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  1. surreal1272
    I would like to point out one huge factor that no one seems to be considering here and it's regarding the fuel itself. Which "fuel" is more price stable? Gas or electric? Electric rates go up maybe every year (depending on which state you live in of course but I am going by Duke Energy rates back east and SRP/APS in Arizona. Full disclaimer: my father was thirty year employee of Duke Energy). You at least know the long range price of electricity while gas can literally change prices within hours, depending on the crisis of the day. Fuel stability has to be considered here when trying to weigh out the pros and cons of electric vs. ICE.
  2. surreal1272
    @Wings4Life-It's called a simple opinion through observation over the last few months and continuing to see it on this thread. Knowing that, then it is clear that it is not just about what you are saying. Don't overdramatize it.
  3. surreal1272
    Except that they are comparing these numbers against a $100K Tesla when you have a 250 mile range/$37K Bolt to consider with Forbes numbers. Again, a lot of that data is severely cherry picked.
  4. surreal1272
    The Forbes article is also riddled with cherry picked data. Why would I compare a Tesla S against the average light duty truck, as Forbes is doing? Proper comparison would be to compare it against other cars in its class like the A8, 7 Series, and even the S Class. Just saying that data is horribly flawed.
  5. surreal1272
    Maybe because I wasn't talking directly about companies ignoring the technology. I am speaking of individuals just for clarification.
  6. surreal1272
    Now that you mention it, yes. We are woefully behind in the matters of mass transportation.
  7. surreal1272
    People who ignore new technology are destined to get left behind by that same technology when it becomes the defacto choice for the majority of folks.
  8. surreal1272
    Sorry but did you say that they DON'T need more range? Seriously? I'm just going to walk way away from that one.
  9. surreal1272
    All I know is this. The Bolt is the best EV deal out there right now and will lead to even longer ranges and better prices if it can succeed. Others will follow its success, which benefits the customers with lower prices via more competition. Last time I checked, that was a good thing for the consumer. Choice.
  10. surreal1272
    The prices are already coming down. Just compare range/price five years ago to range/price now. It's not a debatable point IMO. The prices are going down and the ranges are going up. It's pretty obvious where it's heading.
  11. surreal1272
    That doesn't change the fact that you are ignoring a lot of obvious evidence that EVs will become more and more prominent over the next decade and as the range increases, more and more people will see the advantages of EVs over ICE for everyday use. Examples have already been given as to why this is so.
  12. surreal1272
    This, because that is what I was getting at. For most Americans (especially in urban and large metro areas), a long range EV is going to be the defacto choice for daily driving. Mark my words.
  13. surreal1272
    And with 258 miles of range, most owners would not have to plug every night as he is trying to insulate here. For me, I could go two weeks and two more days before I'd even have to charge the Bolt. The argument is just null for most folks like myself.
  14. surreal1272
    I love how some folks think their ONE case scenario fits most when it is only certain that it fits them. Betting more people will find great uses for these cars regardless of the misinformation and discrediting being perpetrated by one person here. Bitch about the price all they want but it is a hell of a lot cheaper now than even five years ago to own a proper EV and it will get cheaper.
  15. surreal1272
    And double the price with the same ugly as a Prius. Oh and it runs on hydrogen power.
  16. surreal1272
    You missed the point there. I posted that to illustrate that the Bolt is a far better value than those others due to having a much larger EV range and it was built from the ground up as an EV and not a horribly modified compact car that was never intended for such use.
  17. surreal1272
    Only one of these has a range of more than 120 miles (and in fact double that range).
  18. surreal1272
    I live in the Phoenix area and the Bolt would be a perfect second car for my work commute. All the towns here, like Scottsdale, Glendale, Chandler, etc are so close together with tons of charging stations, that cars like the Bolt are practically a no brainer.
  19. surreal1272
    How is it that some people seem to be incapable of separating what suits them on the road with what suits everyone else? EVs with more than 200 miles range serve a great purpose for a lot of folks who do nothing but city driving and short to medium range trips. It is more common than some here understand and I have a feeling that the problem with the Bolt and others like it is that it doesn't come from the right maker. Just my opinion though.
  20. surreal1272
    Well it is a little bigger than the Scion so it makes sense.
  21. surreal1272
    Yeah Scion dropped the ball with the 2nd gen xB. It added to much weight and killed the look that made the first one a hit with the young crowd.
  22. surreal1272
    I can attest to that. Test drove one for my wife about a year ago and I actually liked it for the very reasons you mentioned. My wife still wants one to this day but alas, we have to wait for now.
  23. surreal1272
    A huge red herring for folks who don't do their research. Five years ago, this would be a legitimate gripe but the landscape has changed in just a short time. Folks hanging on to these old notions of range anxiety better catch up with the times or get left behind because this is where the industry is headed eventually.
  24. surreal1272
    It's like some people don't understand the pure convenience factor of a car like the Bolt. Oh and let's not forget to mention, no oil changes EVER.
  25. surreal1272
    That's the only VW I want.
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