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I'm not surprised. Toyota phoned that one in. The brand new Taco?

Well, I was bored and listened to a few Rangers with a few different setups( 4 banger/Flowmaster, 4 banger/Magnaflow, 3.0/Flowmaster, 3.0/Magnaflow) and I thought the best was the magnaflow regardless of engine. None sound particular good to me but I think that's because 95% of 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder engines don't sound good to begin with, IMO.

What size engine do you have in your Ranger? Are we working with a 4 or 6 banger?

I agree Hyper. I just wanted to clarify mostly that that number wasn't directed at VW alone. And I also completely agree that those 6%/11k of lung cancer patients probably have other issues contributing that cannot tie down diesel 100% to the cause. Buuuut if they had been tied directly to diesel(which I highly doubt could even be done, like you said) it could be in part to old diesels never had these stringent restrictions like they do today. And I would wager good money that those who they are counting in those 6% are people around construction, mining, etc equipment all their lives which don't have any restrictions, that I know of. So those do probably put out 95% of the total smog from diesels. Just an guestimate on my part though.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance/2015_motor_trend_best_drivers_car/ I won't ruin or spoil anything for anybody. I'll just give you guys a list of the cars and you can read it from there. Edit: Come to think of it.. once you click on the link they are placed in order so I might as well just put that here as well. DNF: Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 1.38.60 9th: Volkswagen Golf R 1.46.95 8th: Lexus RC F 1.43.20 7th: Cadillac ATS-V 1.40.18 6th: Cadillac CTS-V 1.38.52 5th: Bentley Continental GT3-R 1.43.51 4th: Mercedes-AMG C63 S 1.40.50 3rd: Mazda MX-5 1.50.68 2nd: Porsche Cayman GT4 1.37.43 1st: Mercedes-AMG GT S 1.35.57

I agree with what Drew has posted here and I believe most of us all agree this is about corporate greed. 11 million auto's with a $329.00 savings equals $3,619,000,000 savings 3.6 billion folks. This then ended up in the Fired CEO getting a 41% pay raise in 2013 at that time. http://www.autospies.com/news/VW-CEO-Receives-41-Pay-Raise-62299/ His pay was $12 million in 2011, doubled in 2012 to $23 million and then again 41% raise in 2013. http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.php?2241-VW-group-has-record-year-so-VW-CEO-doubles-his-salary-to-23-million So yea this is about Corporate Greed and the US as well as other countries should follow Germany in forcing them to have a plan or ban their Diesels from the road and from being able to be sold. Banning them from our roads will leave a seriously NASTY taste in nearly everybody who ones one of these. If they get banned from driving their VW do you think any of them will walk back into a VW dealer? I know I wouldn't. Screw that. Too many other companies making very high quality products to go back to a company who just left me stranded with a worthless pile in my driveway.

GREAT find! This is exactly what I wanted to come out. The real money side of things.

Good job to all three from Detroit. Go 'Merica.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/2013/11/diesel-lung-cancer-deaths/ This was the link I was refering to. I believe my prior post's assesment of it wasn't very accurate..sloppy memory..

The lack of a base truck may be due to pricing. This is not a cheap engine anymore due to government regs. I suspect they are holding back on engine price some and adding options to spread out the areas to recoup the profits. I would hate to see how much this thing would cost with no options vs. the gas model. I bet there would be a big gulf in price. Our government has taken a Diesel and made it so difficult to price any more with regulations that it has almost priced the engine out of existence. Even Europe with their tight laws are easier but I suspect the Green Party will make a move to work to kill these engines. It really is a shame. I just love how the news people are going around saying VW may have killed 11,000 people? They leave out many who are effected are often people who smoked themselves into repertory issues too. Lets face it we are not finding bodies in the street and the fact is even with the failing reading the VW engine is cleaner than any Diesel in the last 100 years. To really get ill from these engines you generally have to have a contributing illness or you live upstairs over a truck stop. We are not talking black lung here. If anyone was to die from lung/Diesel issues it would be heavy equipment operators who sit behind a stack, Farmers and or truck drivers. One really needs to keep this in perspective as the media like in other cases fails to report all the info. 11K deaths garners more attention than if you really break it down. I'll defend what that 11,000 people may have come from. I posted a link saying the NOx(correct that if it is wrong.. whatever it is that is harmful from diesels) kills 11,000 people per year. It didn't say anything specific about VW or any one manufacturer just that diesel exhaust IS harmful(if not treated correctly). I'll try and find where I posted it so you can read it. It definitely was not vehicle or manufacturer specific. In all honesty it is coming from all of the HD vehicles out there whether semi trucks or construction equipment. But, the VW's were supposedly clean and they were not that.. I think that is where some of this discrepancy has come from. I bet a couple of Directors of Powertrains got visits from brass lately asking them to dust off those old HCCI plans they had back in 08. I thought either Hyundai or Kia still have an active program around this. I read about it not too long ago.

The more I read on the Model X the more I like it. It does some amazing things.

Sounds like one massive disappointment for anybody with 100k. They better hope nobody who has 100k disposable reads this review because I know it won't make me buy the car. I'd rather buy a GT and do what I want with it myself, have it tuned by who I choose, and pick all of the parts myself. Sorry Shelby, but you guys either shouldn't have sent an unfinished car or made a mistake. I REALLY wanted them to be able to dyno the car with everything they said.. " (Schedule conflicts kept us from dynoing the car during its time with us.)"

Whoa ...go on...

I think all they need by the 7th is a plan though, to make sure things are heading in the correct direction. But I agree with everything you said.

If you're thinking that route it should be the same number of +1.

It sucks they are kind of stuck in the middle of this but it is expected after what VW was pulling over them.

I've already been seeing web ads for attorneys these past few days. Actually, so have I.

The system or people?

^ Absolutely

Honestly.. I thought it was just a clever way of saying you are sick of the guys who came over from MT. ..maybe it still is..

Hahahaha ..I also didn't know they sold things other than subscriptions..

Times-a ticking... They better figure something out.

"The German government has given VW until October 7 to present a viable solution to the "cheat code" diesel cars, or else the company's 2.8 million affected cars are banned from driving on German roads. Germany is coming down hard on its biggest carmaker over the diesel-emissions crisis, giving Volkswagen just over a week to come up with a fix to a problem eight years in the making. Yesterday, VW received a letter from Germany's Federal Motor Transport Authority, signed by transport minister Alexander Dobrindt, demanding that it deliver a binding plan and schedule to fix the 11 million "cheat code" diesel cars by October 7. Advertisement - Continue Reading Below If Volkswagen can't present a viable solution by then, according to Dobrindt, the German government would have no choice but to ban the 2.8 million affected cars from driving on that country's roads. Switzerland has already banned affected cars from being sold, new or used, and other countries continue to investigate their options; the U.S. arm of VW issued a stop-sale order on new diesel VWs last week. ..." Now THAT is a headline if you ask me.

Money, Money is always the reason why.

Hahaha Ouchy! Part of me feels bad about it, part of me thinks "sneaky, I like the attempt", and part of me things they are just absolutely retarded and deserve every punishment that comes their way.