A Horse With No Name

Just what we need...this thing to get bogged down in court where no one wins. Chris

+1 The Enclave seems to appeal to a pretty wide variety of people around here. Chris

The question is not weather Pontiac was making money but if it could make money building unique cars. I think there is a market for unique GM produced cars, and that they have the ability to produce and market unique cars. They have shown this over a period of several decades. But SAmadei your right about the Morons in GM management. Chris

Ah, yes, PCS your indeed my savior my friend. I'll take a blue 68 firebird 400 ragtop, blue interior, blue top, power steering, with a 4 speed please. The Early Firebird has got to be one of the neatest and most under rated GM cars. My apologies to Camino and his Firehawks and the GTO guys and Balthazar with his full size stuff.... I want a 67-68 Firebird, Dammit man.... Chris

Pennsylvania Turnpike Which reminds me, we still need a C and G get togethr. Chris

Hey von...just send one of those first gen Mustang Ragtops down to Ohio, Okay? Chris

Agreed to a point, I wouldn't say that they have nothing (look at the heritage of the Z car for example). However, compared to GM, Ford and Chryco... The Volt, Marketed right, presented right, will do well I think. GM builds great vehicles that are unique and focused on a particular market. Let's hope they do well when they break into this market.

Enclave is a nice product. Chris

Your forgetting the MINI, which also should carry a premium, as well as the small Audi's, the GTI, The Volvo C-30, ETC. I think we will see more of a market for small cars here as the price of fuel goes through the roof,which it will. The exchange rate really killed GM on this one, your right, and you saw my previous comments on the dark interior. I hope you do get an Astra, if you like the way that thing corners and liked the Contour SVT...then you know what turns my crank in a car. Cobalt SS motor W/ a lighter interior...now that would be a car. Chris

I think he just hopes someone takes a run at saving Pontiac. Chris

Atlantic Ocean

I think I see a Camaro in your future. And yes, GM nailed it on this one. Like I said, when GM gets it right... Chris

Recovery

We've lost a lot of interesting vets. I used to live in a very diverse section of Chicago. Lot of poorer Jewish people lived there, and several Holocost survivors. We forget exactly what a big deal WWII was. Chris

ST. LOUIS, the city with the Arch

The worst thing about the Astra was the dark interior. We drove one, almost bought it, but my wife felt like she was in a cave when she drove it. Hopefully, the car has a premium feel when it gets here. Again, it may be a very good time to be a small car fan. If Fiat gets some Alfa based cars here, ford does a good job with the new Euro Focus, and the new Astra works out things may be very good indeed. Chris

Oh, and for the word... Paris, the City of light... Chris

No it's not. The religious right reminds us every day just exactly how stupid people can be.

Not sure that I agree with you here.... IIRC wasn't this the best selling car in Europe?

I think they will "show you something" but that something isn't what your going to want to see. let me be very honest with you...I could see you buying a 98-02 Ls1 F-Bird, building a 1Le clone out of it, and enjoying it. Because GM ain't gonna be building your kinda car. At least I don't think so. What they will be showing you is a series of cars like the Volt that may or may not do well and may or may not save GM. But if you were to go look behind the closed doors at GM right now, that is EXACTLY what you would see on the design boards. I'll bet we have the Stang, Challenger, and Camaro around for 5 years tops. (remember how quickly people tired of them, sales wise, the first time they were out?)(remember also the cluster of the 73 and 79 oil crises?) GM, I will predict, will eventually be to us like the girls we dated in high school. A lot of fun, great memories, but a part of our past that ain't coming back in a million years. Chris

I would like to see GM build a series of small, nimble, RWD cars. Still wonder what a small, RWD Pontiac would have been like. Chris

Beautiful and Sunny here in Columbus, Ohio. Chris

Your right. Chris

Yes, they are. Would be nice to have them leave it open just a touch longer, as they could build more Solstice Targas. Chris

I like it also. The Chevrolet Monza of the 70's was not a terrible car for its era, either. But I do like Monza. Chris