Robert Hall

That's a bit dramatic, isn't it? Not really 'lying', it's more like a company announces a product, then cancels said product before production. That's a business reacting to economic conditions and market realities.

An El Camino like pickup based off of the Magnum would have been an easy thing for Chrysler to have done when the Magnum was in production, had they thought there would have been a sufficient market for such a thing.

We probably need to standardize a naming scheme for these so they are more searchable...a thread title pattern like 'CAR SPOTTING:MONTH:OPTIONAL WITTY NAME' would work well. For some reason, I can never find the car spotting thread when I see something interesting that I want to post about.

Or start building a Camry collection...one of each generation (there are only 5, going back to the '80s) and each bodystyle.. that would be cool.

I'd like to see Prelude and CRX revivals... the last Prelude was a pretty sweet car, IMHO.

Yeah...Saturn is a big question mark now...I'm wondering where they will end up, they sort of overlap with Chevy, Buick, Pontiac and GMC now...where will they be in 5 years?

The idea of large V8 RWD Acuras never made much sense anyway...it's not in their DNA. Well-crafted small to midsize FWD models w/ 4 cyls and V6s are what Honda/Acura are all about at the core of the brands.

Well, the cheap and quick approach would be a Cruze with a Buick grille and badging...

RC Cola (haven't had one of those in years)

Nothing non-conformist about that....the conformist masses are content with their FWD Japanese generics....

It's odd they gave both vehicles the same name, since they really are two different cars with different markets, different engine choices, different designs. It seems like Hyundai set out to create a Genesis brand with a luxury sedan and a sporty coupe (with different names), but that their plans changed and the brand name became the model name.

If Pontiac gets cut to 3 vehicles I'm going to assume the worst--i.e. the G3, G5, and Vibe. Buick will have the larger FWD models.

That's a cool museum... I've been there once, about 15 years ago. My sister is working at Wright-Patt these days...

I like CPK...there is one at the mall 5 min from my house, right near the Borders...I go over there pretty often. I like the frozen CPK pizzas also. For delivery, I like Papa John's thin crust, Western Pizza (Canadian chain that has it's only US branch in Phoenix, I think), and a good local chain--Streets of New York. For a slice at lunch downtown during the work week, I like ZPizza, which is a Cali chain, I think. I have a couple good local pizza/pasta places close to home that I go to occasionally.

I'm working on a reboot for myself for 2009...Phoenix isn't the place to be. Though I will stay in software contracting..it's one of the few bright spots in the job market.

I couldn't find an existing Jan car spotter thread (we really need a single, continuing thread for this topic, like the Word Association one, I think). This morning on the commute down town, sitting at a light at an intersection of two 6 lane streets, I saw a dark green Bullitt Mustang on one side, and a black Challenger SRT8 and white G8 GT opposite...they really stood out, what a great design contrast with the bland, soulless FWD generica and SUVs that clog the streets....

I assume the Chinese Regal (Insignia) will be the next US Buick after the '10 LaCrosse/Invicta/whatever. There was a thread on this recently.

Yeah, a diesel would be great. Besides Jeeps and Land Rover Defenders, Burbans are probably my favorite SUVs--they are sort of in a class by themselves. One of the coolest ones I know of is owned by a buddy of mine in Colorado Springs--bright red '89 barn door 4x4 with a diesel, 35 inch Monster Mudder tires, snorkel, tube bumpers, winches front and rear, roof rack w/ jerry cans and spare tires...takes it off roading all over the Southwest.

I suppose it is something you could get used to... I've driven Uhaul trucks with no rear visibility other than the mirrors, and those aren't that bad once you get used to it..

Well, if they narrow the brand down to G3, G5 and Vibe, maybe they can make a G3 ST... maybe FWD car-based subcompact pickups will be a growth market.

Overlay the current sig image with a red slash and add 'Dissapointment comes to those who wait'.

I'm sure Honda would sell him a nice new Ridgeline, or Toyota a Tundra..

I think the Viper wierdness is because there was no 2007 model--went from '06 to '08. Their midsize rental cars are doing pretty awful with those drops, though. I hope Chrysler can make it, the new Ram looks very promising, and I'm looking forward to the next 300 and Charger and the next Grand Cherokee...

Ok, maybe call it Avalanche instead..

That's cool..as are the Solstice victories. GM should advertise these wins.