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It is overused but an Alpha chassis sedan is pretty much the definition of a sport sedan.

I've been on board with a lot of what Hyundai has done recently but I do not like the grille on this along with those grey lower front fascia inserts. I also am not a fan of whatever situation is going on inside the headlight housing. The rear looks really sharp, the interior looks "okay". That 1990's shifter area looks pretty rough but other than that it looks class competitive. I also really like the piping on the seats.

Yep. Be Lincoln. Don't try and be anybody else. They're known for big and luxurious.

Agreed. I think they should keep two cars around and have them both large. I'd step up the Continental to something even larger like the original continentals were, HUGE. Make it S- Class-sized. Then make the MKZ even larger but not quite as large as the current Continental, for obvious spacing/pricing reasons. Obviously, this is easy so say knowing nothing about the platforms' flexibility. Maybe a 3rd car.. Mustang variant.. Or the big Conti with a Mustang variant for only two cars.

Ahh here it is. Lincoln Zephyr

I heard something about this just the other day. I'll have to find it.. That is, if it isn't canceled because the Fusion is canceled.

Pretty much., If it isn't one of the higher trims, there SHOULD be about 8-12k off, easily.

Ohhhhh okay, I forgot it was new in 2015 and refreshed in 2019. For some reason I was thinking this refresh was all-new. Thanks! Yeah, I screwed that up. Thanks!

In 2018, Chevy sold 7,572 more Vettes than CTS, fwiw. So you're really going to try and say the CTS/CT5 is not a sport sedan outside of V trim?

The difference is one is legitimately quick and can be enjoyed more so as a sports sedan with its base engine and the other much less so. That's a significant difference.

For obvious reasons, I'm a pretty big fan of this. The slightly larger footprint and space would be welcoming. I haven't come across needing additional space yet but I know there will be a time. I like the integrated infotainment screen on the current gen more but that's about it. Everything else looks pretty awesome. Plus, that blue/teal leather looks freakin' hot. I don't think there has been a new vehicle in which you did not say the dash was dated. Probably a bit of time as the Edge was all new for 2019, right? It did already get the new body panels to look like the Continental, Navigator, Aviator, and Corsair/MKC(MKC got a facelift last year to the new styling).

Great write-up. I was in the back seat of the last gen F150 and couldn't believe how large the back seats were then. I assume the current gen of all of them is even larger, which is nuts. I think this engine is getting a little sh!t just because of its size just like the original 3.5EB did. I think it will be just fine and specs-wise, it's positioned well above where V8 truck engines were not all that long ago.. 15 years? 2004 6.0 made 300hp/360tq. That was the top engine. This is supposedly a replacement for the BASE engine. Other than the chrome bumper, that pictured truck looks pretty good. The Silverado styling has grown on me. While I don't think it looks as good as a '19 Ram or F150, it no longer looks quite like the dumpster fire that it originally did to me. This MSRP'd for 48k, what were they actually selling it for? I have to believe it was 40k, give or take.

This engine needs to be spread out ASAP. I think it would do great in everything you listed. What review was that? Do you have a link? i have a buddy who might be looking at a new Trail Boss crew cab but it has the 4.3(seems like an odd combo) but he's a little hesitant because of how poorly rated the 4.3 is. I think on the dealer's website they stated like 14/18.. I thought it was better than that but I didn't look into it at the time. It seems like a great price as long as you're okay with the 4.3. https://www.elcochevrolet.com/VehicleDetails/new-2019-Chevrolet-Silverado_1500-Crew_Cab_Short_Box_4_Wheel_Drive_Custom_Trail_Boss-Ballwin-MO/3383594903

700 torque is a lot of torque.

"over 275hp" doesn't sound like anything impressive..

420hp! That's one little rocket of a car. https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/new-york-auto-show/a27192602/2020-mercedes-amg-a45-engine-most-powerful-four-cylinder/

Almost everything is a coupe-style car now. That's what the CT5 is, Accord,...

XC40 is a damn good looking vehicle. Volvo has been knocking everything out of the park looks-wise recently.

FWIW, I believe the 2.3 AWD MKC's are 4000-4100lbs. They're not too light. I think Ford said the Escape was losing something like 150-200lbs.

Motor Trend won't allow me to save images in a format that I can upload but scroll through the pictures and find the blue/teal leather interior. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-lincoln-corsair-first-look-mkc-replacement/ Edit: I should have just read through the whole thread first.. lol Thanks @dfelt! It's also a nice separation from Ford for those who don't really care about the cool-factor.

I’m just speaking of the color. I love seeing colored leathers!

He will link the one video of an Escalade off-road...

And nobody takes Escalades off road, should they get rid of the low range transfer case? That's not how luxury items work..

It's odd that the power figures are tweaked form the current 2.3. Current: 285/305 New: 280/310 More torque, more happy.

Ehhhhh.. I don't dislike the CT5's interior at all but I think that A6 just looks really fancy. I don't see it working the best as it looks like way too much touch-ness to work everything but I think it looks great.