Camino LS6

Not big on the 50's, and hate the 80's, the rest of the decades have good things to offer. But I know I've posted on this before...

LA: The XJS is a definte winner in this category! They are fine looking cars and can be had for a song - just be prepared to suffer the upkeep nightmare (worth it in my book). 2005 'Nox: I actually owned an '82 Toronado once upon a time.

The big Caddy (Voyage?) concept was in that film too.

QUOTE(toesuf94 @ Aug 7 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]417871[/snapback]Here are some 'memories' currently for sale on fleebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks...6.c0.m245.l1318 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks...6.c0.m245.l1318 Hilarious! These can't even meet scrap value on Ebay!

There is no one reason, although most of the big ones have been named in this thread already. But let's not forget the UAW contracts that hamstrung the futures of these companies - a severe lack of forward thinking allowed that particular aspect to become near-terminal.

Damn, Z. I'm really sorry to hear this, and I've been there not so long ago. The day that Lasher made that last ride to the vet was one of the toughest I've ever had. I almost made it through without losing it, until I had to ask them to do the deed - that was just one notch more than I could take. Your approach is the right one - and you may be surprised at how well it works. After the damage from the Lyme disease was quantified, Lasher was given about 6 weeks - but he lasted another year (much of which had a pretty good quality of life). So, don't give up just yet.

I never get tired of looking at that car.

No, it is still active. The links work for me, so I don't know why you can't get to it.

Works for me. Try this link to see if you can get to it directly : http://www.myproductadvisor.com/mpa/auto/r...4c970133f1a45bf

Saw the Caprice version yesterday. It was obviously just rescued from being parked for a long time. The car had brand new tires and had just been washed - but you could see the very thick coating of dirt here and there where they missed with the sponge. You know, that crud that collects on a disused car under a tarp or a tree for a long time. Did my heart good to see it back on the road.

Follow the directions in the original post, YJ. Trust me it's there.

Wish I could help you out, but circumstances wouldn't allow. Let me know when you plan to arrive though, I'm close to Philly.

Hmm, that shouldn't have happened. Did you get to the specific Camaro survey? You have to complete the first part (the general stuff) and then click on the Recommended button to go to the Camaro specific survey.

Take a look at this thread: http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...showtopic=24899 It's related to this discussion.

A way to back the government off of the auto industry must be found. Enough is enough. Nice examples there, Mouse.

That was a nice way to make some preferences known. :AH-HA_wink: Not a bad survey.

Here, here!

Good afternoon, Camaro Comrades and Firebird Friends! (and please feel free to share the following with your clubs and Camaro/Firebird friends!) When looking at the new Camaro -- are you interested in the V6 or V8 engine? Do you seek the direct input of a manual transmission, or are you more comfortable with an automatic transmission? Will the Camaro be the car you drive every day, or just on weekends? When do you plan to purchase your new Camaro? Now that the wraps have been taken off the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro, we would like your feedback on what features are important to you. By clicking on the link below, you will be sent to a third party site -- MyProductAdvisor.com -- where your answers to various questions are collected and analyzed. Note - you must access the site by this specific url. http://www.myproductadvisor.com/mpa/auto/inputSummary.do The process is pretty easy, but a little time consuming (plan to spend about 20 minutes answering questions). The site is split into a number of sections from "Auto Usage" to "Recommendations". These sections are dedicated to general automotive consumer research -- not just sport cars like Camaro but other cars and trucks (for example you’ll be asked questions on truck bed length, four cylinder engines, turning radius, etc.). We suggest you answer the questions on the site as if your mind is set on the Camaro (or like vehicle). Please start the survey by clicking and answering a question on "Auto Usage." You have the option of answering all the applicable questions in each section (highly recommended), or just answering one question in "Auto Usage", and moving directly to "Recommendation" button on the right corner. In this survey, the "Recommendation" button will not provide an automotive recommendation, but will start the second part of the survey which is dedicated just to Camaro. Once the "Recommendation" button is clicked, a picture of the 2010 Camaro will appear inviting you to link into the Camaro survey. The questions will include option descriptions and price ranges; but please note, these prices are being provided to determine demand, and do not necessarily reflect final Camaro pricing or packaging. Your answers will go a long way in helping Chevrolet bring the 2010 Camaro to market in the first quarter of 2009. Thank you for your time in participating in this research event. The Camaro Launch Team

Well, I guess we can agree to disagree. But I don't see anyone preserving an old Camry as their pride and joy - ever. Back when people considered the now classic cars just disposable things were a bit different. Just about everything was RWD and most offered a V8, they also rusted much faster and the "new" cars of the day offered similar (if not better) performance and style. Not so much these days. The cars that have survived are so desireable now that even the unloved 4-doors are becoming expensive. That just won't happen with the FWD stuff (except for a very few). There just isn't a '57 Chevy, or a GTO, or a Hemicuda in that category to drive the interest. People save Coronets because there were Chargers, and base Mustangs because there were 428 Cobra Jets, and Chevelle wagons because there was an LS6 SS. Except for cars like the WRX and the Mini, and maybe the PT and the HHR, there aren't many "aspirational" versions of these cars to drive the hobby. At any rate, I'll try to make a peace offering in this thread by nominating a few things that I think really are worth saving from more recent times as I think of them. The FWD short list: Mini HHR WRX (AWD) PT (especially the vert) Mitsubishi 3000 GT (Especially the AWD) These are cars with something unique to offer, and for that reason I expect some to be lovingly preserved as the years go by.

That might help, but here is the problem with regs: they are rarely re-evaluated or updated. This creates unintended consequences down the road. I'm all for a freeze on the existing regs and an honest re-evaluation of all of them which tosses the overbearing and un-needed and adds new ones only after an exhaustive and comprehensive evaluation of the actual value and costs involved. Right now we need to free the hand of the industry to help itself.

We've already ordered that crow for your lunch on reveal day, GXT. This car will happen, have no doubt. And it will change things for GM in a large way.

I don't think I could possibly agree more. Great post!

I can think of a few that could disappear without any tears. To use your example, a Celebrity is entirely disposable once it can't be crutched along as basic transportation, ditto Camry and the like. Making some transportation appliance roadworthy so you have wheels is one thing, but modifying or restoring such a car seems completely pointless to me. I don't include the Fiero or the Porsches in this category though. The Granada ranks above a Celebrity, but not by much. I could see saving an old Pacer for laughs, or something cool like a Triumph Spitfire or a Vista Cruiser, or an old Galaxie 500, or a 70's Caddy , or even a rear drive Celica, but the FWD appliances aren't ever going to be worth the effort. I wouldn't miss any K-car convertible or that "limo" thing they built back then for two examples. I'd also happily crush the last Chrysler TC "by Maserati" myself.

California's power to regulate auto emission standards needs to be revoked - permanently. In fact, the auto industry is way overdue for a break from regulation. The market demands excellence in all areas to such a degree that government regulation at the level it now exists is a textbook case of overkill. If we want innovation in our cars, the chains need to come off.

To be honest, most of the cars in this thread are just raw material for recycling in my eyes - I wouldn't even consider expending any effort on them.