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And the fact that they “don’t care” only highlights the general buying ignorance of your average Mercedes/BMW/Audi buyer.
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Hilarious. A Benz fan talking smack about others in regards to depreciation. Not even going to go there because that horse has been beat to death but we all know the truth about Benz depreciation.
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And? Those year Odyssey’s are what I’m mainly referring to. Those years are on every used car avoid list out there so if your dad’s did great, then he is in the minority. Feel free look up the many issues with those.
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Like I said, it’s just more domestic slamming bull$h! by him and he cant even admit he was wrong on all fronts.
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“Regardless of what the reviews say”. Do you hear yourself? You said two years at $20K and you were wrong. Even at three years, you are wrong. Kelly Blue Book has it above the Honda at 36 and 60 months and not being too far behind the Sienna. You are also attempting to compare an older model T&C, which isn’t made anymore, with a much newer and far better Pacifica, so your argument holds no water there either. The Pacifica is night and day better and the value shows for once. This is just another domestic slam by you. The funny thing here is that the Odyssey has a pretty shoddy history in the reliability department so you’re even in the loop on that either. Feel free to reference the many power train issues of the older models that have only recently been addressed.
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Really? A two year old plug in hybrid that is $47K will sell for $20K? Are you high? I want you to look here at what finished just below the Toyota and above the Honda minivan.
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Tesla Model 3 Lacks FM Radio and Bluetooth Streaming
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^^This! And you better believe that if this were a GM or Ford issue, there would be some interesting rebuttals from the peanut gallery.- 21 replies
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Industry News: Dyson Plans An Electric Vehicle
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Only have personal experience with the Satun lol.- 31 replies
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Tesla Model 3 Lacks FM Radio and Bluetooth Streaming
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It’ll give new meaning to the term “blue screen of death”.- 21 replies
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Tesla Model 3 Lacks FM Radio and Bluetooth Streaming
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Still waiting on the real “pros” of this car. So much to love about the Model S and so much to loathe about the 3 and it keeps getting more loathesome.- 21 replies
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Industry News: Dyson Plans An Electric Vehicle
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You missed the obvious sarcasm and they are worth $4.5 Billion which is a few billion more than Elon Musk started with.- 31 replies
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Industry News: Dyson Plans An Electric Vehicle
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And I’m sure they are not aware of that at all, being a billion dollar company and all. Good thing you let them know lol!- 31 replies
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Industry News: Dyson Plans An Electric Vehicle
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Umm, going to disagree with that unless you love things that squeak nonstop after only six months. My sister had three different ones and the squeaking drove her nuts. Great concept, horrible execution.- 31 replies
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“Unlike our vacuums, our cars don’t suck but like our vacuums, they are made with cheap plastics.”- 31 replies
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So many puns about sucking (or not losing suction), so little time.- 31 replies
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Industry News: California Mulls Ban On Combustion Engines
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Which only lends credence to the fact that states like Minnesota need to use different and cleaner forms of energy to produce said power. Arizona’s solar industry has grown every year and will continue to do so, lending a perfect match to charging up those EVs.- 80 replies
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Show me one person using a heavy duty truck for off road fun and why it has jack to do with what’s being talked about here.
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Please read what I’m actually saying instead of converting it into some kind of kind winded explanation of something I am not talking about. I have no problem with what the optioned our models will cost. That’s the car business. What I am saying is that it will not start at $35K. Nothing less, nothing more.
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GTFO of here and stop trying to move the bar yet again. You used the F-150 as an example of milking tech. Well, I’m pretty sure that a lot of people want those (same for the millions of GM 3800s out there whether you like it or not). The F-150 averages 70,000 a MONTH while bringing huge profits and has changed their powertrains numerous times to go with the times, hence ditching V8s for turbo sixes, just like Benz has been doing. Those are little details that you failed to mention while trying to call them out. Oh and GM has more CUVs than any other manufacturer including Benz. More details you leave out while you move that bar around.
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Let me say this for you one more time. They will not start at $35K. Bank on it.
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There is a certain, yet typical, irony in your statements about the F-150 and the GM 3800 when Mercedes has been peddling a 40 year old G Wagon to any sucker who is naive enough to buy it. That is why your constant trolling about the domestic makers here is pure folly and utter bull$h!.
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And Tesla only makes the battery. Where the hell does SMK think all those other electrical components, like that giant tablet in the dash, comes from? The Tesla fairy? No. It comes from China.
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Where do you come up with these asinine comparison. That 2016 Envision you speak of was a damn near loaded model and they said, from the get go, that the lower trim model would be introduced later. The fact that was a little higher then a base Enclave is 100% irrelevant based on that simple fact. Hell, a CLA can sot quite a bit more than a Class, in certain trims so unless you really want to go there, you need to just come up with a better argument. Oh, and with a $40K+ price difference, one would expect a 3 to not cost anywhere near an S, so a little $3K difference in the first year Envison is not a big deal and not comparable to what we were discussing regarding the 3. Fact is that they have said that it will be $35K when it is looking more and more likely that it will start out higher than that. What do you not understand about that? And yet their ONE EV outsells all Benz EV models but I don’t hear talk of Tesla being able to take over them now do I? Everything you have spoken about GM and Ford is pure hyperbole and just pure hypothetical mumbo jumbo. You literally know not one damn thing about how they operate or plan to operate in the future. Man, your GM trolling is old, tiring, and just a simple load of BS.
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Except the 3 will not start at that price at all while the XT5 DOES start at $39K. That’s what they’ve been saying so big difference in your apples to oranges comparison. The 3 is also competing with a car that is $35K further making your XT5 reference completely irrelevant.
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Well since we don’t use imaginary crystal balls to assume profit on a yet to be produced product, all we have is the present and at present, Tesla has not made a profit. Also, like others have pointed out, this pretty much solidifies the fact that the 3 is going to be priced higher than originally advertised.