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This is great news to try and keep the sedan alive but it feels like a slight miss without the V6.

It sounds like they are following Tesla's exact footprints... "Production will begin in 2020. Fully equipped vehicles with the highest performance level and largest battery pack will enter production first. Our 180 kWh and 135 kWh packs will be available at launch with the 105 kWh to follow in 2021."

Tesla will immediately generate more noise because...they're established.

I think Rivian is the one trying to steal mojo, not the other way around. Tesla has a foothold in the industry. Rivian hasn't sold a single production-grade/registerable vehicle yet.

What two mid-size sedans can you NOT pull design cues from and say they look similar? Everything has the same general shape. The Camry might be the lone shark that's pretty unique and hasn't gained the "coupe" body style. Those genuinely do not look very similar outside of general shape. One has a bumper out front, the other has the grille, the lights are placed differently and shaped differently, the side "vents" are shaped completely different(one is more horizontal rectangle and the other is vertical and "pointier"). One mirror is on a door, the other on the body.

It looks pretty sharp, IMO.

I think there is a happy medium between 6 years and 72 years.

Oh I don't think it is sustainable at all. Once people start to default on these 84/96 month loans and sales start to drop, because it feels inevitable, they'll be forced to extend model years. We could only hope that prices would hold steady for some time as well in doing that.

Agreed. I firmly believe this is a big reason prices have jumped so high in the last 15 years or so. They are amortizing the billions of investment over only a handful of years instead of a decade and they need to recoup ASAP because of it.

Now THIS saddens me.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2015-volkswagen-e-golf-sel-premium-one-year-review/

That's much improved from the original 70-90 miles or range quoted by VW. It would take ten or more years to pay itself off, even getting the full $7500 tax credit. God forbid you don't. " "The EPA reckons the cost of electricity at 13 cents per kWh. So a full charge on the 24.2-kWh battery is $3.15 and gets you 83 [miles of driving range]. The cost per mile is thus 3.8 cents. If you take a Jetta that gets 33 mpg combined and the EPA's cost of $2.01 for regular gasoline, then that comes to 6.1 cents per mile." Gas prices these days are higher in many places, which would increase savings, but for me VW's formula worked out to $569.94 in electricity for my year in an e-Golf versus the $913.30 I would have paid for gas in a comparable car." *That was at 14,972 miles in one year.*

The e-Golf is a joke.. it's a compliance car like the Focus Electric was.. This makes be really wonder what Ford's new Mach-E will be priced at. I think I'd heard like 340 miles of range..? Rumor is 40k... but that seems optimistic or a very basic trim with a smaller battery.

Example?

What is one that is pretty clear, to you? I definitely do not see it in you guys, but I'm not the one questioning writers.

You're one of the writers/editors as well. Should we question you based on how they treat you and what they make available to you? Nah, I have faith you write honestly.

Small little Ferrari... finding budget room for $570,000,000. https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2018/04/15/ferrari-570-million-f1-budget-revealed/#46c043b27fa5

I call bullsh!t on anybody saying magazines are biased toward sponsorship. Maybe I'm ignorant but I believe there are too many writers/editors who have enough pride and respect in their work to just write something they don't believe in.

Not in the slightest.

...Mercedes also had a 6.2 and it was as glorious as they come.

GT-R and 370Z are fine but I'd never spend the money on them when there are other options that are way better all around for the same or very similar dollars. Also, I'm not a V6 fan so neither really sound like I want a toy to sound.

+1 +1 +1 Yup. You'll get thrown into anything when you have an open opinion. There are only a few brands that I don't have an open opinion on and the biggest is Nissan. They're all garbage and it'll be difficult to change my mind about them.

I cannot dispute that point of view. However, it doesn't seem like an unjust law, to me.

It's easy to do when you don't follow laws.

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