply saying that I didn't have the link but we were talking about it on here. It is nearly a fact the next Corvette will be less powerful, and weigh less and I don't think that is a good thing. Given CAFE and the current things happening in the industry. I like the cars the way they are. Croc I did reason with you I said the next Vette would be lighter and less powerful. It is the way you went about it calling it the "Downer of Corvettes". Did I say that? I just said what I had heard about the next one. I don't take any sh*t from anyone. Sorry. Back to the Corvette.

Once again you sound like a total moron. It is a sign of the times that Pontiac is selling a compact car in the good ol' US of A but it is times like these when you do what you need too. If it helps get Pontiac's CAFE numbers up and ends up being a better looking Aveo 5 who the hell really cares? I for one don't, no is it a performance car certainly not but it is slightly sporty and serves a real function. I also agree a turbo GXP for Pontiac would be sweet as well. As for the G8 GXP it was a car that HAD to happen! You say the G3 will hurt Pontiacs image but then you say the G8 GXP won't do anything for it because their image so what is it? Offering a consumer choice is NEVER A BAD THING. If you believe the GXP won't sell then you are full of $h!, and if you believe it was a waste of money when the development literally cost nothing because it was done for Holden, it was a no brainer. It is going to cost 36K not 40K and I expect epa fuel economy to be around 14-15 city and 22-23 highway. Sounds pretty good to me and it will run on regular. This is a car that will boost there peformance image, generate showroom traffic along with the new Solstice Targa and build some more excitement in the brand. That can't hurt and with the products ranging from the G3 to Vibe to Torrent to the G8 GXP offering a car for everyone and there budget/needs is a good idea. I would love to see a Pontiac without any boring small 4 cylinder cars but that is what sells, the trick is to make them sporty and they are learning. The Solstice GXP is proof, along with the 2009.5 G6 Coupe with the 2.4L VVT and six speed automatic. So if you are so foolish to believe the G8 GXP will make no difference I disagree and I thought G8 sales were about 2,000 a month not 1,000. Go hump a damn Toyota. Have you ever seen an early 60's Tempest it was a boring old lady car, but then they did a GTO also so once again a wide range of products even if some are rebadges isn't a bad idea because a rebadge costs hardly anything and generates sales and hopefully revenue so someday we will see a very unique Pontiac like the 90's showed us. They don't have to be RWD to sell or be sporty either.

I do to a certain extent but how much weight they shave off and how much hp you drop can vary widely and have an huge effect on the car. I like the Corvette at the moderate weight it is at with its high power. Then again I am more of muscle guy over weight anyways, wonder why I dislike Lotus.

Croc we have all heard rumors about less power and a smaller V8 and also less weight. I say boo and that is why these Vettes will be worth so much. Link your own articles. I think it just proves all the things that are right with this C6.

Not really because you factor in the rebates and it is fine. And everyone knows you'll get a rebate. I said it isn't THAT overpriced. People act like it is 20K.

Not as overpriced as the folks let on. I am factoring rebates in when you buy one.

I don't mind the G3 I think of it as an Aveo with a good nose. Actually it isn't that overpriced all they need to do and offer a grand or two off and it is fine. Honestly it is alot better looking than the Yaris to be perfectly honest. The G8 GXP is honestly so hot, and I actually love it. And I thought the G8 GT was hot, if I got one for the extra four grand I would pop for the GXP that is a no brainer.

I'd caravan in Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade Hybrid big and comfortable. They almost always ride in Suburbans anyways.

And for the 2009.5 G6 Vert... As always enjoy...

I know it is before Christmas but pass it along to Santa that I would like a new G8 GXP! Anyways here are some more photos of the new G6 Vert, G8 GXP and the G3. *Which looks great in the Pontiac photos in silver, no kidding it makes the Yaris look down right gross!* G8 GXP First... G3

I like Caminos idea.

I would say the C6 will be very collector worthy because the C7 is shaping up to be not nearly as exciting. Plus in the 2008-20XX C6 you can get the largest V8 you could in a Vette for a long while the 6.2 in the Vert of 7.0 in Z06. The last few years of the C5's will prolly be worth something too in about 30 years tho.

Good idea. If this was on a Corvette or Camaro etc. it would be all over the news. Still the GT-R is a pretty cool car, but just give me a G8 GXP and a new Camaro SS instead.

I factor that in. They need contracts that work for both the worker and GM.

I said fair pay and no that isn't $12.00 but it isn't $70.00 an hour either.

The Aztek and Ion each were huge flops along with the Astra. The GTO really wasn't that poorly recieved and sales weren't that bad, nor are the G8 sales.

How fast will the price rise and how high will they go tho? I could see gas leveling out in the 2.50-3.50 area depending on where you live. Also people made sh*t out of Bush all the time and if you call him 'Bama I don't really have a problem with it. It is a two way street. :AH-HA_wink: Because he got in I won't be buying one of these anytime soon and that is a shame...>

I like Rick alot and look at what he has done at his time at GM. He has done alot of smart things, they need to file chapter 11 kick the Unions out the door and then hire them back WITH FAIR WAGES, then I would give the 25 billion to use wisely. I know everyone is hurting badly.

No you are right on. I know times will be tough but better to get it over with and have a GM that comes back better than ever before.

No you are right on. I know times will be tough but better to get it over with and have a GM that comes back better than ever before.

I think they meant TL and yes it would get its a$$ handed to it.

I do this sometimes and it is nice just not to get bothered. I just enjoy looking.

Exactly someone hit the nail on the head.

Well written piece for sure. I sort of agree, but I see what the Union has done to GM do I really want them having even more control over the company? I want a GM with no-union and fair wages to become profitable like what Honda/Toyota do in the USA pay people fair and get the Union out of GM. I do blame GM partically for giving in to those ol' UAW boys over the years, and look where we sit. I have faith in GM and the American Auto Industry we will come out of this. And now it is time to truly BUY AMERICAN.