surreal1272

All carmakers borrow design cues from other brands, including Benz.

The Ford Flex had the same setup in certain trims. That was my favorite feature of it.

The ACA is a joke in clown shoes.

Exactly. If you're buying this for towing, then you bought the wrong truck. Same goes for the Raptor. Also, comparing a mid size trucks capabilities with a full size is just silly and pointless for more than obvious reasons.

No massive protest over Obama? Really? I'm no fan of the man but we had entire states threatening secession and five years of ignorant folks saying that he wasn't even born in this country, including our president elect. You are right on most of that post but let's not kid ourselves here. Republicans thumbed their noses at the man for eight years, obstructed every thing he tried to send through their halls and DC and then these same assclowns want to act like they did something for this country? Please.

Been had? Let's add in the fact that while he claims he is "draining the swamp", he is filling it back up with the same alligators that were in there before. Makes perfect sense (obvious sarcasm).

"John Adams said: "George Washington agreed, saying in his farewell presidential speech: Source:http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/the-founding-fathers-tried-to-warn-us-about-the-threat-from-a-two-party-system.html Go ahead and continue to belittle me because I don't believe as you do. I simply have history on my side. Now, back to football.

This and then some. It sucks not being able to vote in certain primaries but I can live with it as rarely do any of those candidates resonate with me and I really don't give two $h!s if certain people here don't get that and would rather insult and belittle people who don't believe as they do. It just reflects their true nature about life in general.

Well, since I was informed the other day that it is fair game for now, I'm going to continue. That's all I know. in short, if anyone has a problem with an independent voter, then maybe you should look in the mirror and then crack open a history book. There you will find that the founding fathers, that so many folks on both sides like to reference, detested the idea of a two party system and warned against it vehemently. That is a simple fact so think about that before saying that being an independent voter means never having to take responsibility because it is actually the ultimate responsibility by actually heeding their words instead of being a mindless lemming to one or the other party. This is all just my opinion, mind you, but I feel that it is at least an informed opinion. Now if you'll excuse, I'm going to get ready to watch a little football.

Umm, no.

IMO, what load of $h!. The point of being independent voter is that I'm not beholden to those two parties rigid ideologies. The two party is the fail of all failures in this country. Just one look at the elections over the last fifty years prove that. This "my way or the highway" mentality exbhitied by both parties (and evidenced by some their rabid followers) in this country is what is killing this country but the lemmings keep jumping off the cliff every four years, hoping for a different result when it's really just the same old bull$h! snake oil pitch. Again, what a crock of $h!. "Can't take the blame for anything"? You have to be kidding me. You clearly have no idea what it's like being an independent voter. Not one clue.

I always find it funny when both on both sides think that one party is the reason for everything bad with this country. Example, saying that Obama is the only reason for $h! sucking when you have to consider he had to deal with an obstructionist GOP congress. It's not even a debatable point. Another example, blaming Bush Jr. for economic mess when it was Carter and Clinton policies on housing and lending that set us up for disaster in the 2000s. Again, it's not even a debatable point. This is why I've been a registered independent since I was first eligible to vote 25 years ago. The Democrats and the Republicans have been taking a big fat dump on us for far too long.

No proof of lies? Really? Three things. Trump "University" Obama Birth certificate Central Park Five

Fair enough and I certainly understand it's a big deal right now to a lot of folks. Just tired of the same old disproven rhetoric by certain "factions" on both sides. That is all.

Just going to leave this right here and I'm done talking about idiotic politics. http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-kkk-trump-north-carolina-1478822255-htmlstory.html

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I am also sorry that your world literally got flipped around like it has. I can only imagine how big this is for you.

Certainty understandable @Drew Dowdell

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Defending Trump is like being okay with verbal diarrhea. Defending Clinton is like being okay with verbal constipation. BTW, they both suck. That is all because I'm with @dfelt here. Time to move on from this. We have four years to evaluate out new president.

I would up vote this a hundred times if I could.

I will say this about the election, now that it's over. All of these wild conspiracy theories about George Soros and voting machines from companies he doesn't even own, have been buried in the backyard with a shovel and a bag of Lyme, where they belong.

Or the Trump supporter who burned down a 100 year black church in Mississippi.

And their domestic inbred cousins are trying to do the same thing here. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/former-kkk-leader-david-duke-075823237.html

Very true but they will be cross shopped nonetheless.