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Yeah, I didn't see international sales but I think the Mustang was doing pretty well over in Europe but I don't know what kind of number defines "pretty well". I think the Mustang has been so iconic for ford that they would be willing to lose *some* money on it before actually calling it over.

That is wildly inaccurate... 346,048 Equinoxes vs 75,842 Mustangs. file:///C:/Users/capalupoc/Downloads/Deliveries Quarter 4 2019.pdf https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2019-us-muscle-car-sales-figures/

This was even back in 2016.

Ford and Lincoln are no longer(finally) just badge-jobs. Not long ago all Lincoln's were was a few small changes and they called it a day. Now, Lincoln gets their own treatment and share only underpinnings. I think it was a year or two ago they came out and said all of the switch-gear would be Lincoln-specific as well, so you really wouldn't see Ford when sitting in a Lincoln. I think that might have been when the current Navigator came out.

I don't think it is anything major but add in the cost of DEF. I think it's supposed to be roughly a full tank per oil change but I believe that can vary by quite a bit based on weather and driving.

Oh weird, I assumed the other order but I see how it is flipped..

The Traverse is the most surprising on the list, to me.

Yeah at those speeds and loaded up, it sounds very respectable, also including the climbs through mountain passes through thin air. Does that have the n/a 3.5 then?

@surreal1272 What kind of fuel economy did you get on that adventure? How quick/slow were you going(most of the trip, at least)? N/A 3.5?

Did you make that trip solo??? That's quite the drive to do on your own and 45 minutes of sleep says it!

It seems by 2022 there will be quite a few offerings across the board.. and like Drew said, by 2025 most lineups will be electrified.

I can almost GUARANTEE it would not be louder than an AMG because they can't sell them loud and you're talking about a family-sized SUV. So Yes, AMG has done this before with the ML63, GL63, and G63 and everything proceeding those. The X5M and Cayenne also probably makes some great V8 noises.

GT350R GT G63 AMG SLS AMG 911R

There have been AMG V8's in SUVs for a bit already and a long time in the G-Wagen. It wouldn't sound the same, but they both have a unique and gnarly sound.

Exactly my thinking, haha.

I know I'll screw up what's actually "the best".. I'll choose five of my favorites. I know it's kind of the same thing.. but not exactly.

Wow, first, that's really cool that's even available and second, holy shet that's expensive!

I'm still yet to see a GT in person...

Congrats on the new ride! I've grown more and more fond of the Flex. When it first came out I absolutely hated it's styling. It always felt awkward but, maybe with my change in lifestyle with age and home ownership, it grew on me to the point where I would have bought one had I been able to find one packaged the way I liked it.. refreshed and AWD but as @surreal1272 mentioned, it was ecoboost only(which I also would have wanted) and then the prices jump pretty quick. Oh and also after having Sync3, it would have had to have been a 2016+.. Not cheap ones. I almost never like dark blue vehicles with black wheels/accents but I think this looks great. Maybe I just love the blue that much or maybe it actually works but I'd love this one:

Dear Tesla, Wanna play those gimmicky games? Sincerely, Rivian

@dfelt, I could probably google the answer but I feel like you have the knowledge as well. Theoretically, if an EV Semi(or car/truck/SUV) were to wreck into a lake/river, I assume there is less cleanup as there's no diesel fuel to cleanup? The question though, other than for the battery cooling/heating system(which passenger vehicles also have cooling systems), is there any other contaminants to pollute the waters similarly like a diesel? This came up because(the above pic) and we locally had a semi crash into our lake(not sure how or why as I saw no trailer attached either, but that's besides the point) and it made me think if EV vehicles will also help in that regard.

That's a lot of charging stations in one location.

Those numbers are pretty damn fantastic. It's a shame it's a $4000 option.

Happy belated birthday, @surreal1272!

I completely agree.