Intrepidation

Unless it's ripped in half it can't be too far gone.

Buy a Journey and you'll get what like 10 cupholders if that's your fetish.

I don't like the proportioned based on the profile teaser shot...the front overhang is massive. Hopefully it'll look better when unmasked.

That's ashame, I know how you feel. Why not find the car and buy it back? Yeah, BV would probably pay you to take his.

I don't even see how it looks much better. It's not like they're giant blobs of black plastic the size of someone's fist or something. I hate the wiper mounted ones...lots of issues with the design. The hoses get brittle and break with age The Plastic fasteners can break off the blade when clearing ice or snow off of the car Ditto for the hoses. They don't dispense the washer fluid as evenly or as well as the hood mounted ones

Sat in a black Journey 3.5 SXT today...looks very sharp.

El Camino light.

It looks like ass.

I got a chance to take a quick look at a black 3.5 SXT Journey today. The exterior is very, very sharp, best looking of the small/mid-side CUVs IMO...although the Edge is a close 2nd. Sat in the interior...plastics are better than the Avenger, probably not class leading but everything was well put together and the armrests were soft. I didn't get much of a chance to poke around, but it certainly seemed livable. It didn't have a 3rd row, so I don't know what it's like back there, but the 2nd row was surprisingly roomy. I had plenty of leg room and I'm 6'1". There's tons of storage areas and cupholders, which I really like. They just got it in Saturday, only oen too. Hopefully it's there when I go to have my oil changed this week so I can look at it more.

The older Chryslers had them mounted on the wipers and they suck. Mounting them on the hood is much, much better.

Not quite all of them, I think it was 1991 that the entire lineup had airbags.

I'll take one in black please.

HHR does even compete with this though. It's a size smaller, technically a wagon, and only seats five...probably not comfortably.

I agree that are idiot politicians have screwed this country over for pointless foreign policies and personal agendas, then believe that the economy is great and the country is doing fine. It;s not, anyone with half a brain can see it. Nevertheless, I won't let some f@#ktard's mistakes ruin my desire to purchase something I like because it doesn't come from here. Not like it's any real concern, most of the cars I want are made buy Detroit, but someday down teh road if I have the money you can bet your ass I'd love to have GTR sitting in my garage next to my Challenger and Camaro.

$20k for a base model indeed, bu the base model comes with good amount of standard equipment. Basically if you check off the flexible seating package, it's enough for most people who want a people with decent features mover but are on a budget. It only adds $1,175 to the bottom line.

Good review, all of the reviews have been pretty good so far actually.

Buy whatever you like just don't be base your decision on undeserved/blind bias. That's how I look at it.

A black Nissan Rogue a Crystal Red Tintcoat Cadillac CTS

Clearly.

Take a shot of Wasabi

Nice rides, welcome to C&G!

So yesterday Sixty8 and I took his Banana boat on a trip to the toy store...er...junkyard. He was in search of parts for it and I was in search of a headlight for the T&C...plus any other goodies that caught my eye for one of the other cars. We spend from 11 until 1 or so there, he had better luck than I though. They didn't have a single first gen Caravan. Although We did see a few interesting things there. There was a triple burgundy Cadillac 1984 Fleetwood Brougham (I think that's what it was) that was in sitting amidst the rows of other Caddies and Buicks stacked on top of each other with nothing on it (yet) The vinyl top was gone and so was the grill but the rest of the body was in great shape. Paint was still very good, there was no rust where the top had been, no frame or body rut that we could see, the engine had no leaking fluids that we could see and it was all there. The interior was all there save a few trim pieces too. But the real kicker was that the car started right up and ran very nicely. It's not like when you come across a car that starts but sounds ready to die, it ran very well. The writing on the window said the engine and transmission were good. It was such a shame that someone would junk a perfectly good car. After he got his parts and we weren't able to find any vans, I grabbed a few things for the Prizm (climate control knobs, armrest, a coin holder) and then we grabbed a bite to eat. By then he had to head back home but suggested I try another junkyard not far from us. So I took my Intrepid there and sure enough located a downer Caravan...the only one there. Unfortunately they were closing soon so I only had time to grab a center console bezel to replace the one that was broken when the van was broken into. I pay for it and head to my car, and this is where it gets interesting (and the main point of this thread). I pop the trunk of my car and put my tools and the part in the car. There's a guy standing next to a black early `92 or so Camry. As I close my trunk the following conversation begins: Him: Those Integras are pretty unreliable. Me: It's not an Integra, it's an Intrepid Him: Oh, well they're pretty much the same Dodge anyway Me: No, Integras were mad e by Honda Him: Oh, well anyway you should get rid of that thing as soon as possible because they are full of problems Me: No way, I love my car and it's been problem free since I bought it. Him: You know my car is probably worth more than used. It's a worth $5,500 Me: (thinking to myself, I highly doubt that, and looking it up later the average one is worth only 2,200) That would have to be for a mint, low mileage example...I'd never pay that kind of money for one of those. Him: Oh, well...I only paid $800 for mine, I got it at an auction. Me: That's were my car came from, I paid $2,100 for it. Him: You know Mercury Mystiques? Me: Yeah Him: They're kind of like your car, I knew this lady who had one and the timing chain broke and damaged a pulley thing that ruined her engine. Me: It was probably an interference engine. My car uses timing changes, so unlike the timing belts in your Camry and other Hondas and Toyotas which have to be replaced every 50,000 miles and cost $500 - $1000 each time, timing chains only need to be replaced every 150,000-200,000 miles. Him: Oh...well Toyotas and Hondas go for a long time, this has 220,000 miles on it. Me: (I've gotten in my car by now and started the engine up with the door open) My car has 190,679 original miles on it, which includes the engine and transmission. I know someone with a 1990 Suburban that has 230,000 original miles on it. I also have a Dodge Shadow with 213,000 miles on it. It'll probably rust away before it stops running. Him: (changing subject). ...yeah rust is bad here with all of the snow and salt and stuff. Me: Yeah, it's important to keep your car clean to keep rust from spreading Him: Yeah that's what I do...Anyway...I still think Toyotas and Hondas are more reliable Me: I haven't had a single problem with my cars ince I've owned it besides a gasket to the fuel pump. Meanwhile, the Toyota I have at home has had the transmission replaced because it lost 3rd and 4th gear, the master and slave cylinders had to be replaced, the timing belt had to be replaced, and I've had to replace half of the interior because so many stupid parts have broken on it. Him: (shocked) Really? Me: Yeah, I've had to replace the rear view mirror because the plastic internals broke, the window regulator... Him: I had to replace mine too, cost me $40 and I had to drill holes to get it out (it must have been welded) Me: Luckily mine was bolted on so it only too an hour to replace after I bought one for $20. Anyway, I've also had to replace the inside driver's door handle once, the outside twice, and the rear exterior handle once. Their made out of such cheap, $h!ty plastic. I see so many Toyotas with broken door handles (to my delight as I'm saying this I notice his driver's door handle is broken)...just like yours! Him: Oh, well, uh...it was my fault...I pull the handle kind of hard. Your handles are made out of plastic too... Me: Yes but mine have ever broken, nor and of my Chryslers for that matter. Him: (he's run out of ammo at this point). Well, I've got to get going. Nice talking to you though. Have a nice day. Me: You too. (I close the door and drive away with a smile on my face). That was the first encounter like that I've had with a random person.