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Aaaaaaand you just ruined it for me. lol

^ The chime..because like you said it is probably one of the easiest things to change..should just be programable. Make 5-10 little options. I cna't imagine that actually costing them much more at all and it can be a little "check this out" feature to your friends/family.

Fanastic 4 game sweep for my RedBirds over the Arizona D-Backs. That was much needed after losing 2 of 3 to..San Diego.. Both road series as well and the Diamondbacks are one of the best hitting teams statistically as well. We just ride the coattails of our pitching staff. Sub 3.00 team ERA.

You were both wrong, right? But you insulted him whilst also being wrong, right? Just checking.. :rolls eyes:

Good point(could not make out the vents) but that 7.3 second time is not from a 3.6L V6 CTS though. There is nothing in that video that indicates that it is a 3.6L. It also cements my point that the base model gauge, whether in a CTS or an ATS, is just cheap looking and does not belong in either car, much less a $53K CTS. BUUUUUUURRRRNNNNNNN!!! (Kelso - That 70's Show) (I was hoping for something a little less drastic than an entire head on fire.. but I guess that is about all that is available..lol) Yeah, real big burn there. I was wrong and admitted it, which is more than can be said for some around here . Someone else certainly didn't know the difference when confronted on it. He just offered up weak excuses whereas Drew offered solid facts and proof, and I appreciate that from him. Easy there.. Just jokin around.. Don't have to be so...grumpy... all the time. You must not be much of a car guy if you can't tell the difference between a CTS and ATS dash! lol

That is pretty crappy that massive price difference.. what 13, 14k? Turns out to still be more afordable, but much less so upon further review.

Good point(could not make out the vents) but that 7.3 second time is not from a 3.6L V6 CTS though. There is nothing in that video that indicates that it is a 3.6L. It also cements my point that the base model gauge, whether in a CTS or an ATS, is just cheap looking and does not belong in either car, much less a $53K CTS. BUUUUUUURRRRNNNNNNN!!! (Kelso - That 70's Show) (I was hoping for something a little less drastic than an entire head on fire.. but I guess that is about all that is available..lol)

..Glad I live in America..As if at 50k I could afford it anyway lol.

Lol I understand what you mean and as a daily driver.. I would want the amenities. I guess my greatest fault is when I see these cars I think of my climate and how DDing these is very impractical therefore I see them as second cars..toys. And toys do not need nor would I want to fluff the car(a driver's car at that) up with a bunch of things. So for meeee I see the base GT then the near or all of 20k jump to the gt350 as a massive jump as opposed to the daily drive able 40ish grand SS or GT up to the gt350 in raw form. While you gain performance.. You lose the amenities. So 45k loaded GT or SS vs 50k GT350 isn't really a fair comparison as the GT and SS will have all the amenities of a good tourer/daily driver.

C32 is the supercharged v6 model right? And the C55 is the n/a v8 one?

Eh to each their own. I'm not offended. You weren't a fan of the 03-04 Mach 1s or Cobras though?!?!? The w205, like all of the newest generatinos of Merc cars, look gorgeous in coupe form. Whatever they did with them they all look great in coupe guise. Not bad at all in sedan form but like the S Class coupe.. friggin gorgeous car! Then they get scaled back from there.. like the new C Class coupe that just got revealed. Very pretty car but still doesn't hold a candle to the S Class Coupe.

Hahaha thanks man, and that was actually exactly what i did. Sold the C350 and bought my Mach 1. That generation that I bought is "okay" at best in all honestly in the exterior looks department. The interior was very high qulity surprisingly. The interior out shined the exterior in quality and looks by a long shot, imo. The engineering under the hood and body was top notch for its time though. The 3.5L v6 put out 268hp/258tq and had one of the first "lots-a-gears" transmissions with a 7spd. That car could scoot actually. It was quite impressive for a smaller v6 car that doesn't look like anything special. Do you hate all generations of C Class? or just the W203 generation? I like what you have pictured..then kind of my generation, but I do like the most modern stuff a lot.Not in a sporty way but in a classy/luxurious way. I see them as more luxury and less sport and BMW more sport and less luxury. I think I have ONE picture of my first mustang on my old phone.. I'll have to see if I can find it. Oh yeah, once I tinted those windows on the C350, I will never go without tinted windows ever again. I love the look and the functionality on summer days or hell..any sunny day.

That is probably my favorite model of the C-Class. They just got those right inside and out IMHO. It really has one of the best interiors I've ever been in(the following generation,'08+, was waaaaaay worse - plastic and bland). Leather everywhere and what wasn't leather was actual aluminum. Only plastic bits were the buttons and volume knob and I think the interior door handle was also plastic. But it was a really clean and simple design. It actually drove fantastic as well. Smooth, quiet, could get up an go when I asked it to, 7spd auto always had the right gear, good wheel:tire:wheel well ratio was great from the factory.

Until they see the rather large absence of options on that V6 Stang. Giving the consumer a CHOICE instead of a one shop bundle price, is always....ALWAYS better, assuming final price points with similar hardware, is similar. Where did we go wrong as car lovers, where some believe that not giving customers a choice, is somehow a good thing. I agree.. That is one of the few things that I HATE that Ford does. They have to sell everything in bundles. I understand why companies do this but I do not like it as a consumer.

That is exactly what I think of when I see those Chevy commercials. I was sitting watching tv with my dad the other week and we started talking about that and how it doesn't make sense for exactly the reason you brought up. Now if it were to be free to the original buyer and only the second, third, etc owners had to pay that would be another story and a great way to get people to buy your stuff new as well as opposed to people like me waiting two-four years and saving 15k off the original sticker. • 200 megabytes (enough to stream about six hours of music or use the Internet for 13 hours): $5 for OnStar subscribers; $10 for non-subscribers. • 1 GB: $15 for subscribers; $20 for non-subscribers. • 3 GB: $30 for subscribers and non-subscribers. • 5 GB: $50 for subscribers and non-subscribers GM also will offer one-time purchases of $5 a day (for subscribers) and $10 (non-subscribers) for 250 MB of use and $150 (subscribers) and $200 (non-subscribers) for a month of up to 10 GB. http://www.autonews.com/article/20140512/OEM06/140519987/gm-says-new-4g-lte-services-will-cost-$5-to-$50-a-month

That is exactly my point. They aren't pony cars anymore because they made them unaffordable to the average Joe. Simple, big motor, fairly raw, car...that isn't what they are anymore. That is why I loved my Mach 1 so much. Yeah it had the solid rear axle and got real sketchy feeling over slightly crappy roads..but that is what these cars used to be. Big engine, big burnouts, loud noises. And it sucks..

Okay I kind of messed up the last post picture-wise..

I found some pictures of my C350 when I had her. First pic everything is factory. Then I changed the grill and hood emblem and had it tinted 20% all the way around. And the last picture of the 700+ miles was one day of driving where I intended to buy a Mach 1 in Iowa and the dealer straight up lied about the condition and it being all bone stock. It had exhaust and rock chips EVERYWHERE. like, even rear deck lid kind of everywhere. Then I ended up buying the Mach 1 that I did from Kentucky. In fantastic condition. Oh and just a couple that I thought looked cool. One next to my gf's G and another near a Raptor at my gym.

I dunno : the factory buy-back & crushing of like 6 years of Tacoma production is tough to forget. I don't recall.. Got some deets on it? (I honestly never really looked much into Tacomas till about a year and a half ago when my dad was truck shopping so forgive my ignorance) Either way, understandable. Everything hits everybody in a different way, rubs them the wrong way..

^ Agreed. And Frisky: I like how you looked at that and I can't agree more. The price hike..is just too much.. I've said it before and I understand 1, 2 grand, even 2500. but 4100 is a big gap.

Ford still shows the GT350 as having a V9 on their website. Correction, Only the GT350R has the V9.

Until they see the rather large absence of options on that V6 Stang. The V6 Mustang is the complete opposite end of what I'm complaining about with the 1SS. One doesn't allow you any options(or hardly any) and the other forces options on you. Both frustrating, imo.

I saw my first Chevy SS yesterday.. sadly it was in my rear view mirror so I couldn't get a good look at it. That is one underrated/underappreciated car.

It isn't about how many of us(small sample size) that buy base SS's and GT's but for those who DO buy them. As auto enthusiasts we tend to spend a little more on our vehicles than most would anyway so using members of an auto forum is quite the biased "results". Not everybody is going to want to spend te extra 4k for things like leather and all the cool techno doo-dads. The package is cool and awesome that they made but I think they should have offered a lesser trim as well. If it is for CAFE, I understand that more than to give the options that "most" got on the previous model. I think that is kind of a bull$h! reasoning because you could go down the line for every car produced and add the options that "most" buy and completely change the pricing game. Think "most" Chevy Cruzes are bought with an automoatic tansmission? Why offer a manual at all then? "Most" trucks never need/use 4wd, should they all get rid of that too? It's all about the options and giving people options. Saying "most" order this or that isn't justification.

It's even better when you are behind the wheel. I couldn't imagine having 707hp at my disposal. It's gotta be such a rush. I mean in town or even up to 60mph where it'll just light them up is super gnarly n all but I couldn't imagine being in a vehicle that size at 100mph and having it still pull like a son of a bitch. HA me too! Minus the Tacoma.. That has some real staying power/equity in its name. It's earned it.. imo.