Robert Hall

Funny thing I've always liked the 3rd gen Firebirds and Camaro, yet the 4th gen styling has zero appeal to me...

Well, the Firebird is very low in the front end (lower than most of today's cars), not remotely a brick... low nose, sloping hood and fenders, windshield laid back, very sleek wedge shape.....relatively wide and long, and with a sleek rear window, it would stable at speed, I would think..

Yes...IIRC, they were the or one of the most aerodynamic cars on the market at the time.

Ya... in the same category, waking up to the alarm clock on a day when you didn't want the alarm clock to go off...sometimes, I turn it on out of habit, and having it go off at 5:30am on a Saturday is not fun..

And Festivus... I like Festivus... used to have a get together w/ friends, drink a lot, toss a Christmas tree off a 2nd floor balcony. As to the holidays in general, it's a lot of 'meh' for me... Not big on them, but I do like taking the week off between Xmas and New Years every year... not looking forward to the airports, though...flying to Ohio tomorrow to see family, then back to Phoenix Monday then to Denver next Wednesday (going to go hang out w/ friends in the Mile High City for New Years eve).

Cool. This reminds me of a Car & Driver project car from the '80s..they modified a Trans Am to go over 200 at Bonneville.

Cool...the 500SEL aka 'Big Dog' turned 177,000 last week.

I kind of figured that was the plan.... LaCrosse replaces Lucerne, Regal replaces W-LaCrosse. The era of the big car GM is dead (though their last real big cars were in '96).

No big deal, some people like spicy, some don't.... I've always been pretty adventurous with dining (at least once i got out away my Mom's hearty meat-and-potatoes Midwestern cooking). There is a lot of stuff I won't touch, though, like eggplant, organs (no menudo, breadfruit, etc)...can't really take anything with beans (I esp. don't like the brown mud bean glop in a lot of Mexican/SW dishes).

+1. The more immodium I have to take before and after, the more I enjoy it... I've love spicy Indian curries, Thai curries, etc...

What will be, will be

Don't see many too many finished modded Civics around here...though I see lots of battered old '90s Civics primered w/ crappy body kits stuck on and big wings. The kiddies don't seem to be modding old Corollas or Camrys, seems to be mostly a Honda thing in Phoenix.

Here's a site w/ pics of the '63 DeVille Park Avenue: 63 Park Avenue

I seem to recall reading about that somewhere years ago..a google turned a bit more info (not sure if it's accurate): Cadillac thought that people who lived in the city would want a smaller Cadillac for parking. The Park Avenue was outsold by the hardtop Sedan DeVille by a wide margin. I guess the buyers wanted the longest car they could afford in the early 60's. ..have seen them with buckets in the front, as well as a bench. '61 the car was a Series 62 six-window model (no deVille version), and was called the Short-Deck Sixty Two Sedan. In '62 the car was referred to as the Town Sedan, but was a four-window model. The deVille version was called the Park Avenue Sedan deVille. In '63 there was a deVille version only, and it was once again called the Park Avenue Sedan deVille. I'd never heard of a Cadillac Park Avenue before.

Yeah, kind of something like Neil Young's electric Contintental.

I'm sure with a little effort the other car can be made flashier--maybe chrome spinner hubcaps, a big rear wing, bodykit... I don't think I've seen one customized (besides the convertible on Autolog a while back).

There is kind of a neat 'past in the foreground, future in the background' contrast to yer sig...

The next Nox looks pretty good... I like how the interior has styling cues shared with the Malibu, Traverse, even the Camaro (the guages remind of the Camaro).... I like the forward-leaning C-pillar and the big wheel arches.

I used to work with a guy that had both a diesel Excursion and a diesel F350 Crew Cab longbed (alternated driving them w/ his wife).. I remember he had trouble navigating the parking garage at work because of their size. The Excursion was fun to go out to lunch in, could cram almost the whole team in it. Back in the summer when gas prices were over $4 dollars a gallon, the New York Times ran an article featuring him and his family, spotlighting the pain of the high gas prices on families that live in distant exurbs and commute to the city.

Picture taken this evening, myself and Ginger in her 'Kenny' parka:

I carry one of those Naglene bottles around all the time...living in a very dry place, I drink a lot of water...cheaper than carrying a bottled water all the time.

We went out to a very cool trendoid bistro for dinner and I slammed 3 coconut mojitos...good think I wasn't drving Rob druk

+1 one the walking...my folks' farm in eastern Ohio has a lane that's about 9/10s of a mile, lined with linden trees on both sides and a creek parallel to the lane..the house, guest house, barn, garages, etc are up in the bowl of a heavily wooded valley, with a couple of 6-10 acre farm ponds nearby.. Very quiet there. As a kid, I used to walk down the lane to get the mail, catch the school bus, etc. I loved walking it fall afternoons after school when the leaves were down the lane.. Here in Phoenix, besides swimming in the pool, I've been getting exercise by walking up and down the streets in my neighborhood... a 6'0", 225 lb guy walking a 3lb Yorkie on a leash...

I love swimming..one of the nice things about living in Arizona with a swimming pool in the back yard, and one thing that makes the summer heat tolerable. I tried to get in every day between May and the end of September. In Colorado, my condo complex has a pool, but it's not heated so I couldn't use it in the winter... I used to ride my mountain bike quite a bit, that is pretty good exercise, but I lost interest.

Well, this is C&G, so the threads meander all over the place... Speaking of second wives, a friend of mine in Denver, a good Canadian guy from Regina, married a 40-something blonde stock broker from LA who is a retired semi-pro beach volleyball player...she has a wierd perma-tan and looks orange..very fit, but her face is like leather..too much sunshine. They had a hard time w/ envitro, etc to have their twins a couple years ago. The car is a '77 Can Am, they had the 400 and some had the 403. I remember those fondly from childhood, there was one that sat for a while on the lot at the Pontiac dealer in my neighborhood (Montgomery Pontiac, Steubenville, Ohio). Pontiac Can Am