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Admittedly, it isn't as bad as the CLG Coupe, GLE Coupe, X4, or X6 but the whole lifted coupe thing is just asking for awkwardness and they all get it.If they keep the roofline up where it is, it'll be okay in my books. if they bring it down like they do on the others I listed, it'll look like total hell.

That's because you can't see the ugly part, the rear 2/3 of the vehicle.

Is it a coupe crossover? Hate it.

Crossover Coupe.. The absolute WORST segment ever created. I hate these so much. I'm a pretty big Mercedes fan but I will never vouch for a GLC Coupe or GLE Coupe. Did somebody say Envoy XUV?

Do you wish you could blow up the XTS and replace it with a CTS?

Chevy needed this so bad on this car. It looked like such a freakin mess before. The small changes made a world of a difference.

FCK, I love extra butter!

AMG doesn't offer a manual transmission.. I'd hold off on the public having a pulse quite yet. Looking at those numbers... everything is a weak spot. The only vehicles that weren't down were vehicles that only sell hundreds a month anyway.

@smk4565 - Just letting you know where the big sales drops can be found.

At an average transaction price of $30,000 that's $1,200,000,000 in revenue. That's a lot of cash.

And I'd wager that they have three SUVs that are faster around it than their "halo" SUV.

"or fuel-cell" ? That's interesting to hear. I think that part will be overlooked.

If they made something smaller that was more luxurious and more powerful I can already hear you cry that they should have done it with the largest vehicle.

I think that's what Cadillac and Lincoln should go after. Use their old school heritage to their advantage and don't try and copy what others are doing. Make over-sized luxury barges(per dollar). How much bigger do you want them to go? It already dwarfs everything that isn't a dually heavy duty truck on the road(and Expedition/Navigator).

That is not accurate. https://cleantechnica.com/2018/11/04/8-european-countries-their-ev-policies/

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the newest one.. Pretty sad because they truly created this segment and now it looks worse than the Audi 7 and BMW 6.

LOL So. Damn. True.

It doesn't do it for me like the CLS has. The only other one to pull it off, IMO, is the Audi 7's. Completely agree. I actually just looked at Autotrader for them to see what they cost and you're still spending the better part of 20k for a pretty high mileage German car.. Not a situation I would like to be in for that amount of cash.

There aren't a whole lot of vehicles where I prefer the older generations but the CLS looks best in its first generation, then second and the newest seems to be less CLS-like to me. ..I think there are only three generations..lol I don't know a whole lot about the technical stuff but I would assume they lowered and fattened the torque curve as well along with reduced lag. It's probably a blast to daily drive with those numbers.

This is how you do the coupe styling on a sedan.

When you look at "cars" what is listed there? It isn't the Bolt either.. You just two keep reinforcing that this is a mix match of neither true car nor CUV... I'm interested to see this thing with the 3.0TT. Nearly diesel-like hp/tq ratio.

YES. It has that coupe-like look to it but the proportions are just slightly off on the rear.

That color is amazing. I've been into dark "colors" a lot lately. Dark reds/blues/greens are towards the top of my lists right now.

That has nothing to do with it being a car vs CUV. I think there being this kind of debate over it being a car or a CUV is EXACTLY what the rest of us have been saying. It's styling is of a hybrid car/cuv. It's ugly for that reason, imo. It doesn't look car enough to be a car and it doesn't look CUV enough to be a CUV. It's just an ugly middle ground.