Robert Hall

Definitely...I couldn't imagine living like some of the fat f*cks I see out there...I've maintained my weight, mildly pudgy, but I don't want to get any bigger.

I've had free gym memberships (Ballys and then Golds) with companies I've worked at previously, but never really got into a pattern of going often... I'm not much a gym person myself, prefer to walk around the neighborhood and walk around downtown...not enough exercise, but some. I've worked w/ people before that seem fanatical about training all the time--running every morning before work, running marathons on the weekend, biking every weekend, etc... maybe I'm lazy, but I just can't get interested in that..I'll admit I'm not athletic in the least, nor am a video gamer.

Interesting..it was a product of its times...cool space age cold war design..

I'd rank 'em 1 Lincoln 2 Cadillac 3 Imperial To me, the '61 Imperial looks too '50s with the fins and the free standing headlights are over the top in wierd, IMHO. Interesting nonetheless, though. But I just love the clean, crisp design of the Lincoln..very understated with minimal brightwork, a break from the '50s and the beginning of an uniquely '60s design trend...the Caddy is very crisp and angular, also an improvement over the '50s looking '60, IMHO. Styling was pretty diverse back then--no one would ever confuse an Imperial for a Cadillac or a Lincoln or vice versa...

DWI

You really don't get sarcasm, do you? I know you aren't Sixty Eight (he'd want the '59 styling w/ ht and fins). I was being sarcastic to highlight your typical posting tone--your posts frequently come off like a grumpy old man who's always blathering about things were better 50 years ago or whatever. Lighten up.

You and Balthy missed the point competely. I never said anything about the Genesis styling.... was talking about the content for the price point...the Genesis has it all over the dated Lucerne.

I saw Rick & Fritz on CSPAN this afternoon... was interesting, they talked about the timeline over the last couple of days when talked w/ the White House.

Actually, Cadillac has nothing in it's line currently that matches the Genesis V8 on spec at that price point. Fact. Read over the Genesis specifications. It's dull looking, but it's very modern in content.

Whatever....I'm afraid a Buick won't be a hardtop with tailfins and be 225 inches long again. So what's you bright idea about what a future Buick top of the line model should be?

triage

And you think the Lucerne with it's FWD and dated transmission is a better Buick? The Genesis is everything that would make a great top of the line Buick..the styling needs a bit of work, but you can't argue with the specification.

Yes, but unfortunately, the Lucerne is a FWD car w/ a 4spd transmission. Not quite up to the Genesis specs. I'd love to see a next-gen Lucerne of that level of specification (i.e. like the China-market Park Avenue), but I don't think it's going to happen.

I suspect the Azera will stay around... by analogy, the Sonata is their Malibu, the Azera their LaCrosse, and the Genesis is the car Buick doesn't have but wishes it had..

Well, there are non-profits. I'm just very cynical about insurance companies and health care in the US...there is a lot of corruption out there.

Maybe they can bring a version of the Aveo 3dr sold in other markets and sell it as the G3 GTO!

Of course not...the insurance companies, healthcare companies, etc only exist to maximize profit. They couldn't care less for human beings.

Ooooh...I bet he saw the secret Aveo SS and G3 GXP...

Good news for Toyota-- Seattle Times article

I remember when I bought my Jeep back in 2000, Colorado Springs (city of 400k, metro area of about 550k) had 3 Jeep dealers, of which 2 were less than a mile apart--one a Chrysler/Plymouth/Jeep and the other standalone Jeep dealer, IIRC.

Could be...I don't think anything has been announced like that for NA. Though I would assume China will have one.

No, it's a bargain. But the 550i is not the CTS-v's competition. The M3, S4, C63 AMG are. Apples to oranges. Anyway, back to the original thread about Buicks. So in 3-4 years, Buick will have a 3 model line---Regal, LaCrosse, Enclave?

I'm sure there are options available on the 5-series that aren't available on the CTS..some one pointed out some features here months ago. It's an old argument that's been beat to death for years. The bottom line, the CTS may be 5 series sized, but it's the entry level model. Thus, it is naturally compared with the 3-series, G35, C-class, etc that are in it's price range. If Cadillac had a compact RWD entry level model, then the CTS could be a 5-series competitor. That's the reality.

Yes, that's what I meant. the V8 is only in the CTS-v with the sporty bodywork and limited interior color schemes. It would be nice to see a V8 (maybe 350 hp) in the regular CTS.

Invalid comparison. The ES platform shares with the Camry--it's as the LaCrosse is to the Impala. Not a rebadge. The Cimmaron is undefendable--it was a rebadge of the Cavalier.