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I think this should be enough engine to satisfy anyone. Maybe if Cadillac started an "E" Series to go with V.... like how BMW has M and i divisions... ...my god. JD just doesn't leave any room for Cadillac to do anything worthwhile because of the stupid logic of the comment he made. Now if they make a "CT6-E" it'll be like "oh... so it's like Porsche Mission E or Audi E-tron" See, this is exactly what I would want Cadillac to do, but they continue to set up their market strategy for differentiation in the marketplace as glutton for punishment. Then again... the Germans rip off of each other to compliment each other. But I don't see them saying if your follow you always follow so we won't follow, but the result of our strategy are products that still end up following. Because the brand is still catching up in the world, despite what anyone might say. Where it's ahead it's at the margins, the extremes of what people are salient to. I think it's pretty clear. Cadillac is doing awesome - making immense strides such as having the world's most advanced body structure, industry first through-view mirror... and JD has played no part in that at all...

Look... the guy also runs a company that sends stuff to space with better reliability and newer tech and made in america for a 1/3 of the cost of incumbents that lie about national security - they import the launch vehicle engines from Russia of all places.... I'm sure that the guy who fully is an engineer in any sense because of interactional expertise is not worried about his company in the long run. The whole mission of Tesla was to jump start (heheh) the electric car. Nowhere does that mean a future without Tesla but with electric cars being mainstream is a future that shouldn't exist. And also, electric cars are nothing in complexity to space. And some of the simplest brushless AC induction motors have as little as 7 moving parts. That's nothing compared to an internal combustion engine. Electric cars are fundamentally an extension of late 19th, early 20th century technology up to now. While ICE cars are an extension of the the age old heat engine - which includes ones that use external working fluids like steam from the late 18 to up till now technology. So... what does that mean? Simply put, people were able to, because of circumstances such as at the time perceptions of unlimited fossil fuels and of no concept of the consequences of environmental degradation - were easily able to tame the combustion of fuel and control it to get productive work out of it. I've mentioned before I don't like electric vehicles. It's only because they make no financial sense at the present moment. But the advancements being made right now are epic because there's the whole decades of catching up that's happening before us. Once electric cars become a stable technology, you probably won't see double the range and lower cost ever again. But by then there will be no reason to stick with the legacy of ICE vehicles. They are nearing extinction, one way or another.

Electric for the most part is vastly superior in almost everyway in terms of the total car. For example. The Tesla Model S is a great car. but it's built rather conventionally. Now imagine a Cadillac "CT6-E". Full electric, 400+ miles range and all the fancy Omega goodness. Too bad it's not gonna happen. Either we die or fossile fuels die. Or we die and we become future fossils for the next set of primates to fuel ape-man style global warming for the second time in earth history. Or we perfect global warming for maximum warming efficiency so we can ditch earth, go to Mars and siphon all the methane and natural gas from Titan to terraform Mars.

I don't really get the autoshow timing dig. Both the 2017 MKZ and Conti will probably go on sale at the same time. or within weeks. For us enthusiasts, most of us are already not in love with Lincoln... and won't be until very high standards are met. I mean sure the company can do even more... but like in the CT6 thread, throwing money at the problem rarely ever works right. So why should the brand give a single damn about what we think either? I was feeling with the spy shots that the car was going to look dopey. But now we've seen the real images, and when I see the car in person I hope to have my mind set - I was pleasantly surprised.

ANOTHER post I making a la OLDHURST441 Style. These are some thoughts I've had about what Cadillac is trying to achieve with the CT6. They're random ramblings, and many things I sometimes disagree as totally absurd... and then I flip-flop in my mind because then I keep finding things that Cadillac is doing that belie their true intentions. I agree to continue to disagree with myself. But I do agree I would never actually consider the German makes. I like Caddy, Lincoln/Buick and Lexus (if the LS is as nice as the LC 500, then put the LS before Lincoln/Buick) and Genesis in that order in the anything full-size premium or above sedan segment. The CT6 is a game-changer for Cadillac in some ways. In other ways it isn't, because it became yet another placeholder for a car that doesn't yet exist. Cadillac has yet to clear the business case for the next one up. Again, I love the car. But I feel Cadillac is giving mixed communications. I'm dead-set that the product is going to be spectacular for everything that is really on the bottom of the priority lists for flagship car buyers of the competition and in some respects it comes of as staunch hypocrisy against their supposed heritage - but it damn works for them somehow. The competition is trying to do cars that drive themselves. Full autonomy. Which means their clients are slowly becoming convinced that only lower class folk steer their vehicles. Again... random rambling, rabble rabble.... And really, if the "true" flagship is built on Omega...how is the CT6 going to sit next to it? I think the problem with another large sedan with a nicer interior...perhaps more concept car looks... is that they take up the really same segment space and are redundant, and a fancy headlights and leather job is much more profitable as a trim line than new model. Unless it's like a Mercedes-Maybach style thing. Which is again following a standard set by someone else. But if they incorporate a Mercedes-Maybach style enlargement and do a Lincoln Black Label style interior sprucing, then I see some mojo going right. But wouldn't that be the slightly longer wheelbase flagship that Cadillac would've wanted in the first place? But then the materials and supply chain dudes pointed out that some door handles cost $0.25 while the ones worthy of glory or infamy (like worthy of glory like the S-Class or infamy like the Conti) are like a $1.00 each...things like that... I will say the competition has like absurd price jumps. $100,000 up to like $250,000. Damn!!! And that's how get away with low volume minor body style work. But Cadillac going from $55,000 to $140,000 ish (pimped out CT6-V)...it's the same kind of doing the uber price spread. Okay, variants. Good point. It's meaningless. I feel....but I really don't want to accept but seriously where the hell is the great dare? Is it $12 billions dollars away from now? The great dare ought to be a great joke, because excellent product belies that fact that Johan lied when they said they wouldn't follow anyone, because it seems they are always following. Where do they decide that they've made a great dare? Because filling the long lack of a true American counter to full-size flagship luxury isn't much of a dare...it's something that has been poignantly missing at the cost of loss of prestige in an area where American sedans used to hole their own. Now my counter to that feeling is Throwing money at the problem (more leather, more wood trim, MOAR MOAR MOAR) is escalation of commitment of the wrong kind. so making a car the company can't sell is also flushing money down the toilet. And look at the Escalade. Cadillac certainly ain't following anyone there... and thus they control 75% of the full size luxury SUV market in America..... Or if the next flagship is going to be a BMW style rehash of the same platform to get a slightly different body, how the hell is that not copying BMW? I want to see Cadillac do things that put it on top, not on the same level as Mercedes or BMW. That is what I want to see. I want Cadillac in many respects cave in to what people want. The only different thing I feel Cadillac is doing with the CT6 is that they are trying for an absurd value for money kind of deal for the lower-end CT6 models and it kinda throws a wrench in the works for the other products. The V6 with AWD upgrade is downright cheap compared to on the CTS where it's a like $5000 dollar jump in price. WTF?!!! Why get an ATS sedan with the 2.0T when you can get a CT6 which is only 300 lbs heavier and is much bigger? That is the message Cadillac is sending. By moving so quickly, the brand is doing great things...but everything before is being left behind. Even I don't expect the true flagship in the same fashion to weight less than an ATS because hey the CT6 weighs less than the CTS, and another 3 years of development means more mixed materials. More good stuff means more less weight. Everything so far - the products we see for 2017 and 2018 are before his time. He's only had the influence on names and market strategy. I don't trust JD as much as Reuss and Welburn. FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE, I recommend if you do disagree, please do DOWNVOTE, DISCUSS, CRUSH ALMIGHTY..RIP a new one...and if you agree, don't UPVOTE...because I myself am back and forth.

It's marginal increases, that over time will become smaller and smaller. Just like how when tin lizzies went from 8 mpg to 9 mpg. That's a 12.5% increase in fuel economy. 1 mpg. These days pulling something like that off without any fancy enhancements is practically unheard of.

Ccap... seeing the new image in your sig made my imagination go wild. Why doesn't Ford try to get some lucrative military cost-plus contract to get the Raptor converted into a military vehicle. Kinda like a humvee, but not a direct replacement, but something nonetheless that retains the agility of the truck but with real damage from firearms and explosions resistance. And if Amurica ever had to fight on the ground against, I dunno... ISIS... Well it'd be the battle of who had the better American trucks actually meant for combat (interesting how the hell ISIS actually has Ford and GM trucks like superduties and silverados but anyways). And like the Patriotic ferver or like just the brawny brashness. Just a win-win-win scenario, I think.

I think the car will be an incredible achievement in technical aspects. But I think the car does not communicate its purpose so well. I just look at this as another luxury bruiser. But in reality it is a full sized luxury Corvette. So people may still try to gauge the conventional aspects of the car - such as interior quality and overall styling over the dynamic aspects. And really, the Buick Lacrosse, no, just even the Chevy Impala are excellent enough driving large sedans. Even ConsumerReport's resident Mercedes-lover, the guy with slickster hair, always wears a tasteful sweater and accent akined the driving dynamics of the Impala to (If I recall correctly) an current gen E-Class. That's good enough in my books, to say the least. So how much more are people really willing to pay for a better driving car... that is up in the question books. Because the traditional "driver's cars" have regressed in that respect to focus on overall luxury.

I have a cellphone from 6 years ago and it itself was hand-me-down. And I recently downgraded my cell plan. So I guess I am a saving connoisseur. Yeah, though I have yet to get much out of education just yet. The thing is it's all about the extra curriculars and stuffs and networking and the more I try those things the more bewildered I get. But then there's the people I flat out envy. Their tuition is taken care of, they live close to campus, and they have awesome executive positions in clubs and then they win, and they repeat the cycle. It's very clean and appears organized. And me - I hate to admit it, but yeah, I'm like a rusty Jeep Comanche in a sea of Denalis. But the scale factor is that I'm like the kiddie toy Jeep I used to have when I was helpless diaper dumpster, while the rest of these folks are the real life bruisers, so the rusty Comanche doesn't get noticed. It just gets steamrolled and owned...again and again....rinse and repeat.

So the G90 is double the car of the Q45. Actually, I think the well versed reader will love to crack this whip in front of the Infinit Q70. And in real dollars....you're probably paying less for more.... That's actually a really funny turn of events. Nice - done did good there SMK!

The Bolt will effectively over time get the cheap lease deals and the benefit of absurdly low fuel equivalent costs that the Cruze diesel might not ever get. But again... throwing the kitchen sink to get something to stick is rearing its head again. Honestly, I would not be going gaga over a new certified diesel. It just doesn't seem like the right configuration for the North American market. Despite what enthusiasts say about diesel, it is already in the process of being totally inconsequential, like gas, as electrics improve. Now the only thing holding electric vehicles back has been the historical choke price of electric vehicles for the masses and still just the lack of infrastructure ...which in price is coming down in orders of magnitude very, very quickly. For full substitution though, electric cars need some packaging constraints addressed. They can't all be dumpy dumplings forever, and they certainly need variety and spice. They need luxury models. They need a realistic model line. Because if the Tesla Model S is enough to crush the best performing sedans in its class, and win awards world over, then the Bolt will have the advantage of doing the same to every affordable $30-40k car in certain respects, for an exclusive head start that may be as little as zero days (depends on when the Leaf or Ioniq or the next few holdouts are marketed) or up to a full year give or take a quarter. But diesel cars shouldn't just be afraid of Bolt. Volt. Model 3. Nissan Leaf. Ford's supposed dedicated hybrid/electric car. Hyundai Ioniq. They're all ready for prime time very soon. And then the real shift begins or doesn't start at all. Will people go away from legacy nameplates? The fastest way to do the conversion would be to just keep the legacy nameplates and just ditch gas in own fell swoop. But that's also utterly stupid and a nonstarter for shareholders. But you'd get CAFE everywhere compliance in a span of the time it takes to redo a showroom. So within 5 to 8 years.

They should get rid of the rear seat, and then try to make it a discount 918. Problem solved, car will be accepted by the media, performance will be universally praised, and they can sell it to the same people who bought the 918 for only $600,000 less than the 918.

So, I shall be going to the Toronto auto-show.. Will finally use the new fangled Camuuuura... And should get awesome pics of the Camaruuuu

Meanwhile a brand no one has ever heard of gets to sneak in and use the G name in its 90, 80 and 70 products. Yeah, it's a heaping pile of confuzzler gas, made-for-you, and you and you and you and you and me and everyone else....

Please don't enjoy an arguably sexist joke (but it just had to come out) ^ Terrible choice of words at the ending. $6 dollars an hour for a Vette? Cheapest way to get laid this side of an escort. And what a mighty fine escort the Vette is.

Basically this is the best looking minivan w/out sliding doors aside from the new funky Pacifica or bat sh!t crazy twin-turbo Flex.

It's the lack of cheap lease deals really. Which can only come with greater scale. Which isn't happening. But the Cruze diesel will have its chance to get a good whack at the segment. It's like having two baseball batters and the first one tested positive for PEDs while the second one is coming into his prime right now, and the rest of his team is riding a hot streak. Chevy has some decent momentum, that it really hasn't had in a while. VW is out of the picture.

What's funny is that the midsize or affectionately called "full-size" rentals I frequently see on the lot are take your pick: Camries, Sonatas, Optima... and wait for it....building up the hype...wait for it...count your beans....wait for it...pluck those irritable boogers you get because of winter... wait for it... The odd Malibu Limited. Which means you've been Shaq'tin a Fooled! There ain't gonna be new-gen Malibu rental, not for a good while! Face it, you've been played!

I know I know I know I know..... Get a minivan. Downsize two vehicles into one. Reap the savings of operational costs spread over two vehicles into one. Live life happy knowing that you're not alone in the downsizing trend.

If I had to live in China, no question I would buy the Cadillac made in China. I'd be the only way. But what we know is that the hamtramck plant will also build the Bolt. The batteries are coming from LG Chem from South Korea anyways. But...different markets have different needs at some levels. I object to any Cadillac flagship iteration being assembled in China to sell in America not because the product won't be up to the quality. I fear that people looking at moroney - and Cadillac is a whole should not put any reasons for people to be belligerent towards the cars it makes, especially a flagship product (even as a placeholder), because Cadillac is really going for it. Or Cadillac can hedge their bets, and "fire" any customers that were looking to excuse themselves of excellent product because of bounded rationality and loyalty. The difference is, that we auto enthusiasts know the score. It makes utter absolute sense for Cadillac to source the car from where it'll sell most. Heck, Ford would've done that for the new Taurus, but probably didn't want the test the "Made in China" waters yet - or didn't want to be the first. Cadillac will have a hell of a time trying to get people to empathize with them if they nitpick against the place of origin of the CT6 plug-in. But because I do not see the value (the intangible ability to fully claim that the vehicle is fully American, the height of luxury built by Americans, for Americans) being delivered through this arguably wise financial decision... I have to say I would not buy the plug-in. I'd surely get the 3.0TT Platinum this, check box that, sign here please, Thank you Thursday... thank you.

Or how Ferrari was going to call their LaFerrari the F150? Internal product codes are what they are. Internal. They're not overly exposed in marketing communications. Either that or private settlement already took care of it.

Emissions do matter. But people shouldn't be trying to reduce it for economic reasons. The should give a damn about the planet and the garbage that is spewed out of tailpipes for every car that doesn't run on charged electrons. This is what is called a negative externality, and because companies are allowed to not internalize its costs is the reason why we have stupid economic incentives trying to make radically more fuel-efficient viable. They don't work. It's like paying people to not chuck garbage out the windows instead of trying to charge people who produce more garbage than others. Cars will never have the thermal efficiency to match the efficiency of even the current power grid and eletric drivetrains. So all these talks over companies trying to one up each other in MPG is a fool's gambit. They need to get off gas and diesel and natural gas and ethanol and bio-diesel entirely. But that won't happen, because of stupid economic incentives instead of economic disincentives. A revenue-neutral carbon tax would kill gas cars very quickly. EcoBoost or not, diesel or not, Ecotec, Skyactiv, Earth dreams or not... I don't know why people play up differences of mileage of one mpg or less when it just doesn't matter. In that line of logic, this Continental will do fully 100% of the comfort part of what the S-Class does (of many things) will cost for easily 50% or less of the price of the S550 model S-Class. Chalk up the rest as fuel money or the wage you'd pay a driver.

Talking about mpg when talking about luxury behemoth sedans. I guess this means you're going to get a Tesla to replace your E when the time comes?

No, what I'm saying is that I don't care what it's called, it looks great, and I'm one of the few who likes in silver. And it'd be an epic second-gen of the XTS instead trying to position it as an entirely new model (which it is of course). Images 3,4,5,6 are winners from GMA

Oh yeah, the 2GR-FSE. Good point. But a quick wiki leak (I'm always going to call looking something up on wikipedia a Wiki-leak from now on). Apparently the 2GR-FE was meant for transverse applications. So the 2GR-FSE isn't quite a plug n' play as as one could imagine (not that taking an engine for longitudinal and then tuning it for transverse is a trivial affair of any sort).