Drew Dowdell

I actually like the nose of the current one. It's the Stratus butt I object to.

I'm all for a SIXTEEN. I'd buy one! But that doesn't mean the UV8 can't or shouldn't power a FWD Lucerne or DTS. Not everyone buys Camry's. Mom was very happy with the 160,000 miles her '94 Bonneville SSEI gave her and she is very happy with her '03 Aurora. ... but the woman wants a FWD Luxury car.... I'd like her to stay with the General, but the DTS and Lucerne aren't really her type. She'll probably end up in a Zephyr ones she's done with the Aurora. Keep in mind that some people have the following criteria: 1. Has to have some class 2. Has to have some balls 3. Has to be FWD or AWD for the snow

Oh.... what happens if I get a zero then?

Well, at one time, we had everything but the Toronado and Eldorado with RWD.

Here is where you are wrong. Non-enthusiasts DO care which wheels are powered. Non-enthusiasts want FWD or AWD... especially if they live in Boston. Now we could have a debate till next tuesdays over which is more stable in snow, but that doesn't change the opinion of the people actually buying the cars. And yes people DID buy Auroras because they were FWD. My mother wasn't interested in the CTS once she found out it was RWD <I tried to keep it from her>, so she got an Aurora instead. She was really into the CTS for it's looks, but wouldn't own RWD. The 300C isn't selling because it's RWD, it's selling because of it's looks. It would still sell if it were FWD. People who covet RWD won't be interested in DTS....and that's fine. There are a number of other excellent RWD alternatives at the General to choose from. Just because YOU covet RWD, doesn't mean we ALL have to... and it doesn't mean that we shouldn't have the choice of FWD V8s if we want one. You need to get some pills....

Chrysler

Perhaps you should drive with your hands on the wheel next time.

68, could you be a little less hardline about this? The Aurora, Impala SS, Lucerne CXS and DTS are all fine cars with V8s and FWD. Not everyone has to like what you like. If there were room in my garage, I'd love a new DTS... regarless of the drive wheels. If I want a sporty car to throw around on the weekends, that is what I have the CTS for. Not every car has to be the same layout to be a good car. Please... the FWD bashing is getting a little tiring.

The Lincoln looks like a Remington Shaver.

I've had XM for two years and love it. I don't even carry CDs in my car anymore.

better mileage is good.

it has the same output per liter as the old M3 engine, yet requires two turbos to do it.... how is this an improvement?

I think an H4 that competes with the Wrangler would be awsome!

Agreed, final model year Cateras were actually fairly good in the reliability department. They're not speed demons, nor are they great on gas, but they are solid and handle very well.

I really don't think their current business model will work in the longrun. $30 for an XM receiver and $12.00 a month. It's GOT to cost them more then $30 for an XM roady or whatever. They don't require contracts like the Cell companies do and there is no way to go "over" on your minute, text message, or any other source of revenue then a few premium channels. But who really wants audio Playboy anyway?

Two words: Town Car

I took a ~1993 Grand Am Quad4 last night with the CTS.

What are you counting as a coupe? I count 5. Mustang Stratus Sebring Monte Carlo Grand Am/G6 and depending on what year it was, Cougar, Grand Prix and Alero

Where does the money that many of us donated to the site go?

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Because given the same tuning as the CTSv, the M3 should always out handle the CTSv simply because of is smaller size and weight. Meaning if they always insist on stackin the V against the M3.... it will always lose.

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